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traveller76

traveller76

Both sides may leave Afghanistan as a buffer state. The Comintern may have Kabul but the rest may be left as Autonomous. The Alliance might look the other way for bandits/smugglers but unless the Reds start rolling divisions in or building major infrastructure I cannot see the Alliance getting involved. There are other borders and problems to work on.
 
The_Red_Star_Rising

The_Red_Star_Rising

traveller76 said:
Both sides may leave Afghanistan as a buffer state. The Comintern may have Kabul but the rest may be left as Autonomous. The Alliance might look the other way for bandits/smugglers but unless the Reds start rolling divisions in or building major infrastructure I cannot see the Alliance getting involved. There are other borders and problems to work on.
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My idea is that the Comintern gets dragged into a prolonged war in Afghanistan to try and keep the Kabul government in power, but find that Afghanistan is an awful sand pit and they leave years later only to watch the state they tried to set up be devoured by the likes of Pashtun nationalists, tribalists, and religious radicals. The allies, eager to give the Comintern their own Congo, Brush, and Indochina wars, would probably be only too happy to funnel supplies into any quagmires the Comintern gets involved in.
 
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Bulldoggus said:
Not my sweet boi Recep!
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Perhaps TTL Recep and Putin won't do things to make them deserve to end up like OTL Mussolini. Justly executed by their own people with their mangled corpses dangling in front of cheering crowds. Perhaps unlikely to happen in the remainder of the decade, but a young man can dream.
 
Redshank Galloglass

Redshank Galloglass

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Bulldoggus said:
Iran was our closest ally in the region for 25 years and we didn't know jack shit about it. My bet is the only nation that will understand Afghanistan is India, and they'll be very stingy with information.
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We didn't know jack shit about them because we didn't attempt to learn. Since the Communists are all about increasing the world's living standards, it would make sense that they would learn more about their allies to ease the process.

The only reason the Comintern would lose in Afghanistan is because the majority of the populace literally live like hermits and are completely opposed to any ideology that wasn't created in the first millennium.

I dont see why Kabul wouldn't possibly become a Commune though. The Reds might lose, but they might keep it as a way of saying "we didn't get knocked out" while the Alliance would probably only smuggle in weapons for as long as the Reds were pumping out divisions into Kandahar.

Other than that sweet Afghan Kush I don't see the Allies wanting to get too involved. The Franco British have bigger problems in Eastern Europe and the Indians, if they're smart, will just give them weapons and wash their hands of the situation.
 
Bulldoggus

Bulldoggus

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The Red Iron Chef said:
Fuck Erdogan. That bastard deserves to have his head put on a pike.
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I see you have been influenced by the Traitorous Gulenist dogs. Let me assure you that Justice and Development is the future of Turkey... :openedeyewink:
The Red Iron Chef said:
We didn't know jack shit about them because we didn't attempt to learn. Since the Communists are all about increasing the world's living standards, it would make sense that they would learn more about their allies to ease the process.
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I don't think we'll learn TTL. Our people genuinely believed they were doing right by the people of the world by launching a series of coups. You can listen to dozens of interviews of former CIA agents, and they're all convinced they helped the people when they overthrew socialist governments. And the combination of American arrogance and the conviction of the inevitability of world communism will be a helluva drug for whatever the TTL CIA is.
 
Redshank Galloglass

Redshank Galloglass

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Mr.E said:
Well, maybe not ban, but a reference to a very well-known act of brutality towards Turks is probably not the best way to express distaste for Erdogan.
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I'm going to be honest with you, I was thinking more "French Revolution" and less "Crusades" when it came to the head on a pike.

Nevertheless, apologies for getting heated, lets get back to the thread.
 

Bookmark1995

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Are Afghan tribesmen like mafia dons, running some kind of protection racket in the places they control. If the UASR and India both pushed for development of the region, I can see sabotage by greedy warlords as a serious barrier.
 
Bulldoggus

Bulldoggus

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Bookmark1995 said:
Are Afghan tribesmen like mafia dons, running some kind of protection racket in the places they control. If the UASR and India both pushed for development of the region, I can see sabotage by greedy warlords as a serious barrier.
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I think that is a little unfair to the tribes. Think of them as extremely large, extremely insular, extremely curmudgeonly families who hate being disturbed.
 
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