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It was a military coup. Basically, a cabal of military generals, appalled by South Africa's turn, and what they saw as the overly defeatist agenda of Ian Smith, seized power, and killed Smith. It still deals with a massive insurgency problem ( lead by Robert Mugabe), but has the benefit of being the Holy land of right wing reactionaries.

In others, every fascist nut that can hold a rifle has gone to Rhodesia?

But even then, I doubt it remain standing, considering it is probably surrounded on all sides by potential rivals.
 
In others, every fascist nut that can hold a rifle has gone to Rhodesia?

But even then, I doubt it remain standing, considering it is probably surrounded on all sides by potential rivals.
It's not like it's prosperous. The initial posts about it imply that it is a basketcase nation, held up only by AFS and Indian money and aging Franco-British military tech (and the atomic bomb), and threatened by a strong black insurgency, backed by South Africa, who can't attack it, because of the aforementioned nuclear weapons, which it has a sizeable arsenal of.
 
With this marathon, I can enjoy my revolution with a couch and some popcorn.
I understand that the ancient message, but I can not comment -
As far as I know the people of the communist formation most of the time paid work for the common good and self-development. Question - where do lying down watching TV (a symbol of laziness and apathy) with popcorn and beer (not too useful things)?
 
I understand that the ancient message, but I can not comment -
As far as I know the people of the communist formation most of the time paid work for the common good and self-development. Question - where do lying down watching TV (a symbol of laziness and apathy) with popcorn and beer (not too useful things)?
Most citizen have a lot more free time than OTL, so recreation is more common.
 
Most citizen have a lot more free time than OTL, so recreation is more common.
Rest - a loose concept. It is best combined with physical relaxation (gym, jogging) or mental load (read clever books or documentaries). A senseless idleness only leads to dullness and apathy. On the contrary - they will not miss a damn time!
 
Rest - a loose concept. It is best combined with physical relaxation (gym, jogging) or mental load (read clever books or documentaries). A senseless idleness only leads to dullness and apathy. On the contrary - they will not miss a damn time!
What? The original comment referred to a holiday, meaning they don't have to work that day, and can celebrate in their own way. One of those ways is watching a TV marathon.
 
Complete Collection of my "creativity" - The political party "of the Soviet sphere of influence" in Eastern Europe, with the exception of Greece and Italy, because of their status of opinion is not clear, nor is clear form of governance (dictatorship of the "popular fronts" or the power of the Communist Party).
1 German Democratic Republic
2 Polish People's Republic
3 People's Republic of Bulgaria
4 Czechoslovak Socialist Republic
5 The Romanian People's Republic
6 Hungarian People's Republic
7 Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
8 People's Republic of Albania
 
Political Parties of the Socialist Republic of Japan

Japanese Communist Party (Nihon Kyōsan-tō)
Founded:1922
Ideology: Neoconservatism, Marxist-DeLeonist
Political position: Right (SRJ) Center-Right (International)
International Affiliation: Communist International
Official Color: Red
Youth Wing: Communist Youth of Japan
Party Newspaper: Shimbun Akahata

Description: Despite the Cultural Revolution of the 70's (resulting in the end of the one-party rule), and the creation of the Democratic Socialist Party from its reformist left, the rump Japanese Communist Party was able to survive, primarily by reorganizing, focusing more on a democratic apparatus to get members elected in a democratic age. The reformist Right, which had taken power, managed to tone down its authoritarian tendencies, instead focusing on a more conservative message, retaining the values that started the Republic. As a result, it now holds the support of older citizens, and conservative urban dwellers, who care more for economic issues. However, due to the legacy of its early period of rule, it doesn't have as much of a clout as it once did.

Political stances


Capital Punishment: Supports the death penalty for major crimes and for treason
Civil Defense: Supports state-sponsered defense training for citizens in the vain of the American program
Cultural Stance: Largely conservative on social issues, supports returning to pre-Cultural Revolution mores
Defense: Supports the defense forces, and supports a standing army
Drug Policy: Heavy penalties for drug offenses
Economy: supports the participation of both government and worker's collectives in the economy
Education: Government backed education
Environment: Opposes efforts to regulate heavy industry to curb carbon emission, and combating climate change
Foreign Aid: Supports foreign aid to developing communist nations
Foreign Alliances: Supports a continued friendly relationship with the UASR, as well as building ties with the USSR and China
Immigration: Generally supports a well-regulated immigration system, with little illegal immigration
Social Welfare: Supports the Japanese welfare state
Taxation: supports income taxes
Trade: Supports free trade among communist nations; opposes trade with capitalist nations.

Democratic Socialist Party of Japan
(Nihon Minshuto Shakai-to)

Founded:1976
Ideology: Council Communism, Left-wing libertarianism
Political position: Center-Left(SRJ), Left(International)
International Affiliation: Socialist International
Official Color: Red, Black
Youth Wing: Democratic Youth of Japan
Party Newspaper: Muryo Shinbum
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Description: Formed by the split of the reformist left of the Communist Party, it became the largest party in the country since the Cultural Revolution. It supports decentralization, building off of the largely market socialist economy, and putting more power into local unions and town councils, as opposed to the Central government. Thus, it generally holds a lot of cooperative and local council support, which is enough to give it a wide range of influence. However, it is increasingly becoming more of a political machine, compromising its vision in order to retain power, especially in the face of upstart parties.

Political stances


Capital Punishment: Generally opposed, except for the most severe crimes
Civil Defense: Supports localized defense training, opposed to minors
Cultural Stance: Generally supports "Cultural Revolution" values
Defense: Supports the defense forces, but opposes a standing army
Drug Policy: Supports decriminalization and rehabilitation programs
Economy: Largely controlled by local Soviets and workers cooperatives
Education: Education run by the worker's council
Environment: Generally supports efforts to combat climate change and pollution, supports the creation of clean energy
Foreign Aid: Supports foreign aid to developing communist nations
Foreign Alliances: Supports both a relationship with Comintern nations, and a detente policy with the AFS
Immigration: Open borders
Social Welfare: Social welfare delegated to the worker's Soviets.
Taxation: Opposed to income taxes, supports government taxes from renting out buildings for coop meetings
Trade: Supports trade with both capitalist and communist nations.

Japanese Democratic Party (Nihon Minshuto)
Founded:1984
Ideology: Liberal Socialism
Political position: Center-Left(SRJ,International)
International Affiliation: International Democratic Union
Official Color: Blue
Youth Wing: Liberal Youth
Party Newspaper: Jiyu

Description: The JDP is generally the party of free economics. While not outright calling for the elimination of the government, it does call for stronger independent control of the economy by the worker's co-ops and collectives. Thus, it holds the support of urban workers and heavy industry, as well as technocrats and suburbianites
Political stances

Capital Punishment: Universally opposed
Civil Defense: Universally Opposed
Cultural Stance: Strongly supports "Cultural Revolution" values, and very liberal social policies
Defense: Decreased financial support for Defense; status quo on standing army
Drug Policy: Legalization
Economy: More emphasis on decentralized economic control to workers cooperatives, with some government institution
Education: Government education, with some allowance of worker's council run schools
Environment: Status quo; backburner issue
Foreign Aid: Supports foreign aid to developing nations of all political stripes
Foreign Alliances: Generally supports continued support for Comintern, but diplomatic geniality towards AFS nations
Immigration: Open borders
Social Welfare: Supports the Japanese welfare state
Taxation: Supports sales tax and tariff, oppose income taxes
Trade: Free Trade.

Anarcho-Syndicalist (Anako-Shindikato)

Founded:1987
Ideology: Anarcho-syndicalist
Political position:Left(SRJ) Left-wing (International)
International Affiliation: Libertarian International
Official Color: Black
Youth Wing: Anarchist Youth Association
Party Newspaper: Fuki!

Description: One of the upstart "student parties" that formed in the period after the Cultural Revolution, it styles itself as a more an association of anarchists than an actual political party. While it elects officials, they don't have a strong political machine, instead hold a platform, and allowing its members to form their own policies around those, than endorse official legislations It largely holds the support of college students, some rural regions, and those wanting more independence from Comintern.

Political stances

Capital Punishment: Universally opposed
Civil Defense: Universally opposed
Cultural Stance: Help accelerate "Cultural Revolution" social policies
Defense: Opposes both the defense force and a standing army
Drug Policy: Legalization
Economy: Entirely controlled by local Soviets and workers cooperatives
Education: Education run entirely by community collectives
Environment: Generally supports efforts to combat climate change and pollution; supports the creation of clean energy
Foreign Aid: Opposes government given aid, supports locally given charity
Foreign Alliances: Generally isolationist, focuses on self-sufficiency
Immigration: Open borders
Social Welfare: Social welfare delegated to the worker's Soviets
Taxation: Universally opposed
Trade: Limited Trade

Green Party of Japan (Nihon Midori-to)

Founded:1994
Ideology: Social ecology, ecolibertarianism
Political position: Left (SRJ) Far Left
International Affiliation: Green International
Official Color: Green
Youth Wing: Japanese Environmental League
Party Newspaper: Shinrin Shimbum

Description: A late comer to the Green Revolution, the Democratic Socialist were largely in support of environmentalism, but didn't pursue it vigorously. Thus, in 1994, a group of Democratic Socialists announced they would split from the main party, and form a party more dedicated to combating environmental degradation. It managed to get the support of some far left organizations, and eventually was able to gain support in student representations from colleges. It is the party of environmentalists and far-left college students, as well as older activists.

Political stances

Capital Punishment: universally opposed
Civil Defense: universally opposed
Cultural Stance: Supports policies that contribute to healthier living and lower environmental impacts, including a higher use of bikes, and the preservation of nature
Defense: Universally opposed
Drug Policy: Supports decriminalization and rehabilitation programs for harder drugs, legalize softer drugs
Economy: Economic policies focused on balancing worker's needs with environmental protection. Strongly supports limiting heavy industry.
Education: Education focused on greener living and healthy life tips.
Environment: Strongly supports efforts to combat climate change and pollution. Tries to focus its efforts to get most parts of Japanese life to help in this cause
Foreign Aid: Supports foreign aid to developing communist nations, and support green policies in those nations
Foreign Alliances: Supports diplomatic relations based on environmental policies, and what a nation is doing to protect the environment
Immigration: Open borders
Social Welfare: Supports the Japanese Welfare state
Taxation: Supports taxes on carbon emitting industries and more industrial parts of life
Trade: Environmental based trade

Shinto-Buddhist Worker's League (Shinbutsu no Rōdō-sha no rīgu)


Founded:1980
Ideology:Buddhist socialism, humanism
Political position: Left (SRJ) Center-Left (International)
International Affiliation: Religious Socialist International
Official Color: Brown
Youth Wing: Shinto-Buddhist Association of Japanese Youth
Party Newspaper:
Sekai no nyūsu

Description: During the one party rule, one particular target for the ruling government was Shinto-Buddhism, both of which were tied with the Imperialist regime. Thus, shrines were destroyed in the immediate aftermath, priests were persecuted, and the open practice of religion was restricted. As the liberalizing period of the Cultural Revolution began, some religious men began to advocate a more modern form of Shinto-Buddhism. One which was accepting of other traditions, and away from the Emperor worship of Imperial Shinto. After a while, they slowly began to advocate a form of socialism based on Buddhist beliefs on alleviating suffering and on respecting human traditions. Due to its religious name and appeals to tradition, it holds the support of some religious, conservative rural regions, and even those just wanting to emphasize the human element in policy.
Political stances

Capital Punishment: universally opposed
Civil Defense: Generally support some civil defense, but oppose conscripting all citizens
Cultural Stance: Supportive of women and ethnic, religious and sexual minorities. However, overall somewhat conservative on social issues
Defense:
Generally supports the defense force, but opposes a standing army
Drug Policy: Supports decriminalization and rehabilitation programs for all drugs
Economy: Economic policies should first and foremost focus on alleviating the suffering of the citizens.

Education: Education focused on teaching humanistic values and the importance of helping one another and democracy
Environment: Strongly supports efforts to combat climate change and pollution, in line with the Shinto respect for nature
Foreign Aid: Strongly supports foreign aid to developing nations
Foreign Alliances: Pacifist
Immigration: Open borders, especially refugees
Social Welfare: Supports the Japanese welfare state
Taxation: Generally supports taxes on goods, but opposes income taxes
Trade: humanistic trade

Futurist Society

Founded:2003
Ideology: Transhumanism, Futurism, Anti-Japaneseism, International socialist
Political position: Far-Left (SRJ), Ultra-Left (International)
International Affiliation: Futurist International
Official Color: Neon
Youth Wing: None (Youth are generally participate in the party proper)
Party Newspaper: Puroguresu

Description: The Party began as the brainchild of Shinoru Miyaka, a 22 year old college student in Kyoto, who had a dream of a glorious future society while staying up late one night watching old space anime. He began to dig into futurist literature, and found the works of futurologists like Gerard O'Neill, Freeman Dyson, Arthur C. Clarke, and Hans Moravec. Inspired to start bringing this future society , he realized he could use political influence to bring it out, forming a party from a small group of people. While initially dismissed as a cult of personality around Miyaka, it spread to other college campuses, and in a surprise twist during the 2009 elections, it won a substantial vote in the college representation. It joined with the American Futurist Society, and the Franco-British Party for the Advancement of Mankind, in forming "Futurist International" in 2011, a "pan-ideological" organization dedicated to furthering technology to help all of mankind, and allow us to survive for many thousands of years. It is largely a college based party, though it has some support with scientist and military representation.

Political stances

Capital Punishment: universally opposed
Civil Defense: Supports replacing the Civil Defense force, with an automated computer defense system, freeing the need for the average citizen to defend themselves
Cultural Stance: Supports research into the use of genetic modification to eliminate diseases, as well as the increased use of prosthetics and metal. Also the increased use of computers and the rights of sentient animals (i.e. chimps, dolphins, gorillas)
Defense: Equip existing defense force with newer, updated technology, and develop robotic drones and suits to reduce the number of soldiers. If a standing Army came into existence, the same
Drug Policy: Genetic modifications to resist the harder effects of drug, neurotherapy to help existing addicts
Economy: Increase the use of robots and computers in the management of the economy and particularly government run economic institutions
Education: Education focused heavily on the sciences and technology, particularly on innovations.
Environment: Strongly supports efforts to combat climate change and pollution. Supports the use of microwave or solar power satellites in helping with this cause
Foreign Aid: Supports foreign aid in order to help bring nations together, sharing their resources
Foreign Alliances: Supports an eventual world state, slowly eliminating the nations of the world, and uniting them. In effect, destroying the nation of Japan itself.
Immigration: Open borders
Social Welfare: Supports the Japanese welfare state, as a means of getting people support for augmentations
Taxation: Supports lowering taxes on robotic supported and computer based industries
Trade: Trade to get technologies from all over the world.


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Well, 7 years of middle and high school Japanese didn't do me much good here. What are you going to do.

Anyway, a special thanks to @Alexander the Average for showing me the link to "Anti-Japaneseism" link.
 
I was sort of thinking that having Kowashi being part of the Japanese Communist Party wasn't something I was entirely sure of, though it might have been where he started.. Guess the Shinto-Buddhist Worker's League is the party for him.

Thanks, Mr.E.
 
So up until the 1970s ITTL, what was Japan like? Was it like North Korea in terms of human rights and standard of living?


A party built around transhumanism seems unusual. Is the idea more accepted ITTL?
 
So up until the 1970s ITTL, what was Japan like? Was it like North Korea in terms of human rights and standard of living?


A party built around transhumanism seems unusual. Is the idea more accepted ITTL?
If I remember correctly, it was essentially a one-party state. I think it was referred to as Stalinist in terms of government, but using a libertarian socialist economy. It has been referred to as authoritarian, but I don't think to North Korea levels. More like a Warsaw Pact nation.

I was just having some fun with the parties, just trying something different. Given technology is at a higher level ITTL, and genetics is probably better understood. I think there will probably be a little more support for transhumanism. However, the Futurist party is minor, basically just represented in a couple seats allocated to colleges. Not even the majority, it is one of the smaller parties.
 
My Christmas gift Forum. As much as I am a Russian - is the subject of the Russian politicians better made me. Plus I finished editing the alternate versions of themselves (Iskander).


Libertarian Party of the Soviet Union :

Leader - Udaltsov, Sergey S.
Secretary - Baburova Anastasia Eduardovna

Workers' League

Leader - Tulkin, Victor Arkad'evich
Secretary - Elmeev, Vasily Yakovlevich

Kadets

Leader - Slabunova, Emilia Edgardovna
Secretary - Yavlinsky, Grigory

Communist Party of Ukraine
Yulia Tymoshenko
Petr Nikolaevich Symonenko

Radical Syndicalists
Mikheil Saakashvili
Vasiliy Starostin

Soviet Values
Vladimir Eidelstein
Sergey Kurginyan
Do you think any of these parties is leading in the USSR? And what kind of international conflicts are relevant?
 
There's never going to be a North Korea version of a communist state ITTL.

As in never ever.

It's an inverse North Korea ITTL through Rhodesia and even Rhodesia looks better than North Korea, because unlike North Korea, Rhodesia has the bomb and has bigger outside support to keep itself existing despite communist countries surrounding it.

Having a North Korea is very impossible to happen to say the least, with American economic aid throughout the Comintern affecting internal economic systems of every communist state including more politically authoritarian countries.

Jello already mentioned that the Soviet Union will be acting more like France within OTL NATO in terms of looking for exercising more independence in foreign policy and as South Korea economically back during Park Chung Hee years but in an inverse manner.

Libertarian syndicalist components are present in every communist country's economy ITTL, but more politically authoritarian countries just do more coercive measures, New Deal liberalism's methods more or less, and practice more economic centralization. Markets are also present in every communist state's economy.

There's never been something like Soviet Russia's planned command economy ITTL. The American Revolution of 1933 stopped the process in the USSR. After all, that economic system never fully consolidated itself IOTL until High Stalinism's height in 1938.

And Stalinism and Trotskyism IOTL never fully became equivalent versions ITTL. Even Stalin embraced the world revolution by Red May in America without acknowledging Trotsky or rehabilitating his image in the Soviet Union. After all, rejecting it before American communists rose to power can be rationalized as Stalin being right and Trotsky being wrong.

Postwar Japan will be authoritarian, but pushing for a one party-state without even token political opposition is impossible. Japanese anti-Empire liberal democrats may position themselves inside the ruling coalition at first but even them will move out eventually. I don't think such single ruling Communist party-states will exist ITTL outside the Soviet Union before the Cold War. I'm pretty sure even Soviet Russia will loosen up politically and allow internal party politics pre-1929 to flourish once more. It doesn't mean that the nomenklatura and the clientism will not exist anymore. It doesn't mean that pro-Trotsky people will make a come back. It doesn't mean that a Soviet version of the LCP will emerge. But there will be a diversification and more open power conflicts. By the 1970s, it's going to be all over and the USSR will move to the left.

What made ITTL communist states to be considered authoritarian is not going to be seen merely through liberal democratic standards like multi-candidate elections but also through libertarian socialist standards, with the latter taking greater precedence.

This is a different world.
 
Guys, I think we are trying very hard to push overly authoritarian regimes in a world where communism largely strays towards a libertarian bend.

I don't think we are living up to the expectations that we should be setting up for ourselves.
 
There's never going to be a North Korea version of a communist state ITTL.

As in never ever.

It's an inverse North Korea ITTL through Rhodesia and even Rhodesia looks better than North Korea, because unlike North Korea, Rhodesia has the bomb and has bigger outside support to keep itself existing despite communist countries surrounding it.

Having a North Korea is very impossible to happen to say the least, with American economic aid throughout the Comintern affecting internal economic systems of every communist state including more politically authoritarian countries.

Jello already mentioned that the Soviet Union will be acting more like France within OTL NATO in terms of looking for exercising more independence in foreign policy and as South Korea economically back during Park Chung Hee years but in an inverse manner.

Libertarian syndicalist components are present in every communist country's economy ITTL, but more politically authoritarian countries just do more coercive measures, New Deal liberalism's methods more or less, and practice more economic centralization. Markets are also present in every communist state's economy.

There's never been something like Soviet Russia's planned command economy ITTL. The American Revolution of 1933 stopped the process in the USSR. After all, that economic system never fully consolidated itself IOTL until High Stalinism's height in 1938.

And Stalinism and Trotskyism IOTL never fully became equivalent versions ITTL. Even Stalin embraced the world revolution by Red May in America without acknowledging Trotsky or rehabilitating his image in the Soviet Union. After all, rejecting it before American communists rose to power can be rationalized as Stalin being right and Trotsky being wrong.

Postwar Japan will be authoritarian, but pushing for a one party-state without even token political opposition is impossible. Japanese anti-Empire liberal democrats may position themselves inside the ruling coalition at first but even them will move out eventually. I don't think such single ruling Communist party-states will exist ITTL outside the Soviet Union before the Cold War. I'm pretty sure even Soviet Russia will loosen up politically and allow internal party politics pre-1929 to flourish once more. It doesn't mean that the nomenklatura and the clientism will not exist anymore. It doesn't mean that pro-Trotsky people will make a come back. It doesn't mean that a Soviet version of the LCP will emerge. But there will be a diversification and more open power conflicts. By the 1970s, it's going to be all over and the USSR will move to the left.

What made ITTL communist states to be considered authoritarian is not going to be seen merely through liberal democratic standards like multi-candidate elections but also through libertarian socialist standards, with the latter taking greater precedence.

This is a different world.
You forgot one important thing - in Japan there was no Communist Party. The fascist and monarchist organizations will have at least a high pressure (if not will be banned). Besides it left not too popular, and the population will be demoralization. If the Americans want socialism because in Japan, they can easily install a dictatorship.
 
Guys, I think we are trying very hard to push overly authoritarian regimes in a world where communism largely strays towards a libertarian bend.
I was just describing what I read earlier. Actually, I forgot to mention. "One Party Rule" could easily just refer to a Singapore style state, where one party holds power perpetually, despite technically being a democracy. That's why I kept it that vague, and didn't directly refer to it as a dictatorship or tyranny in the piece itself. My reference to the Warsaw Pact in the later post was more me trying to provide a better example of what Japan might be like.
 
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