Use the french* abreviation: Organisation That Allies Nations
*that would please them more than anything.
*that would please them more than anything.
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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But that means that the French would have to change their acronym again.
No, because France is the center of the world, the organisation is still Atlantic.
Timothy Pickering's planned Northern Confederacy.
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The Real Origin of the Secession Movement on JSTOR
Eberhard P. Deutsch, The Real Origin of the Secession Movement, American Bar Association Journal, Vol. 55, No. 12 (December, 1969), pp. 1134-1140
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How have I never heard about this!?!Timothy Pickering's planned Northern Confederacy.
The Real Origin of the Secession Movement on JSTOR
Eberhard P. Deutsch, The Real Origin of the Secession Movement, American Bar Association Journal, Vol. 55, No. 12 (December, 1969), pp. 1134-1140
Also, it doesn't look very stable given that half of it is English Loyalists or French Canadian.
Funnily enough the earliest forms of this were in 1786 and a somewhat later revival in 1804 (but not the 1812 version) included "down to the Potomac": https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/the-essex-junto/Timothy Pickering's planned Northern Confederacy.
The Real Origin of the Secession Movement on JSTOR
Eberhard P. Deutsch, The Real Origin of the Secession Movement, American Bar Association Journal, Vol. 55, No. 12 (December, 1969), pp. 1134-1140
It sounds like it would've been a northern-in-general thing given the chance but the majority were fine as New Englanders with a NE focus and NY/NJ at least as buffering.
"Antifascism" and "NATO" in the same phrase can only be the incipit for a joke.Normalizing Antifascism Treaty Organization
Does anyone have a QBAM of this? Mr. Bubbles’ version is MBAM I believe.It seems to follow this map which you can even find on Wikipedia, so... it's OTL.
Looks like the Czechs also got the old County of Glatz/Klodsko too... seems appropriate, as it had been closer associated with Bohemia proper than with the various duchies of Silesia within the Lands of the Bohemian Crown....
A few separate Yugoslavia-based proposals:
1) Between 1920 and the creation of the Banovina of Croatia, one frequently discussed proposal was the "amputation" of Croatia from Yugoslavia, turning Yugoslavia into a solely Greater Serbian state. According to some sources, even King Alexander was in favor of this. The general idea behind it was that the Croats weren't too keen on the centralized nature of the Yugoslav state which was favored by the Serbian elite. I'm sadly unaware of any maps that feature specific proposals on what the future Serbian-Croatian border should be, however the "Homogenous Serbia" proposal by Stevan Moljević in 1941 might provide a good reference, as would be the Yugoslav oblasts of Split & Primorje-Krajina & Zagreb & Osijek.
2) When the Banovia of Croatia was created, it was also suggested to turn the remainder of Yugoslavia into Banovias, turning Yugoslavia into a firmly federal state.
3) During Croatia's war of independence, the Z-4 Plan proposed in early 1995 would've seen the formal creation of an autonomous Serbian region with Croatia, with its own flag, police, and cultural institutions.
Interestingly, the automous region would lose its largest city, Vukovar, and that type of proposal may exasperate issues Croatia faces IOTL about municipalities that have Serbian as a recognized language.
1) Between 1920 and the creation of the Banovina of Croatia, one frequently discussed proposal was the "amputation" of Croatia from Yugoslavia, turning Yugoslavia into a solely Greater Serbian state. According to some sources, even King Alexander was in favor of this. The general idea behind it was that the Croats weren't too keen on the centralized nature of the Yugoslav state which was favored by the Serbian elite. I'm sadly unaware of any maps that feature specific proposals on what the future Serbian-Croatian border should be, however the "Homogenous Serbia" proposal by Stevan Moljević in 1941 might provide a good reference, as would be the Yugoslav oblasts of Split & Primorje-Krajina & Zagreb & Osijek.
2) When the Banovia of Croatia was created, it was also suggested to turn the remainder of Yugoslavia into Banovias, turning Yugoslavia into a firmly federal state.
3) During Croatia's war of independence, the Z-4 Plan proposed in early 1995 would've seen the formal creation of an autonomous Serbian region with Croatia, with its own flag, police, and cultural institutions.
Interestingly, the automous region would lose its largest city, Vukovar, and that type of proposal may exasperate issues Croatia faces IOTL about municipalities that have Serbian as a recognized language.
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Yes, there's no way this plan could have possibly gone wrong.3) During Croatia's war of independence, the Z-4 Plan proposed in early 1995 would've seen the formal creation of an autonomous Serbian region with Croatia, with its own flag, police, and cultural institutions.
Interestingly, the automous region would lose its largest city, Vukovar, and that type of proposal may exasperate issues Croatia faces IOTL about municipalities that have Serbian as a recognized language.
That peace plan got abandoned when Serbian nationalists within Croatia saw it as too many concessions given to the Croatian state, so... Take from that what you will.
The whole collapse of Yugoslavia could've been even messier and bloodier and could've created multiple figurative Bosnia & Herzegovinas and Kosovos...
Following from this post, I tried my best to plot out the Bhutanese enclaves within Tibet. They are all within Ngari prefecture, in Tibet's west.
I'm certain of the location of the enclaves within Burang Co. (eight enclaves east of Minsar), not so with the ones in Zanda or Gar, which I think are Sanmar/Samur and Gezon/Gar Dzong respectively.
The sites I'm uncertain of are Ite/Itse Gompa, Gesur, Gezon and Samur: The latter two I've tentatively plotted out in the far west (esp. given that Gezon should be situated in Gar Co., and may be(?) the same as Shiquanhe, Gar Dzong) but aside from that all I know is that they should be in the vicinity of each other to the north of Uttarakhand, as opposed to the Bhutanese enclaves in Burang Co., which are north of Nepal.
This is the best I've been able to plot out, so if anyone has any better do let me know.
I'm certain of the location of the enclaves within Burang Co. (eight enclaves east of Minsar), not so with the ones in Zanda or Gar, which I think are Sanmar/Samur and Gezon/Gar Dzong respectively.
The sites I'm uncertain of are Ite/Itse Gompa, Gesur, Gezon and Samur: The latter two I've tentatively plotted out in the far west (esp. given that Gezon should be situated in Gar Co., and may be(?) the same as Shiquanhe, Gar Dzong) but aside from that all I know is that they should be in the vicinity of each other to the north of Uttarakhand, as opposed to the Bhutanese enclaves in Burang Co., which are north of Nepal.
This is the best I've been able to plot out, so if anyone has any better do let me know.
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Iranian plans during the Iran-Iraq War:
Iraqi plans:
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From the book The Gulf War by John Bulloch
I think the intent of the Khuzestan puppet gov thing was to use that as a springboard for a Mujahideen led gov across all of Iran with Khuzestan being autonomous; tho in a universe where Iraq conquers all of Khuzestan but not the rest of Iran, I think they'd just annex it outright since the DRFLA was dead.