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Russian State soldier mobilizes for the Invasion of Fengtian government, 1937.
Konstantin Rodzaevsky, commander of a combat squad battalion, prepares to push on further after occupying Harbin.
Note, he has a different relevance in my head canon to otl irrelevant fringe, he likes national renewal which shapes his atl views, however him and savinkov don't nessisarily see eye to eye, he is ultimately to irrelevant to become a political figure. Noted for devotion to cause during desperate defense of Sakhalin later.
An aerial view of the 2014 Sochi Olympics (Sochi, Georgia).
Comrade Beria would be proud.
Anti-American propaganda published by the Communists, an offshoot of the Jacobins, 1956. Note the use of the old USA flag, expressing the idea of some pundits that the WCA was “a bourgeois state under the guise of a worker’s one”.
Although the Workers' Commonwealth of America was badly damaged by the Second American Civil War and the Great World War, the surviving industries and its huge population allowed the SCA to recover earlier than the European countries, almost totally destroyed by the war.
In the Internationale Congress of 1954 First Secretary Elizabeth Nord proposed the Economic Recovery Plan, nicknamed “Kohr Plan” for the Secretary of Economy, which sought to re-establish the European industry and economy with American support, as well as to develop other Socialist nations such as Centroamerica or the Bharatiya Commune. While many welcomed the help, some viewed it as a new kind of imperialism by the part of the Americans, seeking to subjugate the world under Washington’s rule. This sentiment was more prevalent in France, where the increasing importance of America and the Soviet Union and the poor state of the Commune during the post-war period led some to fear that France’s leading role in the Syndicalist world would become a footnote in History, turning into a pawn of Washington or Moscow.
This sentiment was mainly found among the Jacobins and the Sorelians succesors, but also between the Anarchists and even the Orthodox Travailleurs, and lead to strikes, protests and attacks, culminating with the assassination of American ambassador John Lopez at the hands of a particularly hot-headed Anarchist. In the end, the fear was demonstrated to be for no reason: France would benefit greatly from the Kohr Plan, surpassing pre-war levels of prosperity and turning into a global cultural hub, and the establishment of the European Union in 1965 meant that the Commune, along with Britain and Germany, would become the leader of Europe, maintaining its place in the international stage.
Persian soldiers patrolling a road somewhere in the Pearl Coast , 2017.
After the events of the Red Night Persia, along with the other members of the Pact of Middle Eastern States, declared war on the Arabian Caliphate in August 18, 2006. After pushing back the Arabian army in Bagdad and Kuwait the Persians followed the coastline until Qatar, while in the meantime the Navy bombarded the Ikhwanite ports and coastal facilities and several divisions landed in the Pearl Coast, taking Abu Dhabi in September 29. By the end of the year the Imperial Army had already conquered most of Oman and a good chunk of the interior of the peninsula, meeting with the Egyptians in Riyadh in January 25.
After the Siege of Mecca, the subsequent end of the war and the signing of the Treaty of Mogadishu Persia handed control of most of the conquered territory to the new kingdoms of Oman and Inner Arabia, but kept Bahrain, Qatar and the Pearl Coast, hoping to integrate this oil-rich regions into their country. However, the bad state of these lands (due to the war and the lack of funding by the Ikhwan regime to anything but mosques, oil extractions sites and defence systems, which meant that even the most essential infrastructure was severely underdeveloped) forced the government to invest huge amounts of money, and Arab and Islamist terrorists are still a worrying problem, with many crossing the non-existent border with the Rub’ al Khali, home to the remnants of the Caliphate. The general instability of the region and the lack of any rewards have meant that many have reconsidered the plan of “controlling both shores of the Gulf”, with even the Shah himself speaking against it. Nowadays the newly elected Conservative coalition is working in the creation of a puppet confederation of local sheikdoms while still ruling directly over Qatar, Bahrain and the other side of the Strait of Hormuz.
Photograph of Adil Abdul-Mahdi taken in February 15, 2018.
Adil Abdul-Mahdi, president of the Mashriqi Republic, was born in Bagdad in 1942 to an important Shiite cleric. After studying economy in Tehran and later in Dar es Salaam he became involved in an underground Syndicalist group, collaborating in the Dove Revolution in 1967 that saw the end of the monarchy. However, as time passed, he became less and less revolutionary, eventually turning into a moderate Democratic Islamist  after a religious awakening in a journey to Persia. Afterwards he returned to Mashriq, where he would start his political career, being elected as minister of Finance and Economy in 1994 and 1998, minister of Oil in 2006, Vice President in 2012 and president of the Republic in 2016. His term in office has so far been occupied with dealing with the terrorists in the southern deserts and the Kurdish separatists, as well as trying to increase the power of the Mashriqi Republic in the WOÖFS  and strengthening their relationship with Persia.
Huey Long during the signing of the Houston Accord, 1938.
In March 1938 Patton’s forces finally expulsed the Federals from Texas, taking the oil wells of the region. However, the Mexicans had been preparing to intervene in behalf of the CSA for a long time and the American Union State’s High Command feared that the Syndies would break the Truce of Philadelphia and attack from North and South. In a quick move, Long took a drastic measure: he offered the Mexicans southern Texas, up to the Colorado river, in exchange of a non-aggression pact. While many in the Mexican government wanted to continue with the plan of helping the Second American Revolution, Pancho Villa and his cabinet decided to take the safe path, suspecting that the army wasn’t strong enough to deal with the Kingfish’s forces and eager to take control of the Texan oil. Thus, in April 24, 1938, the Houston Accord was ratified, and southern Texas became a part of the United Mexican States.
While this act ensured that the AUS wouldn’t have to worry about another enemy, they lost control of several important oil wells, and Long’s reputation suffered greatly, with many of the more nationalist elements of the country accusing him of being a “traitor” and plotting against him, culminating with Huey’s assassination in July 3 and the Pelley’s Coup.
In the other side Mexico benefited greatly from the new oil wells, but started a diplomatic conflict with the CSA because of their “traitorous actions” (it would finally end in the 70s with the recognition by the Commonwealth of America of the acquisition  but still survives today in the stereotype of the “traitorous Mexican”). They also had to deal with maintaining peace and integrating the “Anglos” into their country, fighting with insurgents and terrorists. Nowadays the situation has calmed and South Texas is an autonomous region inside Mexico, with English as the co-official language.
TTL name of region occupied in OTL by the United Arab Emirates (sounds better than Pirate Coast...).
Democratic Islamists are Social Conservatives who sought to establish a democratic state, but one that follows the Quran’s teachings, while at the same time defending the necessity of a «big government» (social welfare system, nationalization of key industries...).
 The Weltorganisation der Ölförderstaaten (World Organization of Oil-Producing States) is an international organization formed by the main oil producers and exporters in the world. Established by the German Empire-in-exile and several other countries from Africa and the Middle East in 1976, it nowadays controls most of the oil market. It’s members include Imperial Germany, Persia, Egypt, the Republic of Libya, Venezuela, etc.
 Until then it was in a limbo, with both countries maintaining good relations while overlooking the “problem”.
Seydlitz Kurzbach, a German turncoat to the Russian State, commanding the German National Sovereignty Front, 1944, during defense of Kornilovgrad. He likely defected due to ambitions and betting that Russia's population mass would win the war, he thought he could be put as a puppet ruler of a "prussian state" feeling alienated at home by more liberal generals. Following the defeat of the Russian State, he was executed for treason.
Note, I tried figuring out what a German Vlasov equivalent might look like.
An American refugee camp in Colorado. Following the outbreak of the Second American Civil War, migrant camps like this one were repurposed to house Americans fleeing the violence raging throughout the East Coast. However, these camps weren't originally built to house the thousands that flooded in, which led to food shortages, terrible living conditions, and even deaths. Following the surrender of the Federalists to the AUS, these camps would then be filled by men and women who fought for the CSA and USA to await trials for their allegiances during the Civil War. However, these trials would never occur. After the Silver Legion's coup and the founding of the Commonwealth, Pelley made the decision to repurpose these camps for something far more sinister...
Avraham Stern the first president of the National Commonwealth of Israel regarded as the "Visionary of the State" by his supporters & Founding Father of Israel by modern Israelis and Jewish Diaspora during his time in the Ottoman empire he founded the organization Lehi "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel" and fought in 3 year long rebellion against the Ottomans in order to establish a "Hebrew Republic" after the formation of the Cairo Pact he approached Sultan Farouk I and offered his services to him and the created of a united front with the Arab led Islamic Rennisance Movement led by Izz ad-Din al-Qassam in order to expel Ottoman influence from the region following the Axis Victory in the Ottoman-Axis war relations between Stern and the Arabs died down tremendous which resulted in the creation of the Kingdom of Palastine he went underground and restarted his insurgecy only this time against the Arabs during this time he approached Russia fresh off of it's victory over Japan and currently in a tense standoff with the Cairo Pact and Iran over the Tabriz crisis and the Kurdish situation and offered an alliance with Savnikov against the Cairo Pact in exchange for the creation of a Jewish State in Palastine seeing the oppertunity to get rid of the Jewish Diaspora within Russia and wanted land from the Persians he agreed and eventually the Tabriz crisis and the Kurdish Rebellion against the Iranian monarchy escalates into yet another regional war only this time Russia curbstomped through air, armored, and numerical superiority giving Russian undisputed hegemony over most of the Arab world Savnikov honors his deal with Stern and Israel was born (it composes of modern day Israel, Palastine, Sniai Penninsula, Suez Canal Western Jordan, half of Lebanon, and Southern Syria including Amman, Beirut, and Damascus) the nation exists today as a Far-Right Authoritarian Theocracy currently led by Meir Kahane and is a very close ally of Russia
I wonder what this TL's version of Mortal Engines will be like. Any ideas?
It depeends how the TL it plays out, of cource, but the two empires which cause the appcolas will be more dirrative of the KR nations, (CSA, German Empire, Russian State), more Acient tech as Germany organin names, airship are called Zeppelins. The Traktionstadtsgesellschaft might play a more important role, seeing that Murnau always seemed quite Imperial German to me. Guilds in London may be Syndicates, or the Green Storm could also be pesudo-Socialist.
Just some ideas.
Israel led by Kahane? goddamnit. Scary
Especially for the Muslims
Yep, only crazy people are going to enjoy this one
I'm sorry, but English is not my mother tongue, so I use the Google translator.
Armored trains of the Second Civil War.
US army armored train "Constitution". Virginia, March 1937.
CSA armored train "Comrade Lenin". Southern Illinois, June 1938
AUS armored train "General Braxton Bragg". North Carolina, September 1937.
US army armored train "President James Madison". Eastern Wyoming, January 1938.
PSA armored train "Defender". Southern California Autumn 1937
US army armored train "General Sherman". Oklahoma, May 1939.
It is strange that no one (it seems) thought about this topic. USA have the largest railway in the world and the largest railway industry. Given the serious shortage of artillery, tanks and aircraft at the beginning of the conflict, armored trains should be a very important element of the civil war.
The Junkers JU-2 "Morgan", armed with the Krupp "Werwolf" Multi-Purpose Burst Missile, AKA, the "Mother of all Missiles", first flight was in 2022.
An Image from German Cartoon "Kriegerkatzen"
Krupp's Magnum-Opus, the Anti-Air Plasma Beam emitting Tower "Excalibur"
The Trabant NT, a controversial, yet widely used electric car in Germany.
The Messerschmitt ME-2000 Typhoon
Yuri Lowenthal, the voice actor of Longtail in the English dub of Kriegerkatzen, and Pixy in the Japanese Arcade Flying Game "Ace Combat Zero: The Osean War"
A Pacific States Border Sign
After meeting at Lyon in june 1940, troops of the French and the German Empire treat together their wounded.
US army train "General Sherman"
I'm sorry, but English is not my mother tongue, so I use the Google translator.
Armored trains of the Second Civil War. Part 2.
Artillery-anti-aircraft train car of the US army armored train "General Grant", armed with 3 "/ 23 caliber gun. Virginia, February 1937.
AUS soldiers near the destroyed CSA armored train "Paris Commune" during the "Great Northern Offensive" (A massive attack of AUS forces on the states of Illinois and Indiana with the aim of cutting the territory controlled by CSA in half. Despite all the successes, the offensive was finally halted 30 kilometers from Chicago, and then thrown back a hundred kilometers by the counterattack of the 1st and 3rd revolutionary army. The operation failed, but the heavy losses of both sides AUS and CSA allowed the Federalists to tip the scales in their favor). Illinois, August 1938.
Artillery platform of AUS armored train " White Knight" (division "Ku Klux Klan"). Kentucky, October 1937.
CSA armored train "Abraham Lincoln". West Virginia, May 1939.
CSA armored train "Spartacus". Iowa, May 1938.
Heavy artillery platform of PSA armored train "Liberty". Nevada, September and November 1937.
US army armored train "General Winfield Scott". Oklahoma, September 1940.
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