Otto, Duke of Estonia & Lolland, wins the battle of Taphede

Christopher II of Denmark died in 1332, having pawned all of his kingdom away to German nobles and Hanseatic merchants, especially the infamous “Bald count” Gerhard III of Holstein. This started the 8-year period of the “Kingless time” until Valdemar Atterdag managed to restore the Danish state.

Already in 1333, Valdemar’s older brother Otto tried to stake his claim to the throne. He was Duke of Lolland and Estonia, then a Danish territory. His sister Margaret was married to Louis, Margrave of Brandenburg and son of Emperor Louis IV, of the house of Wittelsbach. With Louis’ support, which Otto gained promising him Estonia, Otto raised an army of Danes and Branenburgers and tried to force his way to Viborg in Jutland, intending to be hailed as king there.

Naturally Count Gerhard, and the Danish nobles quite happy not having a king, wished to prevent this and raised their own armies. Otto and Gerhard’s forces met outside Viborg at Taphede in October of 1334. The battle was hard fought, with Ottos forces supposedly fighting almost to the last man, but they were overcome by Gerhards men and Duke Otto was captured.

What if Otto had won that battle, and possibly captured or killed Count Gerhard? Defeating the dreaded count would be a big boost to his prestige in Denmark, and may get enough of the country on board with his rebellion that he could actually succeed in claiming the throne. His victory wouldn’t make Denmark completely independent again though, as he would be heavily reliant on Wittelsbach support - indeed some have viewed him as little more than a puppet of his brother-in-law. Denmark may be come a de-facto part of the HRE, atkeast for a time. Also, without the almost full decade of anarchy that was the kingless time the Danes may be more willing to sell out to the Germans again.

Might the Wittelsbach have an easier time of keeping the Imperial throne with a friendly kingdom to the north? What would a Wittelsbach-ruled Estonia look like?

Any input is appreciated.
 
But it could have some interesting effects if Otto gets the throne, and Denmark is part of the HRE. But then when Emperor Ludwig IV dies, Otto uses the interregnum to assert Danish independence from Karl IV.
He’d have to walk the tightrope between getting support from the emperor and trying to assert himself at the same time, not an easy task by any means. Especially if Valdemar Atterdag is staying at the court of Louis IV as in otl, if Otto gets to uppity the Emperor may well support his brothers claim. The period between his rise to the throne and Louis’ death will most likely be the most important, maybe an alliance with Sweden could have helped? Euphemia of Sweden (Albert of Mecklenburg’s mother) only married in 1335, and her German wedding only went through at great difficult. If there’s a Danish king as a potential marriage candidate he may have been an option instead.
 
Didn't say it would be easy (mean, the Dutch took 80 years and the Swiss took until the Peace of Westphalia to get out). Particularly if Karl IV still has his Bohemia-Baltic axis in place.


And there is no reason why he wouldn't have it, although Otto was pro-Wittelsbach so maybe one of Ludwig's sons would be elected next emperor.
 
And there is no reason why he wouldn't have it, although Otto was pro-Wittelsbach so maybe one of Ludwig's sons would be elected next emperor.
That never made sense to me, why the Wittelsbachs had to field weird candidates (a prince of Schwarzburg I think and Edward III) for the imperial throne when there WAS an adult son (Ludwig V) and heir
 
That never made sense to me, why the Wittelsbachs had to field weird candidates (a prince of Schwarzburg I think and Edward III) for the imperial throne when there WAS an adult son (Ludwig V) and heir
Just looking at the wiki pages of the sons of Louis IV, several of them mention excommunication. Maybe they were all excommunicated and thus implausible candidates?
 
Just looking at the wiki pages of the sons of Louis IV, several of them mention excommunication. Maybe they were all excommunicated and thus implausible candidates?
Ludwig IV was excommunicated as well IIRC. Although that may have been a French ploy to ensure a Luxemburg election
 
Didn't say it would be easy (mean, the Dutch took 80 years and the Swiss took until the Peace of Westphalia to get out). Particularly if Karl IV still has his Bohemia-Baltic axis in place.
Yabbut the Netherlands and Switzerland had been parts of the HRE since its beginning, whereas Denmark had always been an independent sovereign state. Otto's "vassalage" to the HRE would be only 13 years old when Louis dies, and it would be revoked by Otto himself. And I strongly doubt that Denmark could be formally incorporated into the HRE. Hungary never was, even thought there were 13 Kings who were also Emperors, nor Prussia, even though Prussia's royal title was.. authorized by Emperor Leopold I.
 
Even if Otto win at Taphede, he have only removed Gerhard, Johann still control Zealand, Sweden controlling Scania, while Valdemar control Schleswig. So Otto will de facto only control Nørrejylland, Funen, Lolland-Falster and Estonia.
 
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Otto’s relation to Count Johann would be interesting. In otl it was the count that invited Valdemar Atterdag to return to Denmark in the first place when his Danish pawned territories revolted in the late 1330’s, if there’s a claimant to the Danish throne already by 1334 they may revolt earlier and Johann might either try to cooperate with Otto or he might invite Valdemar back as an alternative claimant.
 
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