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- Thread starter Straha
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Nader took a big chunk out of Possible gore votes with no Green party the people would most likely vote for Gore in 2000 if another environmentall based 3rd party didn't take its place.
Could this mean other things though? Will there still be politicians willing to tackle serious enviromental issues across the world? I've always seen the Green Party as a political party willing to do that. I could be wrong.....
Of course, this'll make already left leaning parties like the Democratic Party in the USA slightly stronger, in that their liberal base is more than shored up.
Of course, this'll make already left leaning parties like the Democratic Party in the USA slightly stronger, in that their liberal base is more than shored up.
Grey Wolf
Donor
Why would the Green movement NOT get going ? That is the problem here
OTL what has happened in the UK for instance is that the rational parts of the Green platform have been adopted by the major parties to a sufficient extent that the Green vote only works at local or European levels, not national.
The antecedents of the UK's Green party is the Ecology Party of the 1970s, earnest well-meaning people who used to come round canvassing and were tolerated but then ignored.
Maybe the question is why a fringe party moved towards being a national party then had its platform usurped ?
The answer would tie in to why the Green movement in Germany and the USA took off as it did.
Several answers come to mind, amongst them acid rain, CFCs and the Ozone Hole, Global Warming and climate change.
Basically, it became obvious that Man was damaging the Earth.
Grey Wolf
OTL what has happened in the UK for instance is that the rational parts of the Green platform have been adopted by the major parties to a sufficient extent that the Green vote only works at local or European levels, not national.
The antecedents of the UK's Green party is the Ecology Party of the 1970s, earnest well-meaning people who used to come round canvassing and were tolerated but then ignored.
Maybe the question is why a fringe party moved towards being a national party then had its platform usurped ?
The answer would tie in to why the Green movement in Germany and the USA took off as it did.
Several answers come to mind, amongst them acid rain, CFCs and the Ozone Hole, Global Warming and climate change.
Basically, it became obvious that Man was damaging the Earth.
Grey Wolf
The strange thing about the greens is, that they are politically left. Usually forces that work for prevention are conservative. This is true for ecological topics aswell. First ones to feel pity for environmental decline where the noble landowners in the 18th and 19th century.
Even today we can see a lot of ecological movements on the right wing (ÖDP in Germany for example). A lot suggested lolutions for enviromental problems look like dictatorshio more than like democracy.
If there were no greens, the ecological movement would have been adopted by the rights, but some 30 at least 20 years ago. Answers of the left wing to this would cause to many butterflies to make predictions about the elections mentioned.
Even today we can see a lot of ecological movements on the right wing (ÖDP in Germany for example). A lot suggested lolutions for enviromental problems look like dictatorshio more than like democracy.
If there were no greens, the ecological movement would have been adopted by the rights, but some 30 at least 20 years ago. Answers of the left wing to this would cause to many butterflies to make predictions about the elections mentioned.
Brilliantlight
Banned
Grey Wolf said:
The Greens are a tiny party in America, if it was a normal election in 2000 instead of an extremely close one the Greens would not have mattered at all.