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1) A wedding between Catherine and Henry will still be possible (as while the wedding was regarded as non consummated the dispensation issued for Henry and Catherine covered also the possibility who her wedding to Arthur was consummated).
2) The Duke of York will be the regent for the young King (likely ATL Henry VIII) and is not impossible who he and Katherine married (because Henry wanted Katherine and marrying him would have secured better her son’s crown)
3) Henry, Duke of York will be the new Prince of Wales and heir of his father (no way the Tudors will risk another Maud so close to the War of the Roses with an healthy male heir). For Katherine’s daughter you have three options: a) she marry her uncle the King b) she is sent in the church c) Henry’s eldest son is born early enough to marry Catherine’s daughter (pretty unlikely with Arthur dying at the OTL time)
Some more I may have briefly mentioned:
- Portugal manages to colonise Australia and New Zealand before the British
- The Russians manage to settle Western North America and then move from the Pacific Northwest to colonise Hawaii
- Central America industrialises before Europe or East Asia, leaving the US and Europe more agricultural and Mesoamerica more deeply tied to the US
- The US repatriate their slaves (and even free blacks) to Africa, and become the power that develops or controls that continent
- A conservative coup occurred in Russia in the 1910s, preventing the Bolshevik Revolution and perhaps (as I previously suggested for China) founding a new dynasty to replace the Romanovs
- see ‘Did the Russian Revolution Have to Happen?’ by Richard Pipes from The American Scholar Vol. 63, No. 2 (Spring 1994), pp. 215-238
- “West Austria” and “East Austria” are partitioned as Germany was – how would that lead up to the present
- Pakistan, rather than China or India, becomes Asia’s second industrial superpower after Japan
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But wouldn’t the Romans sooner or later
have returned? I’m afraid a Boadicea victory
would have just postponed- not altogether
prevented- the Roman conquest of Britain.
Brunei unites the Philippines, aside from Northern Luzon and Maguindanao which they keep as independent vassals.
Any TL that has a decisive British victory over the US in the War of 1812. Even better if it becomes a Canada wank.
South African civil war timelines. Especially if they turn into a free-for-all between "moderate" Whites and Coloureds vs radical Afrikaners vs Zulu vs Xhosa, with various other groups aligning as suits their interests.
In a Cold War context, so many potential interested parties:
In a Cold War context, so many potential interested parties:
- The Soviets (obviously), although their power projection is pretty low. Likely to support the Xhosa-dominated ANC.
- The Chinese, probably supporting the Zulus (Or any Maoist-oriented anti-apartheid group).
- The Cubans, more likely to give more active support than the Russians a la Mozambique and Ethiopia.
- The Americans, State Department likely supporting the moderates, whilst the CIA assists the Afrikaner nationalists.
- Various African neighbours (Botswana in support of the moderates, Mozambique in favour of the Zulu and Angola in favour of the ANC).
Personally I was always intrigued by Carthaginian victory scenarios. As much as I like Hannibal the First Punic War doesn’t get enough notoriety so POD’s involving that are cool. To me what’s most interesting is that Carthage winning either the First or Second Punic War is not going to lead to a total collapse of Rome, meaning that they are still around to play a major role after the war ends even if Carthage is the dominant player in the Med.
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Let’s see
Blacks winning the Russian Civil war
Austro-Hungary colonizing in Africa and or Asia
A Danube federation
The Irish potato famine getting worse and leading to a communist Ireland
Operation Market Garden being successful
Blacks winning the Russian Civil war
Austro-Hungary colonizing in Africa and or Asia
A Danube federation
The Irish potato famine getting worse and leading to a communist Ireland
Operation Market Garden being successful
That’s an interesting one. It would certainly mean a different culture for independent Africa or Asia, perhaps one that would be even more authoritarian yet more able to develop economically. The problem is that the Austro-Hungarian Empire, although almost uniformly natural-resource-poor, had such low development and fertile farmland (like Central America whose early industrialisation I have always though a very good alternate history) that it was not likely to industrialise as early as the coastal states of Europe.
I have noted this in a previous post, but absence of selection for hierarchical social structures means that the horse and camel (at least the horse) not going extinct in the Americas is more local protein and hence less development of civilisation.
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Like I always say on these sort of threads - Percy Bysshe Shelley lives a long life and becomes a British revolutionary leader leading the Chartist movement to become a radical populist republican movement.
To quote a passage from A Song to the Men of England:
"The seed ye sow, another reaps;
The wealth ye find, another keeps;
The robes ye weave, another wears;
The arms ye forge, another bears.
Sow seed—but let no tyrant reap:
Find wealth—let no imposter heap:
Weave robes—let not the idle wear:
Forge arms—in your defence to bear."
To quote a passage from A Song to the Men of England:
"The seed ye sow, another reaps;
The wealth ye find, another keeps;
The robes ye weave, another wears;
The arms ye forge, another bears.
Sow seed—but let no tyrant reap:
Find wealth—let no imposter heap:
Weave robes—let not the idle wear:
Forge arms—in your defence to bear."
He means Nestor Makhno and the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine, known as the Black Army, or simply Blacks.