Map Thread XXII

How did the Roosevelts obtain the title of Columbian Emperor?
They are one of the major dynasties of America, it's unknown where they came from as of yet. Though I must point out that in that map, the Emperorship is in the hands of the House of Washington, though the Roosevelts will take it eventually (and have likely held it before 1792 as well).
How was Belgium formed ITTL?
Belgium was created after the fall of Tomainist Netherlands (who went on a conquering spree in the 1930s and 1940s) by the Latin Bloc, in opposition to the European Union-Occupied Netherlands.
Is Norway in a personal union with Denmark? And if so, how long did it last for?
It is, we don't know when that started yet, but we know it ended in 1818.
Do the Habsburgs exist ITTL?
Yes and they currently rule in Argentina. The Habsburgs tried to get the throne of Austria around 1744 (as established by previous lore) but were beaten by the Eisenbergs.
What are the origins of the House of Windsor ITTL?
They are a branch of the House of Roosevelt, they secured control of Britain when King Patrick of the House of Stuart was deposed due to his unpopularity and his cousin Duke Quentin of the House of Roosevelt took over.
 
They are one of the major dynasties of America, it's unknown where they came from as of yet. Though I must point out that in that map, the Emperorship is in the hands of the House of Washington, though the Roosevelts will take it eventually (and have likely held it before 1792 as well).
So is Columbia an elective monarchy?
Belgium was created after the fall of Tomainist Netherlands (who went on a conquering spree in the 1930s and 1940s) by the Latin Bloc, in opposition to the European Union-Occupied Netherlands.
How did Tomainists took over the Netherlands and who is the ancestor of the Belgian royal family ITTL?
It is, we don't know when that started yet, but we know it ended in 1818.
When and how did Denmark's personal union with Scania-Gotland ended?
Yes and they currently rule in Argentina. The Habsburgs tried to get the throne of Austria around 1744 (as established by previous lore) but were beaten by the Eisenbergs.
How did the Habsburgs made to Europe and what happened to the Eisenbergs?
They are a branch of the House of Roosevelt, they secured control of Britain when King Patrick of the House of Stuart was deposed due to his unpopularity and his cousin Duke Quentin of the House of Roosevelt took over.
I'm assume that Patrick is the ancestor of the current Jacobite claimant and Duke of Windsor was the title that Quentin had before he became King of the United Kingdom?
 
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VEDRIX THE GREAT

In a world where Alexander the Great is never born, and his place is taken by a Roman named Faustus Vedrix, the struggle between the old and the new reaches its zenith.

In the side of the old, there is the fakhists, and the Empire of Nova Celtica, under the Emperor Radalf. As the Great War between the Greek Republic and the Celtic Empire reached its end, the peace of New Carthage seemingly sealed the fate of the latter and crowned the Helene Oligarchia as the strongest in the world, yet their debts after the war and the success in dethroning the Czar of Finnmark to establish a revolutionary order, proved the contrary. Swiftly, the Celts heard Radalf from the Nationalist People's Party and followed his steps to overthrow the oligarchies of Corinth as illegitimate and restore the order of harmony of the kings and emperors. On their side, were the Valkyrie orders in Skandel, and the Regency of Kairo, that embarked in a conquest that shall demonstrate the might of those who followed the legacy of Vedrix.

But at the side of the new, there is the Eurasian Socialist Federation, under Iakob Giorgadze, leading the future of the world under the word of the philosopher Araisgan. And with them, some of their uneasy allies, like the "land of the Aryans" in India, the kingdoms in Africa that seek to free themselves from the colonization of the Celts, or the Persians that once weakened by their overextension, have recovered. All of them shall overcome the bloodbath of the Empire, the brutality of the Wars, and the inefficiency of the Regencies. They shall join at the moment, for the struggle for a future is just starting.

But there is also the forgotten nation: China. As the conquests of the Japanese soon forced the Koreans to migrate en masse, the divisions were to be expected. However, between the rowdy governor of the Zhiaolin Clique, with Korean blood, with Chinese heart, and with Japanese loyalty, has opposed the destruction of China as a nation, the Paiking Government and its rusty yet moving machinery, the Chinese socialists under Kim Tse-li, and the Democratic ideologues in Xi, it is finally seeming that the half-millennium of disgrace is finally coming to an end, no matter the cost.

(Did you like it? For being my first shot, I think it's pretty ok. However, it bugs me that I represented an element of the old with simple numbers, and the regions of a modern, vanguard nation with Roman numbers.

Lastly, I also want to give special thanks to water123 for this absolutely useful post: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/so-you-want-to-make-a-worlda-tutorial.444452/).
Man, I love these romanticized ancient world map aesthetics so much!

By the way, I have this Romanticized Roman Empire "world" map sitting around for a long time, and I was unable to find who made it, this is also the only resolution that I was able to find it in, does anyone knows who made this map?, because I want more like it.
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So is Columbia an elective monarchy?
I'm honestly not sure what the deal is, I haven't been paying much attention to it as other players are much more well versed in Columbian politics.
How did Tomainists took over the Netherlands and who is the ancestor of the Belgian royal family ITTL?
The Tomanists are a Calvinist fundamentalist group founded in Helvetica (Switzerland), when Helvetica was defeated after they had their own conquest spree, some leaders fled to the Netherlands. As to how the Tomainists took power in Helvetica, they were just a homegrown group. The ancestors of the Belgian royal are the Karađorđević from Serbia, as the Ban of Bosnia (cousin of the King of Serbia) was granted the throne. The Saxe-Coburg-Gotha came to rule by inheriting the throne from the female line of Queen Marie in 1965.
When and how did Denmark's personal union with Scania-Gotland ended?
Same time Norway gained independence, 1818.
How did the Habsburgs made to Europe and what happened to the Eisenbergs?
The Habsburgs are European, I believe. The Eisenbergs fell to a communist revolution in 1923.
I'm assume that Patrick is the ancestor of the current Jacobite claimant and Duke of Windsor was the title that Quentin had before he became King of the United Kingdom?
Yes, and the Jacobites had a failed revolt in the 1930s. Quentin was actually the Duke of Antwerp. Windsor is just a made up name like in OTL.
 
The world in 1792 from a private reverse map game.

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So... Couple of questions:

- How did the idea of a republic spread to Asia and how did it formed, more specifically in China, Burma, and the Far East?

- What the hell's the Padar Khanate?

- How did the Lakhmid Kingdom come about?

- What in the literal name of Jesus is going on in Russia?

- HRE in southern Europe instead of Germany?
 
So... Couple of questions:

- How did the idea of a republic spread to Asia and how did it formed, more specifically in China, Burma, and the Far East?

- What the hell's the Padar Khanate?

- How did the Lakhmid Kingdom come about?

- What in the literal name of Jesus is going on in Russia?

- HRE in southern Europe instead of Germany?
Funnily enough all of your questions can pretty much be answered with "we don't know":
Republics might be a thing invented in Asia, we have talked about that but I don't think there's anything in the turns yet.
Padar is just there (I made it up and honestly I can't remember what it is but eventually it turns into Azerbaijan so probably Turkic?)
Russia is under the Azaqeli Dynasty which is probably Turkic but that's also a mistery nobody has solved yet.
And the HRE is actually the Holy Italian Empire, or HIE.
 
Sort of. Hindustan is mostly Hindu and some Muslims, few Sikhs, so there is a bit of a religious issue, which in turn leads to a more "colonial" sort of administrative control. That will change if a large enough proportion of the population - or at least a large enough proportion of the elites - convert to the Sikh faith.
This does raise questions as to what fraction of a polity’s defacto colonial or colonial territory is overseas/adjacent to count as “colonial”.

Even during the late 19th centuries, there were plans to formally administer Central Asia and Siberia as colonies

Also, if an Ottoman Empire with territories on three continents is ultranationalist (think pushing Turkish as sole secular language) and rules the Arab and Balkan parts as defacto colonies does the count?
 
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I'm honestly not sure what the deal is, I haven't been paying much attention to it as other players are much more well versed in Columbian politics.
If you don’t know if Columbia is a elective monarchy, maybe you could read some of the earlier turns or the supplementary material for this map game.
The Tomanists are a Calvinist fundamentalist group founded in Helvetica (Switzerland), when Helvetica was defeated after they had their own conquest spree, some leaders fled to the Netherlands. As to how the Tomainists took power in Helvetica, they were just a homegrown group.
Were the Tomainists responsible for the Helvetic War in the late 1870s?
The ancestors of the Belgian royal are the Karađorđević from Serbia, as the Ban of Bosnia (cousin of the King of Serbia) was granted the throne. The Saxe-Coburg-Gotha came to rule by inheriting the throne from the female line of Queen Marie in 1965.
Why was the Ban of Bosnia chosen to become King of Belgium and do any of the other Ernestine duchies exist ITTL?
Same time Norway gained independence, 1818.
Who were made the first monarchs of Norway and Scania-Gotland?
The Habsburgs are European, I believe. The Eisenbergs fell to a communist revolution in 1923.
Are the Eisenbergs still around in the present?
Yes, and the Jacobites had a failed revolt in the 1930s. Quentin was actually the Duke of Antwerp. Windsor is just a made up name like in OTL.
How did a Wittelsbach ended up as the current current Jacobite claimant and why did Quentin had a title for a city located in Belgium?
 
Funnily enough all of your questions can pretty much be answered with "we don't know":
Republics might be a thing invented in Asia, we have talked about that but I don't think there's anything in the turns yet.
Padar is just there (I made it up and honestly I can't remember what it is but eventually it turns into Azerbaijan so probably Turkic?)
Russia is under the Azaqeli Dynasty which is probably Turkic but that's also a mistery nobody has solved yet.
And the HRE is actually the Holy Italian Empire, or HIE.
I see.. so how's China doing rn? And what's happening in India?
 
What are the differences in Orthography?
Or is "Progressive orthography" just standardised Flemish?
They differ in the spelling of loan words. Preferential orthography generally maintains the spelling from the original language (cultuur, accent, frequent), while progressive orthography generally changes the spelling to be analogous to that of "native" words (kultuur, aksent, frekwent). The latter became more popular in Flanders because it makes the language more distinctive vis-à-vis French and essentially conceals the French origin of many loan words.
 
They differ in the spelling of loan words. Preferential orthography generally maintains the spelling from the original language (cultuur, accent, frequent), while progressive orthography generally changes the spelling to be analogous to that of "native" words (kultuur, aksent, frekwent). The latter became more popular in Flanders because it makes the language more distinctive vis-à-vis French and essentially conceals the French origin of many loan words.
Very interesting. I wonder if such a system is also discussed for Limburgish.
 
If you don’t know if Columbia is a elective monarchy, maybe you could read some of the earlier turns or the supplementary material for this map game.
Well you obviously have no way of knowing what the game has been like so I don't blame you, but the thing with Columbian history in the turns is that it's incredibly complex and also most of it happened while I wasn't making turns. I wish it was just as easy as searching for the word "Columbia" but so much has happened, raking through that it's not something I wanna do. If any of the other players see this and wanna answer I'm sure they'll know better.
Were the Tomainists responsible for the Helvetic War in the late 1870s?
Yes.
Why was the Ban of Bosnia chosen to become King of Belgium and do any of the other Ernestine duchies exist ITTL?
Thuringia exists I think. The Ban of Bosnia was chosen in order to keep the Karađorđević dynasty alive given the imminent fall of the Serbian Monarchy at the time.
Who were made the first monarchs of Norway and Scania-Gotland?
Members of houses Glucksburg and Bernadotte respectively.
Are the Eisenbergs still around in the present?
No.
How did a Wittelsbach ended up as the current current Jacobite claimant and why did Quentin had a title for a city located in Belgium?
No idea to either.
I see.. so how's China doing rn?
As of now, relatively well. Things get ugly in the later half of the 19th Century.
And what's happening in India?
Not much, people are starting to colonize but at this time there's still a bunch of native states.
 
Thuringia exists I think. The Ban of Bosnia was chosen in order to keep the Karađorđević dynasty alive given the imminent fall of the Serbian Monarchy at the time.
I assume that the Ban is the father of Queen Maria of Belgium?
Members of houses Glucksburg and Bernadotte respectively.
How did Scania-Gotland ended part of Sweden?

Some more questions:
  1. Did Hesse ruled Germany had any constituent monarchies?
  2. Were the Houses of Norton and Fremont still around by the Great War?
  3. What's the deal with the Jurassic Republic?
  4. What territory did the Grimaldis ruled over during the 19th century?
  5. When did the British monarch became King of Canada?
 
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