But you’re fine with the communists getting the same treatment?
Texas has a larger national guard than Mexico’s military. I’m pretty sure it won’t be losing territory to them.
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What communists? Are you just reacting to what I said or to what is in the maps? I don't see any communist surviving with a state.
But no, I'm not okay with that. Nazis are genocidal and should be dealt with, not left with their own state to genocide people in it. Communists can be judged on what they're currently doing because the ideology itself doesn't advocate for genocide.
West Virginia isn’t recognised, and Idaho has nukes, and I think it’s fair to recognise a state that has nukes since they will have some political weight in the continent....
Social democracy is communism, but we’re getting off track here.
Might want to reread Engels. Anyway, this is the map thread. I should have just PM’d.
eadmund
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So, just to be clear, you're not likening Maoists or whatever to neo-Nazis, you're likening social democrats to neo-Nazis?
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What? No, it isn't. This is agreed upon by both Marxists and actual Social Dems.
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That depends on what you consider terrorism since many leftist groups have their own guerilla groups and local militias and, in the past, assassinated many prominent industrialists. You could call that terrorism since it's "violence for political gain".
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Nope.
Agreed. Apologies. The correct response to not liking a map is to make one of your own. That would mean more maps for everyone. I failed in that regard.
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Did you take influence from Mattystereo's An American War on Deviantart? I've been noticing a lot of Second American Civil War Scenarios have lately.
You need to keep political arguments in Chat.
If you want to carry this on, do it there. Next post that carries on this debate after this is, at minimum, a week in the penalty box.
Why wouldn't Boston-Sacramento just roll over the rest of the country? A series of enclaves in the heart of the country and religious extremists and NeoNazis is serious egg on the face, especially if they're allowed to be nuclear armed. Further, what did the US based around the world do? Hawaii? Puerto Rico? Guam and other American territories?
My guess is the war wariness though it might be that either the US is waiting for Round 2 or for the others to collapse on themselves like in Texas.
Skallagrim
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That bold but is why. Someone typically isn't "allowed" to have nukes. You just don't always control whether they have them or not, and if they do have them... well, then "just rolling over them" might involve millions of your own people getting killed. Much better to isolate the loonies and hope they collapse due to mis-management.
As for the non-insane lesser states: well, maybe it's just the decent thing to do, you know, to respect their desire to remain independent? (More cynically: the re-unified USA is evidently a progressive country that actively suppresses conservatism, while most of the other successors tend to be more conservative states. If you absorb them, you get a lot of people who vehemently disagree with you inside your country. You'll have to either stop banning political parties to allow for genuine political diversity, or you'll have to face permanent IRA-like unrest... or you have to be a totalitarian police state. None of those would be appealing to the people in charge of the Boston-Sacramento regime.)
I'd more question how these Nazis are able to gain control not only of nuclear weapons but also the infrastructure to operate them effectively.
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The United Provinces of China in 1918 A.D. for the timeline Boll Weevil Blues.
After the Fuzhou Revolution of 1897, what was once a mere exile group of revolutionaries known as the Chuchengtang (from 主政黨, meaning Principle Party) became the ruling party of the entire former domain of the Qing Dynasty (excluding the new kingdoms of Mongolia, Altishar, and Tibet, who had slipped through the fingers of Han rule during the revolution), and their great ambitions were ready to become reality. While the leaders of the military were ambitious, they dared not to entertain the grandiose imperial ambitions of certain voices, and stepped aside to make way for the revolutionaries, seeing them as a more reliable paycheck than the Qing before. While the revolutionaries seemed ready to begin their endless agenda, they knew to tread lightly near the toes of tigers. Most local military cliques were allowed to keep hold of their provinces, so long as they paid their taxes and sent troops for the army. The United Provinces of China was born as a corrupt yet stable federal republic. In 1914, at the height of the Conflagration, the Liberationist Powers of Russia, France, and the United States offered the U.P.C. an offer they could not refuse: the return of the concessions in exchange for war against Britain and Portugal. By the end of 1915 the imperialists of Britain and Portugal had made peace, and China had retaken her coastal ports. However, like Britain, the world is badly bruised, and as the various cliques of the republic eye each other up, the leader of the United Provinces grows ill, the rival empires of Korea and Japan grow closer by the month, and the global economy seems ever more fragile, China is at a precipice, and 1919 will likely be an eventful year for the lands of the Far East.
After the Fuzhou Revolution of 1897, what was once a mere exile group of revolutionaries known as the Chuchengtang (from 主政黨, meaning Principle Party) became the ruling party of the entire former domain of the Qing Dynasty (excluding the new kingdoms of Mongolia, Altishar, and Tibet, who had slipped through the fingers of Han rule during the revolution), and their great ambitions were ready to become reality. While the leaders of the military were ambitious, they dared not to entertain the grandiose imperial ambitions of certain voices, and stepped aside to make way for the revolutionaries, seeing them as a more reliable paycheck than the Qing before. While the revolutionaries seemed ready to begin their endless agenda, they knew to tread lightly near the toes of tigers. Most local military cliques were allowed to keep hold of their provinces, so long as they paid their taxes and sent troops for the army. The United Provinces of China was born as a corrupt yet stable federal republic. In 1914, at the height of the Conflagration, the Liberationist Powers of Russia, France, and the United States offered the U.P.C. an offer they could not refuse: the return of the concessions in exchange for war against Britain and Portugal. By the end of 1915 the imperialists of Britain and Portugal had made peace, and China had retaken her coastal ports. However, like Britain, the world is badly bruised, and as the various cliques of the republic eye each other up, the leader of the United Provinces grows ill, the rival empires of Korea and Japan grow closer by the month, and the global economy seems ever more fragile, China is at a precipice, and 1919 will likely be an eventful year for the lands of the Far East.
Alternate UK. Apologies if it has been done before.
EDIT: Result of an alternate timeline, where the London based Palace & Parliament moves to Dublin following the 1916 Proclamation of the British Republic.
EDIT: Result of an alternate timeline, where the London based Palace & Parliament moves to Dublin following the 1916 Proclamation of the British Republic.
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