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Very cute - especially the Kingdom of Two Tripolis, which I guess was just too awesome to resist.

Is the Empire of Siciliy Norman?

Also...how are there "united emirates" in the Sinai? What caused people to, you know, live there? IOTL the Sinai at this time was maybe a few thousand Bedouin.
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Sicily is certainly Norman-lead, but still majority Italian.

The Sinai, being the frontlines of the First Crusade, was heavily inflexed by jihading Muslims, most of which decided to settle down indefinitely. As well as that, the network of Forts and Walled areas (Denoted by gray Lines, i forgot to mention...) need manning. Since the Fatimids think that the Alexandrians are the greater current threat, they have let the forts and nomads become self governing. Severel "Emirs" have taken command of various areas, sections of trade route, etc., though they all are still united, and the line between being an ally and being part of the Caliphate is thin.
 
My MotF Entry.
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In 1917, the Communists revolted, and managed to capture a large part of European Russia. Unlike OTL, the revolution failed to catch on elsewhere in Russia, and the people in Asian Russia took up arms to defend themselves against the Red Wave. In the confusion, Ukraine, Trans-Caucasia, Chechnya, Finland, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and the Baltic States declared independence. Soon after, Finland and Belarus were overwhelmed by a surge of Communist sympathizers, and had their governments overturned.

By 1920, the chaos was ebbing away, and the skirmishes became smaller border clashes on the rough boundary lines of the new nations. Finally, in 1923, each new nation's government was stabilised, and their borders demarcated, except for Chechnya, which was still rife with rebellions.

This map is written in Russian, which I am not fluent in, so just pretend the errors don't exist, ok? :D

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@Saepe Fidelis: What do you mean?

@KCammy: I do indeed, I'll be uploading a few things tonight, like this map, and some of my older ones.

http://canyon-jumper.deviantart.com/

Not a whole lot on here yet, but that'll be changed tonight after I get back from work.

The Kazakh-Turkmenistan border is exactly the same as OTL's, even though the borders of the Central Asian Republics were designed in the 1920s specifically to make absolutely no sense and thus keep them weak and dependent on Russia..

Not to mention the borders of Belarus, Armenia (Nagorno Karabakh), Abkhazia, Chechnya and really the entire Caucasus, despite it being one of the most diverse and politically troublesome areas in the world (all the craziness of the Balkans, just smaller and closer to Russia).
 

Esopo

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Tl 191: after an early victory in Europe, the Entente helps the CSA to defeat the USA. The following harsh peace leads to political turmoils in both the USA and Germany, while russia barely manages to survive ethnic and political riots.

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Tl 191: after an early victory in Europe, the Entente helps the CSA to defeat the USA. The following harsh peace leads to political turmoils in both the USA and Germany, while russia barely manages to survive ethnic and political riots.
That really portrays the dilemma shown in TL-191. If the CP wins, then imperialism dominates Europe, yet the natioin that did the alt-Holocaust got punished. It is the opposite for the Entente victory.


BTW, didnt NM and AZ get merged, as well as the Dakotas?
 

Esopo

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That really portrays the dilemma shown in TL-191. If the CP wins, then imperialism dominates Europe, yet the natioin that did the alt-Holocaust got punished. It is the opposite for the Entente victory.


BTW, didnt NM and AZ get merged, as well as the Dakotas?

Damn, you are right :(
btw,i plan to make some sequels, Gordon McSweeney need some love :D
 
Tl 191: after an early victory in Europe, the Entente helps the CSA to defeat the USA. The following harsh peace leads to political turmoils in both the USA and Germany, while russia barely manages to survive ethnic and political riots.

Italy was neutral in TL-191, they became spectacularly wealthy selling weapons to both sides.
 
The Kazakh-Turkmenistan border is exactly the same as OTL's, even though the borders of the Central Asian Republics were designed in the 1920s specifically to make absolutely no sense and thus keep them weak and dependent on Russia..

Not to mention the borders of Belarus, Armenia (Nagorno Karabakh), Abkhazia, Chechnya and really the entire Caucasus, despite it being one of the most diverse and politically troublesome areas in the world (all the craziness of the Balkans, just smaller and closer to Russia).

Not just that, he's got administrative borders within Russia that were created in the late 1920s and the Kalmikya Republic which wasn't established until 1957!

Not to mention the slight inconsistencies between the naming of countries. Siberia, and Poland have the full title, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan (which is likely to simply be Turkestan at this point) are just the name itself.

Also, I'm not sure of the likelyhood of it still being the USSR when the demographics are approx. 90% Russian, and the enclaves and indented borders with Siberia seem a bit odd as well.
 

Vexacus

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Felt like cross-posting this, considering the time that went into it. General foreign policy polarization of my The Fifty First State Timeline (see sig) on January 1, 2001. It's minor-ASB, but less so than some maps in this thread.

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For those who haven't read it, here's some of the cool things that happened (spoilers):

  • Multiple nations (Japan, the UK, Poland, etc.) are peaceably annexed into the United States after extended negotiations.
  • Chinese-Allied War in 1992 over the formal independence of Taiwan, culminating in a costly Allied Victory.
  • No Rwandan genocide, MPLA victory in Angola, no democratization of Nigeria in the 1990s.
  • Sadam Hussein and Castro deposed in popular coups.
  • Different breakup of Yugoslavia, no Bosnia-Herzegovina.
The map outlines the current de facto and de jure foreign policy alignments of the nations of the world. A nation which is outlined as an ally of a major power is less of an ally than one which is filled in (e.g., Vietnam is less of an ally of the United States than Indonesia is, which is less of an ally than major non-NATO ally Thailand). Sicily, Israel, Liberia, and Cuba are all extremely close to the United States and thus are filled in with the US color to indicate that relationship.

The EU and East African Community are both outlined thanks to their mutual defense agreements. Both are relatively neutral with respect to the rising polarization of the globe.
What happened to the Imperial Family of Japan when it became a US state?
 

Esopo

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Sequel: in 1929 the stock market crashes, and, leading the USA to be ruled by the nazi-like Gordon McSweeney's Freedom Party, which depicts catholics, mormons, socialists, eastern and southern european immirants and blacks as the traitors which stabbed in the back the US in the war. Mc Sweeney begins the rearmament (in violation of the terms of the peace treaty), introduces limitations to the civil rights of social groups he considers "un-american", , reoccupies Ohio, helps Mexico's emperor against republican rebels during the Mexican civil war, and finally manages to obtain a plebiscite which reintegrates West Virginia and half of Missouri in the USA.

In Europe, Ernst Rohm's NSDAP fails in its attempt to seize the power in Germany. Also Italy and remains democratic, while Russia has to fight a defensive war against Japan for China (remeber: its tl 191 japan, its crazy :D). The war becomes after a few months a bloody stalemate.
In Anatolia turk guerrilla proves to be an hard fight for italians, british and french occupation troops.

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@Ares96, Saepe Fidelis, Alex Richards: I got the borders from the basemap. I probably shouldn't have used it as the only source though.

EDIT: oh, lol, now that I look at it, it has the dates right on the map :p

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