Larger Rump South China (ROC) Retains as UN Security Council

Lincoltonbro

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In October 1949, the Nationalists troops implemented major traps near Maoming to prevent the communists invasion of Leizhou Peninsula. The Nationalists dug the trenches and the secret hidden artillery gun strikes to the incoming waves of PLA soldiers planned toward Maoming. Roads were filled with stones and muds to slow down or impede the aggressor PLA division. The frightened hundreds of thousands of Kuomintang troops managed full resistance by building strong barricade road and countryside defenses to inflict heavy casualties on PLA soldiers who almost break the Nationalists defense line. After several months, the PLA couldn't dislodged the larger remnants Nationalists troops who created a long distance of widely counterattacks at Maoming and Leizhou Peninsula. By early summer 1950, the PLA called for the truce on the ceasefire and never invaded the rest of remnants Nationalists defenses at Leizhou Peninsula region.

Unfortunately, the larger PLA infantry soldiers and volunteer soldiers from Guangdong and Fujian were unable to mobile the relocation to northern China to assist the counterattacks against UN and American forces at North Korea. This resulted Allied victory on Korean War with capitalism democratic reunify Korean Peninsula under name of country "Republic of Korea". Mao Zedong chose not to intervene in North Korea and let the remnants exhausted North Korean soldiers retreat to north of Yalu River at Manchuria region. Kim II Sung's family and some military representatives was forced exile to Moscow after long flight from Beijing to Moscow.

With the larger remnants of Republic of China (South China) consisted of Taiwan, Hainan, Southern Yunnan (Kunming), and SW Guangdong region (Leizhou Peninsula and Maoming), the uneasy PRC faced ambivalent challenges on disputable issues of "one-China" policy on impede the eligibility for UN Security Council. It would be impossible to introduce the UN General Assembly Resolution 2758 since the United States claimed the largely remnants of South Chinese anti-communist regions considered to be the real define explanation "legitimate" of China. Therefore, based on United States UN Security Council Seat's perspective on democratic one-China policy, the UN Secretary General decided not to have discussion further about recommendation to replace ROC on UN Security Council Seat in 1971.

Could Larger Remnants of Republic of China territories, Taiwan, Hainan, southern Yunnan (Pu'er City), and southwest Guangdong region (Leizhou Peninsula and Maoming city) retained UN Security Council seat throughout 1970s and 1980s based on idealistic principle of "one-China" policy? How would it impact on Hong Kong's autonomy status after 1997?
 
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Lincoltonbro

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Map of the Stronger Remnants Holdout of South China (Nationalists Republic of China) after the Chinese Civil War 1975
The United States classified South China's region administration as Yunnan province, "Free Guangdong Area", Hainan Administered Region, and Taiwan.
 
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Lincoltonbro

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The Tai-Pan said:
I have a hard time imaging such small areas holding out against the Communists. They are hardly going to allow a land border with a rival claimant to legitimacy.
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This would be Nationalists troops major teamwork to secure the border defense line in late 1949 to smashed down the incoming PLA waves, assumed the Nationalists devised concise smaller territorial border defense at SW Guandong and majority at Yunnan to protect the legitimate holdout of democratic "Free China".
 
tonycat77

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ROC has a much stronger air force, can keep the PRC at bay.
Although i doubt they could hold out on the mainland for long, i'd see at max only Hainan having any chance of being held for the long term.
 

Alanith

I think the minimum size you'd need would be the ROC managing to hold the Yangtze River. A few islands and some tiny coastal enclaves are not going to keep the SC seat under Taipei's control.
 

Lincoltonbro

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tonycat77 said:
ROC has a much stronger air force, can keep the PRC at bay.
Although i doubt they could hold out on the mainland for long, i'd see at max only Hainan having any chance of being held for the long term.
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Also the South China need to developed long haul airplane flight from Taiwan or Leizhou “Free China” to Yunnan via connected corridor South Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand, and Burma either one or two stops to transferred deployed South Chinese troops to protect Yunnan region
 
Remitonov

Remitonov

Yunnan and Leizhou are lost. Anywhere that's connected by land is going to be overrun by the PLA by sheer numbers in short order. Even Hainan is on razor's edge due to communist guerrillas operating on the island since the Japanese occupation. In the OTL Battle of Hainan, these guerrilas were instrumental in scouting the beachheads and harassing the Nationalist garrison, and they had ready allies among the oppressed minorities. The Nationalists will need to figure out how to root out these cells somehow to make amphibious landings by the PLA as hard as they were in Kinmen, and that's easier said than done.
 
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Lincoltonbro

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Remitonov said:
Yunnan and Leizhou are lost. Anywhere that's connected by land is going to be overrun by the PLA by sheer numbers in short order.
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Maybe the nationalists need to hold on southwest GD including Yangjiang town to ensure the largely holdout rump South China with the sufficient manpower of counterattack tactics with the better ambushes against largely incoming forward PLA forces, but it has to be long-term timetable around early 1950 (maybe the American sent limited expeditionary forces soldiers and some marine soldiers to defend southwest Guangdong, including Yangjiang town with the promise of largely military supplies incoming to Kuomintang Leizhou Peninsula). The US needs stronger voices to allow the plan on final rump holdout.
 
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Remitonov

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Lincoltonbro said:
Basically,

Maybe the nationalists need to hold on southwest GD including Yangjiang town to ensure the largely holdout rump South China with the sufficient manpower of counterattack tactics with the better ambushes against largely incoming forward PLA forces, but it has to be long-term timetable around early 1950 (maybe the American sent limited expeditionary forces soldiers and some marine soldiers to defend southwest Guangdong, including Yangjiang town with the promise of largely military supplies incoming to Kuomintang Leizhou Peninsula). The US needs stronger voices to allow the plan on final rump holdout.
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What manpower? Most of China's manpower is available to the communists, and alienated by decades of KMT misrule. What tactics? Staying on the mainland is no longer sound once the communists take over most of it, and it'll be more sound to abandon the mainland coast to defend the outlying islands where the PLA can't just run on water. What US support? The US would not want to send men to be trapped in another Bataan-style peninsula when there are more viable areas to defend like islands. The communists will know better than to leave potential staging areas unattended, and again, there aren't any bodies of water to stop them from taking Leizhou.
 

Lincoltonbro

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Well the Nationalists remnants of Taiwan and Hainan need to cooperate together to resolved some forms of democratic unity in an effort to maintain the cultures and effective navy sailing to protect the offshore islands. I think Hainan would be best choice for secondary holdouts with the Midway toward there the ROC Dongsha Islands to patrol the safe naval sovereignty.
 
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