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I suppose Bayh could eek out another four years just so Rummy can come riding in the 1980 election.
I wonder what a moderate Rumsfeldia would be like.
Hopefully better than the shitstorm that occurred in Gumbo.
I suppose Bayh could eek out another four years just so Rummy can come riding in the 1980 election.
I wonder what a moderate Rumsfeldia would be like.
SergeantHawk has made a great graphic for this TL:
Update tonight.
Who are all the people? I recognize most of them, but not whoever's between Bayh and Johnson or the two between Wallace and Romney.
J. Millard Tawes is the one between Johnson and Bayh,
and the two between Wallace and Romney, are Nelson Rockefeller and Barry Goldwater.
IllinoisSox said:What if the 1975-76 Swine Flu Epidemic never happened?
LordYule said:Bayh still had a lot of problems to deal with. But the Flu/Vaccination fiasco really hurt him at the very least the opening shots of 1976 will be more interesting.
GorgonQueen said:Could it kill the anti-vaccine movement?
Northumbrian said:}searches{
Shit that was mishandled. It started at an ARMY BASE and spread? It's the same strain as 1918 for Christ's sake! And then that shit with the vaccines. No wonder you yanks are so anti-vaccine. That set back immunization so far.
R said:That's good.
LordYule said:Eh. Its a complex issue.
Northeastumbrian said:}rage{
LordYule said:Back on topic.
Helpful to Bayh, might increase his polling. Any effect on the GOP race?
GorgonQueen said:Reagan jumps in? IDK.
Say maybe it makes Bayh less desperate so he doesn't push the Primary Reform?
Spanish Flu? In 1976?
But look, the south is lining up GOP! A full 2 elections sooner!
Viper said:Would anyone be interested in a game based on the 1976 GOP convention?
Reggy said:How based?
Are we minor candidates trying to get ourselves drafted?
Are we the OTL big players?
Are we our own characters heavily based off of Tower, Mathias, Buckley etc?
Are we delegates backing someone? Helping out Mary Crisp?
Viper said:The last one. Playing as candidates is done a lot. We'd be delegates at the convention, or maybe GOP officers. Our goal would be to convince the candidates to back one another in hopes of having a prayer in November.
BigJohn said:But if its OTL it isn't terribly interesting, despite the hopes of Crisp, Tower was the only decent option. No one would commit suicide with Brooke. Mathias had Brooke's delegates most likely down the line but there was really no other place for him to get. Buckley's young but he just jumped on board the GOP train from the NY Conservatives so the party apparatus isn't behind him. That leaves Tower, Buckley will back him for a cabinet slot (he knows he has little chance in 1980). With those delegates, and soon to be chairmen George Bushes backing he becomes the establishment candidate. It might not always be the first ballot but nine times out of ten its Tower.
Reigndeer said:The issue with your idea GorgonQueen, is that this kind of good polling wasn't even a twinkle in its mother's eye yet. And the Give 'Em Hell strategy was only created because Truman seemed so unpopular. So he needs to be popular to not do that and create such scenario. Maybe he could take the lead of Dewy had a scandal or something. This is a hard question, a full on attack strategy almost always works on an aloof opponent.
LordYule said:It can backfire if you overplay your hand and look like a whiny guy.
GorgonQueen said:Good Point, both of you.
LordYule said:It's even worse if you don't have the personality to do it. Then you come across as pathetic when you debate, though that isn't a problem in '48.
R said:You mean calling your opponent a drunk on national television and implying not so subtly that he'll kill us all is a gaffe?
SHOCKING!
Reigndeer said:I remember that. That was my first year voting.