In this country , it is good to kill an admiral from time to time

Sweden musters its forces (Scandinavia 1923)



The mobilisation of the Swedish forces was something the officers serving President-for-life Gunnarsson had years to prepare for. Thus when on February 12 the plans to muster regulars and reserves were given, there was nothing left to improvisation and chance. The propaganda of Stockholm, already everywhere, was tripled in intensity. Radios, newspapers, and political spokesmen all reminded the population the long list of enmities the Swedish population had to be angry at the Danish and the Norwegians. The Anarchists who had struck at the President-for-life and the other governmental figures were ‘revealed’ to be trained by Copenhagen and Oslo.

Three hundred and thirty thousand men would form the heart of the army which would march south and crush all opposition on its path. It could count on two ‘armies’ of fifty-four modern tanks each, hundreds of artillery guns, and over one hundred and ten war-purpose aircrafts. The Swedish Navy had modernised too, and would play its part with one cruiser, six destroyers, three submarines, and many minelayers and smaller auxiliary boats.

Naturally, these preparations were about as discreet as an elephant into a porcelain shop, and Denmark was prompt to mobilise in retaliation. And as many strategists waiting the whims of their ‘elected’ dictator had warned, Denmark had a sizeable numerical superiority, the capacities of Copenhagen allowing it to call five hundred and twenty thousand men under the Danish banners, supported by four ‘brigades’ of forty-two tanks each. The Danish air force was outnumbering the one of their northern neighbour in a similar manner. It didn’t on the sea, but it was due to the appeasement policy following the Great War, and even then, Denmark had still seven destroyers and plenty of shipyards to build more.

None of this was unexpected. The orders of battle varied year from year, but the sad reality – from a Swedish point of view – was that Denmark in all likelihood would not need Norway to defeat Sweden conventionally. Of course, since Norway existed and had just declared to the entire world they were going to enter a personal union with their Danish neighbours, their military regulars could be counted to join the ‘fun’, worsening a perilous situation to an entirely new level.

This was why in many aspects, the majority of the Western European governments judged a war unlikely anywhere near the Scandinavian theatre. Assuredly, no student of past history was going to guarantee a certain victory, but things weren’t looking good at all for Sweden. The more time passed, the more their neighbours were able to erect new defensive positions and improve the old ones. And besides, mobilising armies of that size was always a costly endeavour. And on that field too Denmark could beat Sweden. The merchant navy of Christian X was considerable, and Danish and non-Danish goods were transported from South-eastern Asia to the Caribbean Sea and many other water-accessible harbours whatever the season. If it came to a war of attrition, Denmark could endure it for several years; the Great War had proven it could do that against the Grande Entente. Olaf Gunnarsson was frightening neither the King of Denmark nor his people, and there was even a small rising sentiment among the information services that maybe, just maybe, it was time to free the Swedish from the tyrannical rule of the ‘President-for-life’.

There was also the fact most of the world attention was focusing on Belgrade being destroyed street-by-street with Russian artillery. But at the end, it was not incorrect to say most of Europe was calculating how long Gunnarsson was going to play with his baton of ‘Supreme Marshal of Sweden’ before abandoning his utopian ideas of conquest. Poland and Saxony didn’t wish to involve themselves in this quarrel when the bear was unleashed in the Balkans, Westphalian politicians were inclined to support Denmark economically, but considered neutrality best, as did their French patrons, and as far as the English public was concerned, the last world conflict had best be the last time they sent their young men to die on Scandinavian soil.

The general mood was of condescension towards Sweden. If the ‘impartially elected President-for-life’ desired to mistake Anarchists for Danish agents in order to provoke a war, so be it. But Olaf Gunnarsson would have to do it alone. And behind heavy doors, acid remarks advised the Swedish diplomats they wouldn’t find any help should they return after instigating a new conflict. Not when they had participated in the ‘Finland cake’ being divided between the Tsarina and themselves.

It was one of those tragic turns of history that most of the representatives sent by Stockholm were in reality in semi-disgrace, whether they knew it or not. Gunnarsson had no faith in Saxony, which he tended to nickname ‘the failed would-be Empire’ in his speeches, and now that an attempted assassination had scarred him, the comments were getting nastier.

No, the President-for-life did not think the remnants of the Central Alliance were up to the stratagems he had played in his mind. This was why less than twenty-four hours after the mobilisation was ordered, the Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs was landing at Saint Petersburg.

The Russian Empire was short on true allies in Eastern Europe, and Olaf Gunnarsson didn’t care about Serbia. Why not sign a deal which would not benefit both countries immensely?
 
Three hundred and thirty thousand men would form the heart of the army which would march south and crush all opposition on its path. It could count on two ‘armies’ of fifty-four modern tanks each, hundreds of artillery guns, and over one hundred and ten war-purpose aircrafts. The Swedish Navy had modernised too, and would play its part with one cruiser, six destroyers, three submarines, and many minelayers and smaller auxiliary boats.

Naturally, these preparations were about as discreet as an elephant into a porcelain shop, and Denmark was prompt to mobilise in retaliation. And as many strategists waiting the whims of their ‘elected’ dictator had warned, Denmark had a sizeable numerical superiority, the capacities of Copenhagen allowing it to call five hundred and twenty thousand men under the Danish banners, supported by four ‘brigades’ of forty-two tanks each. The Danish air force was outnumbering the one of their northern neighbour in a similar manner. It didn’t on the sea, but it was due to the appeasement policy following the Great War, and even then, Denmark had still seven destroyers and plenty of shipyards to build more.
I wonder which countries have the most tanks.

We might see major tank battles a decade before OTL!
 
Poland would also be a major tank power if only to counter Russia and because the local geography enabled it. Not so sure about Hungary-Austria but they could compensate with a serious fighters and bombers force, partially tailored as anti-tank force. Britain would probably choose this solution and not go with tanks (except some unit specialized in anti-tank warfare) they are after all first and foremost a naval power, not a land power. The one country I have no idea about is China, we know they are building a big naval force, we know nothing about their land force.
 
Apologies if this comes a bit out of nowhere, but I was re-reading parts of this TL and just noticed something.

When introduced, the Dual Republic of Hungary-Austria was given a capital at Bratislava (which, as stated at this point, sits indeed nicely between Vienna and Budapest). However, in the following posts, when said Republic was refered to by its capital, it is the town of Regensburg which is consistently used. And said town is, if I am not mistaken, in Bavaria.

Is it a copy-paste mishaps, a plot twist in this TL that I missed or another "Regensburg" in a more appropriate location?
(Maybe some IRL Bavarian conspiracy to rule all the worlds, starting by an ATL Austria-Hungary? :p)
 

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Apologies if this comes a bit out of nowhere, but I was re-reading parts of this TL and just noticed something.

When introduced, the Dual Republic of Hungary-Austria was given a capital at Bratislava (which, as stated at this point, sits indeed nicely between Vienna and Budapest). However, in the following posts, when said Republic was refered to by its capital, it is the town of Regensburg which is consistently used. And said town is, if I am not mistaken, in Bavaria.

Is it a copy-paste mishaps, a plot twist in this TL that I missed or another "Regensburg" in a more appropriate location?
(Maybe some IRL Bavarian conspiracy to rule all the worlds, starting by an ATL Austria-Hungary? :p)
Think the austro german name for bratislava was pressburg ?(iirc).
 
Alright, stupid question. What happened to the Dutch in this timeline? I remember reading this thread in the long ago, but stopped when the Netherlands ceased to exist or something. There are no threadmarks to easily check, so if someone would be so kind.
 
Alright, stupid question. What happened to the Dutch in this timeline? I remember reading this thread in the long ago, but stopped when the Netherlands ceased to exist or something. There are no threadmarks to easily check, so if someone would be so kind.
i think that might have been prussia
 
Think the austro german name for bratislava was pressburg ?(iirc).
A quick search didn't bring any mention of pressburg in this TL.
What happened to the Dutch in this timeline?
As I understand things:

Some fled to Cape Republic (which later turned into the Drakan Empire) or the Batavian Kingdom (dismembered after the Great War which ended in 1902; Singapore might be the only remnant with a significant Dutch elite).

Those who stayed either ended swallowed by the French, or bound in the Frenkenstein monster that was Dutch Germany. The last one also ended dismembered after the Great War, split between France, England and the city-state of Amsterdam. From the maps, it seems that both France and England took parts where there might have been Dutch populations (and also German populations, but this is not the point).

So, right now (1923), the Dutch descendants are:
  • living in a very reduced nation-state (Amsterdam)
  • being assimilated by France and England (former Netherlands outside of the city-state of Amsterdam, and the now-French parts of the former Batavian Kingdom)
  • ruling former colonial nations (Drakan Empire and Singapore)
  • or cursing their ancestors that chose to settle in that part of the Batavian Kingdom (Aceh, Brunei, Granadan and Carolinan parts of the former Batavian Kingdom); that is, if any Dutch survived there
 
Iron, Ice and Fire (Europe 1923)


To say the Russian government had long expected to support Olaf Gunnarsson was kind of like saying France had long contemplated invading China via the Himalayan passes of Tibet: many people couldn’t say it without chuckling in public.

Granted, unlike Denmark and Norway, Russia had an ambassador residing in the city of Stockholm. And there was a non-insignificant trade existing between the ‘Republic’ and the Empire.

But Tsarina Anastasia I was not by any means a great friend of Olaf Gunnarsson. In fact, according to the courtiers and the ministers, the supreme ruler of Russia had taken extremely badly several remarks of the Swedish President-for-life, and obviously those mentioning how women were unfit to rule figured at the top of the list of dislikes of the Romanov sovereign.

As a result of these diplomatic tensions, Foreign Minister Christer Karlsson was received politely but coldly once he landed on Russian soil. Russia considered Swedish iron an excellent product for its civilian and military industry, something particularly important as the ‘anti-anarchist operations’ were far more complicated than any pre-war planning had accounted for.

But Russia and Sweden were hardly allies. Gunnarsson and his friends’ loud rhetoric they must reconquer the Swedish Empire had been badly received in Anastasia’s court. One look at some old maps after all was sufficient to realise that Moscow ruled over more territories confiscated from Sweden than Norway and Denmark combined.

To make it worse, Christer Karlsson was not a secondary figure in Sweden, despite foreign diplomacy being something the Republic of Sweden was notoriously poor at; he was easily the four or fifth most important man of the government – not counting Olaf Gunnarsson himself. Admittedly this was more because Gunnarsson was a distant cousin and the two had been friends since childhood than any aptitude Karlsson had ever held for the job.

Not that the Swedish Minister had any reason to be ashamed; his counterpart the Russian Minister for Foreign Affairs had been chosen exactly on the same criteria.

One might have almost thought this would create a splendid friendship, but one would be wrong. Besides, the Swedish ambassador invited at the Russian court had narrowly missed being thrown out of the country twice by 1923, and several ministers were trying their best to win the bet of expelling the Gunnarsson supporter before the month was over.

As one might imagine given this information, the task of Karlsson was nothing close to a done-deal. Some analysts would comment afterwards that if Belgrade’s resistance wasn’t a day or two from complete annihilation, Karlsson would have returned to Stockholm without being presented to the Tsarina.

That didn’t mean the audience was a succession of joyful greetings and effusions about how ungrateful the Danish could be.

Olaf Gunnarsson wanted troops to help him conquer Denmark, or at least to generate enough distractions that the Denmark-Norway coalition had to look elsewhere and be unable to muster its full strength against Stockholm.

The problem from a Russian point of view was that most of the ‘mercenaries’ and ‘volunteer groups’ which were at the Imperial Crown’s disposal were already engaged in Serbia, and the Generals surrounding their sovereign were reluctant to send other forces in their stead. Any move which saw Russian citizens advance westwards was going to meet the hostility of Poland and several other nations. Russia had still a large margin of superiority militarily...as long as it ordered full mobilisation. And right now on February 14, Russia had not done so. The moment it did, every Russian neighbour was likely going to panic, the economy would suffer more than the huge sums of money diverted for the military suggested, and while no Russian would admit it, the situation in the ‘Grand Duchies’ wasn’t exactly good enough to consider new land annexations.

The short version was that Anastasia I was willing to give thousands of mercenaries of Gunnarsson, but Stockholm was going to pay a heavy price for them. The sum demanded might include the cost it would take Moscow to withdraw said troops in good order, transport them north, and give them bonus pay too while they were at it.

It was a scandalous high sum, all told.

So scandalously high, indeed, that the words chosen by Minister Karlsson were not exactly respectful towards the ruler of an Empire widely considered the second most powerful nation on Earth.

A Russian Admiral proposed ‘loaning’ a couple of Russian cruisers and their escorts along with troop transports so that Sweden could at all moment threaten Copenhagen with an amphibious assault behind the frontlines, but the proposed price was not meeting any definition of ‘affordable’ for the Swedish budget. Worse, during the post-audience dinner, Karlsson, passably drunk, made clear he couldn’t wait for Anastasia’s Heir, Grand-Duke Nicholas to ascend the throne of Russia.

Added to several other insults, his conduct was absolutely unacceptable to any self-respecting sovereign nation.

The envoy of President-for-Life Gunnarsson was expelled from Russia and told informally it was better for him never to return to any land ruled by the Tsarina.

Obviously, the news weren’t received calmly at Stockholm. It wasn’t just the reality of the ‘crushing Denmark-Norway’ plans being set aflame before the first shell was fired; Anastasia I was making it clear too that Russia was going to find alternatives to Swedish iron and several custom taxes would be implemented at the frontier. Moscow could largely afford it, as it began to withdraw its troops from devastated Serbia. The same couldn’t be said for Sweden, not when they had already ordered an impressive modernisation.

His pride wounded, Gunnarsson decided that if he couldn’t build his private Empire westwards, then it was better to look in the other direction. Christer Karlsson was sent away for a second diplomatic mission. To Warsaw.
 
So... Sweden is trying to bring Eastern Europe (and possibly the Ottomans and others at the same time) against Russia? Is it a domino sound that I'm hearing in China/Mandchuria? Maybe also coming from the Pacific Powers, now that I think about it...

It might be a good time being a popcorn producer in the French Empire (well, until someone does something stupid involving them, at least).
 
So... Sweden is trying to bring Eastern Europe (and possibly the Ottomans and others at the same time) against Russia? Is it a domino sound that I'm hearing in China/Mandchuria? Maybe also coming from the Pacific Powers, now that I think about it...

It might be a good time being a popcorn producer in the French Empire (well, until someone does something stupid involving them, at least).
I can indeed see the Chinese seeing this as the perfect moment to strike into Manchuria... and leading to the UPCA alliance going to war with China as a "last opportunity while they're busy with Russia" type of deal.
 
I can indeed see the Chinese seeing this as the perfect moment to strike into Manchuria... and leading to the UPCA alliance going to war with China as a "last opportunity while they're busy with Russia" type of deal.
Except the American alliance also want Russian territories : Hawaii and probably Alaska too. So they will need to choose.
 
I can indeed see the Chinese seeing this as the perfect moment to strike into Manchuria... and leading to the UPCA alliance going to war with China as a "last opportunity while they're busy with Russia" type of deal.
Except this won't be good considered how weakened Sweden and Poland are. The Chinese leaders aren't stupid and should only strike when they are sure Russia will lose or is too distracted.
 
Except this won't be good considered how weakened Sweden and Poland are. The Chinese leaders aren't stupid and should only strike when they are sure Russia will lose or is too distracted.
Poland wouldn't attack alone with just Sweden as a partner, they probably already have a secret alliance with Hungary-Austria, maybe with the Ottoman too if the enemy is Russia. Also if China go for it, Japan might as well (notably to gain Hawaii and the Hokkaido and the islands north of it and for good measure North Chosen)
I can see a problem coming here between the different enemies (who aren't in an alliance) of Russia because they might want the same lands or islands, there is potential to a big, fat, angry chaos which Bengal might use to further his conquest westward.
 
Poland wouldn't attack alone with just Sweden as a partner, they probably already have a secret alliance with Hungary-Austria, maybe with the Ottoman too if the enemy is Russia. Also if China go for it, Japan might as well (notably to gain Hawaii and the Hokkaido and the islands north of it and for good measure North Chosen)
I can see a problem coming here between the different enemies (who aren't in an alliance) of Russia because they might want the same lands or islands, there is potential to a big, fat, angry chaos which Bengal might use to further his conquest westward.
I'm pretty sure the alliance Poland has are defensive, especially the Ottomans who don't want to cease to exist. Russia is way too powerful for these countries to take on at this point considering what it has.
 
"The best defense is to attack" could be justified as in to attack before Russis is ready to crush us. Let me explain myself. I am not as sure as you of the marge that Russia have on the others, it is so big it takes a lot of money and time to "upgrade" its armies and Russia clearly have a lot of internal problems too, a lot of the money therefore need is diverted to keep order and I doubt the Serbian campaign was cheap and quite frankly didn't help the status of Russia as The Enemy to a long list of countries. The country is diplomatically isolated. This translated by Russia not having access anymore to the money of the Entente (France really but also the markets of the allies) which probably didn't help the internal matters. You need money to wage a simple one-front war, it become exponentially more costlier when you fought more than one war at the same time. But that is just my interpretation, I have often been proven wrong.
 
The Tragedy of Refugees (The Balkans at War 1923)



By mid-February, the pre-war Serbian Anarchist army was for all intents and purposes destroyed.

There was nothing which had survived on the regimental level, and even below that, it was becoming incredibly easier and easier to see ‘battalions’ which were the size of platoons.

The Anarchist movement had pledged to fight the Russian-Greek armies to the last man and woman. They had done their best to not be proven liars. And now the survivors saw the result.

The glory and the feeling of righteousness were utterly missing. Instead there was sheer despair. Serbia had not a population of six million inhabitants before they angered the Russian bear, and now the number of ‘Anarchist-citizens’ was decimated.

Hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children were dead. Those who survived were traumatised by the horrors of war, be they done by their ‘masters’ of Belgrade, or the Russian invaders. Atrocities were so common they were treated as the norm. Since the Anarchists’ Levellers had tried to use every body as an irregular soldier, the reprisals had been terrible, both for the true city fighters and the innocent.

Belgrade was a field of ruins. The bodies of tens of thousands of Serbians were thrown into the few mass graves the Russian armies dug when the weather permitted it.

The Serbian leaders didn’t surrender. Unfortunately for the people they had led into this folly, this just meant that when the Russian cannons stopped bombarding Belgrade, the Anarchist ‘resistance’ had suffered losses of nearly ninety-five percent. The Russian didn’t bother trying to negotiate or parley; the defenders had to prove they were willing to surrender first, and few companies trapped in the ruins were willing to do that.

But the sole and only nation to have espoused the Anarchist credo died nonetheless. That there was no surrender didn’t mean the Russians hadn’t the troops to control the country, especially when the Greek army had taken control of southern Serbia.

The Russian Generals hadn’t anticipated one thing, however.

As martial rule was enforced everywhere and the Russians behave as badly or worse than the Anarchists they were openly here to defeat, life was properly unbearable for the average Serbian family.

Despite winter, despite the last political officers urging to fight to the last bullet and the last child in a trench, thousands of families took everything they could carry and fled towards the only nation where the Russians had no power: Hungary-Austria.

Their arrival caused great scenes of consternation. Hungarians, Croatians, Austrians and the other minorities of the Republic had believed the first cohorts of refugees were the exception, not the rule.

Alas for this rather rosy view of the war, it wasn’t to be. Tens of thousands came as Belgrade was encircled and the ‘useless mouths’ were thrown out by the Anarchists’ Levellers. Tens of thousands more crossed the frontier after the capital’s fall and the Russian offensives pushed westwards.

The Dual Republican government didn’t like this situation at all. Nothing had been done to prepare the country for a torrent of refugees of this magnitude. Vienna and Budapest were quite wealthy by any reasonable standards, but they couldn’t absorb hundreds of thousands of foreign families.

And there was worse. If any had doubted there were Anarchists hiding in this crowd of refugees, the first assassinations on Hungarian officers stationed near the frontier generated panic and unreasonable hatred.

It didn’t matter a lot that many of these officers had abused their power to force themselves on young women and/or young men in exchange of papers to live a new life in Hungary-Austria, and that the killers likely didn’t believe in the Leveller doctrine anymore, being more concerned on acquiring food, water, and a roof to sleep when the Balkans’ winter claimed countless lives.

The Republic newspapers clamoured the enormous camps spreading close to the frontier were full of bloodthirsty anarchists waiting only for one chance to overthrow the legitimate government. Other countries, while more sympathetic, were not exactly showing the Hungarians aside in their haste to invite the exiled Serbians into their countries.

To make everything worse, the refugees weren’t welcome in Hungary-Austria, but the Russians didn’t desire their return either. Yes, it was true that an awful percentage of villages and little towns had been emptied by sheer terror and were now nothing but abandoned settlements, but the commanders on the ground were quite satisfied: the fewer potential Anarchists there were nearby, the easier it would be to attract trusty Russian colonisers once this war was over. Obviously, most of the officers sharing this opinion took great care to avoid mentioning it anywhere in the victorious communiqués they sent to the Tsarina.

This naturally created a spiral of distrust and confusion; while no complaint came from the Russian armies themselves – the decrease in ambushes and city murders was appreciated by the rank and file – the Hungarians had countless spies and a far better vision of what exactly Anastasia’s divisions were busy engineering in the provinces where they held total control.

The reports of General Denikin and many senior commanders had little resemblance with what the ambassadors complained about.

And of course, there was the major issue the Tsarina didn’t want the die-hard members of the Anarchists’ Levellers to return to lands her troops had bled to conquer. As the archives were destroyed and more or less everyone could be an Anarchist demagogue given the bureaucratic information available, there was no denying the majority of the people who had fled wouldn’t be authorised to return in the homes they had lived all their lives.

The affairs between central and eastern Europe were already incredibly tense, and really didn’t need this refugee crisis. But somehow, it got worse: the ambassador of the Dual Republic asked the most dangerous possible question possible.

When was Russia going to evacuate the now thoroughly destroyed Republic and allow a neutralised Republic to rebuild from the devastation they had inflicted?

The Russian answer was very evasive. The Tsarina, initially supportive of outright annexation, had changed her opinion and was tending towards dividing Serbia in two, minus a strip of land the Empire would give to Greece and a land corridor which would link the domains of Athens and the Grand Duchy of Transylvania. But there was a lot of political opposition: many Generals wanted Serbia, if only to be elevated to the rank of Great Dukes for their successes.

The government of Hungary-Austria believed immediately the worst: outright annexation was only a question of days. Less than forty-eight hours after their ambassador had his audience with the Tsarina, the Austrian foreign minister was on his way to Warsaw.
 
The government of Hungary-Austria believed immediately the worst: outright annexation was only a question of days. Less than forty-eight hours after their ambassador had his audience with the Tsarina, the Austrian foreign minister was on his way to Warsaw.
I'm betting my imaginary mansion that the foreign minister is going to get a terminal case of assassination on the way to Warsaw.

Anyway, thanks for the update, Antony. Glad to see that you're not abandoning this story.

I still want to complain about the lack of threadmark though.
 
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