In this country , it is good to kill an admiral from time to time
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VIVE LA FRANCE !
For the King and the Country !
Pour le Roi et la Patrie!
Indeed, indeed.
Vive La France!!!
En avant pour la Grande Victoire!!! Que nos Ennemis tremble devant nos Armées!!!
On another note, I'm hoping the treacherous louisiana finally get what is coming for it
Also, what is the state of French territories in French South America and Australia?
Edit: Still not enough Blue on this map...
That's the spirit!
French South America and Australia are generally third-rate colonies, the government is always trying to find more colonists, but until the last decades (where the prospect of new lands in North America and India has been getting scarcer) it was not promising. Now they manage to create qite a few towns and really develop the agriculture...but there are still very short on industry and must import a lot of tools from other parts of the French Empire.
To be fair, the Cape are somewhat the realistic versions of the Drakas. Drunk on slavery yes...but they do not believe they can win again and again against the entire world. And the fact they and their allies are outcasts on the diplomatic stage is a drawback they never manage to compensate fully.
Pour le Roi et la Patrie!
Indeed, indeed.
That's the spirit!
French South America and Australia are generally third-rate colonies, the government is always trying to find more colonists, but until the last decades (where the prospect of new lands in North America and India has been getting scarcer) it was not promising. Now they manage to create qite a few towns and really develop the agriculture...but there are still very short on industry and must import a lot of tools from other parts of the French Empire.
To be fair, the Cape are somewhat the realistic versions of the Drakas. Drunk on slavery yes...but they do not believe they can win again and again against the entire world. And the fact they and their allies are outcasts on the diplomatic stage is a drawback they never manage to compensate fully.
... it's going to be though in South America, In Australia the French can at least count on the Irish.
How is the demography of Africa with all the carnage and ethnic cleansing going on in the continent?
Edit: do France still use the Fleur de lys on a white background as a flag?
I'm kind of Hoping they put a bit more Blue in there...
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Good remark on Australia, though it is more the proximity with India and sea dominance which makes sure this area is not deemed particularly as risked by Paris (plus the Batavians problems of course)
You answered partially yourself to this question...Africa native population has taken many blows between the epidemics, the wars and the etnic cleansings.
It was a while, but France modified their flag under Louis XVI to include the blue on the left and the red on the right. The golden fleur de lys stays at the centre though, and the royal flags carried on ceremonies have still a white and colour one.
As a result, the most represented flag is the tricolour with a golden fleur de lys in the center and a black contour on the outside.
Allez les Bleus
We'd been waiting for the Next Big One for quite a while. Now it has come
We'd been waiting for the Next Big One for quite a while. Now it has come
A shame that we're ally to the english . Would have liked to invade them again
Nah, it's fine, it would have been difficult to Keep control of the Seas without the English
Nah, it's fine, it would have been difficult to Keep control of the Seas without the English
You mean the country that kills their admirals if they lose a single battle ? They are such a great help to control the sea
You mean the country that kills their admirals if they lose a single battle ? They are such a great help to control the sea
Hopefully they have grown out of this now
Now now, France has to protect her junior allies.A shame that we're ally to the english . Would have liked to invade them again
Being English, this is never something I would have had to consider writing OTL, (so far, from about 2020 onwards however...).
But that's something I've really enjoyed about reading this TL, it's been realistically handled and very well written. Realistically, how on earth did such a small country end up with such a huge Empire. OTL is ASB.
Viva la France!
Finally, we get to see this world's next great worlwide conflict. All in all, I can't wait to read about it.
In addition, I've really been enjoying the latest updates. The drama that was going down in Kingdom of Batavia was especially fun to read about.
Finally, we get to see this world's next great worlwide conflict. All in all, I can't wait to read about it.
In addition, I've really been enjoying the latest updates. The drama that was going down in Kingdom of Batavia was especially fun to read about.
Allez les Bleus
We'd been waiting for the Next Big One for quite a while. Now it has come
And it's going to be bloody...this World War will deserve its name.
A shame that we're ally to the english . Would have liked to invade them again
Invading the British Isles while at the same time fighting a continental war AND several colony wars...there is overreaching but this goese ven beyond this...
Nah, it's fine, it would have been difficult to Keep control of the Seas without the English
Yeah, the French Fleet is the greatest of all belligerents but they will be already stretched quite thin in some places. Adding the Channel to the list of potential war zones is kind of counter-indicated.
You mean the country that kills their admirals if they lose a single battle ? They are such a great help to control the sea
Ah, this good old POD...
The Baltic is a deep problem for the Entente. On one hand, they want to link up with Russia and the Baltic is their main chance to achieve it. On the other hand, as lon as they haven't dealt with the warships, the mines, the submarines and the coastal batteries, Denmark will have the opportunity to give them hell. So for the moment, the plan is to force the Danish to come out the Skagerrak and destroy them in the North Sea.
Hopefully they have grown out of this now
Yeah, hopefully.
Now now, France has to protect her junior allies.
Being English, this is never something I would have had to consider writing OTL, (so far, from about 2020 onwards however...).
But that's something I've really enjoyed about reading this TL, it's been realistically handled and very well written. Realistically, how on earth did such a small country end up with such a huge Empire. OTL is ASB.
Thanks! And yes should an alternate writer makes a world of OTL, i have a feeling he would not be taken very seriously...
Vive le Roi, vive la France!
Thanks for the support and the compliments. And yes, the Great War is about to begin...
Not to mention torpedo boats!
If Denmark naval wise are anything like it was historical, its navy is specifically built for combat in the Baltic. which means generally smaller capital ships, but more maneuverable etc.
If they have a shed of competency, the Danish ships, even if my understanding is that it is a substantial fleet. Will not leave the safety of the Danish isles, where minefields, coastal batteries artillery etc. gives it a massive edge
At least I hope that won't happen..
I swear this post being posted on the eve of the Armistice birthday is just a coincidence...
An Explosion to Set the World Aflame (the Great War Begins 1897)
As soon as the great system of alliances had begun to form all around the world, the term ‘diplomatic crisis’ had taken an entire new meaning. Before, the removal of an angry foreign emissary could have caused a limited war between two nations. Now it could be the start of a terrible conflict between a dozen countries and possibly more.
Worse, not many governments and rulers were ready to raise their voice and order a stop these increasing tensions. Sizeable majority of politicians and military officers had become convinced this war would be the means to establish domination for hundreds of years over the lands they saw as rightfully theirs.
Could the disputes have been settled by that point? Optimistic civilians answered positively but the reality was sombre. While no declaration of war had been given, there had already been hundreds of clashes in the interior of the African continent between hot-blooded youth of different empires and republics. France, Russia, the UPNG and England among many others had unofficially began to exert greater economic pressure on every continent, trying to destabilise the finances of their rivals before the first shot was fired.
The land and naval military armament programs were requiring extravagating amounts of money, to the point even the fiercest supporter of a government grimaced when showed the costs. This was a weapon race, and industrialists knew very well that unless a war came soon, there would be sizeable short-cuts in the figure.
Nationalism was striking the embers of vengeance. Scotland was eager to have its revenge against England and the enemies which had defeated the northern nation the last time. Saxony had grand designs for all Germany, the Polish and the Russians were looking at each other and dared the troops on the opposite side of the frontier to take the first step. India had tens of thousands men shouting that the sub-continent had to be united, under their banner of course. For the two Shogunates of Japan, the last years had just been a truce before they really fought seriously and ended this civil war. The Chinese Emperors shared similar ideas, willing to restore the unity of the Celestial Empire and rise again on the world stage as an incontestable Great Power.
There was no prudence at the top of the hierarchy. Europe, Asia and America were cursed with young and old militant nationalist leaders. Certain were vehemently religious while their opponents were atheists, but here too there was the idea that this status quo had to end. Emperor Gustav I was widely recognised as a warmonger, but the different renowned newspapers from Québec to Edo recognised Director Damian Jackson, Emperor Miguel II of New Spain or Tsar Michael II were not exactly worthy of praise either.
The war could have commenced at Nagasaki on January 18 1897. It was there a team of Tokugawa agents was targeted minutes before they tried to sabotage a cruiser of the Satsuma navy. The incident was particularly bloody, as the men serving Northern Japan had access to modern weapons and were quite willing to use them. They were still wiped out at the end of the day though, and only the shame which would go if they recognised this failure explained why Shogun Tokugawa Mitsukune refused to declare war. The Satsuma generals and admirals were livid, but lacked evidence to prove their arch-enemies had been behind this odious action.
Another incident of note happened two months later, as the Holy Spanish Navy participated in a grand fleet exercise with its French counterparts. Despite the injunctions this part of the Mediterranean was off-limits for non-Entente ships for the better part of the week, Habsburg warships tried to disrupt the entire affairs and many warning shots were fired. There were other grave incidents, the assassination of the French ambassador in the streets of Warsaw, several Chinese and Spanish torpedo boats nearly ramming each other in the Philippines Sea.
It could not last forever and everyone realised at each crisis point that eventually, an event was going to get out of control.
And it was in the powder keg of the Balkans it would happen.
From the start of the escalation, the region had been dangerous for all interests. The Dual Republic of Hungary-Austria and the Republic of Serbia had joined the European Union. The Transylvania Tsardom was a partner of the Entente. Naples had designs on the neutral Republic of Albania and Greece was entertaining dreams of Byzantine supremacy after the last lost war.
On July 17, the absolute monarch of the Russian Empire, Tsar Nicholas II, visited Athens officially with several of his councillors. It was not a secret the monarch was here to convince both his Entente partners and King Kristios I to sign with the entente, an alliance which would open the way for a two-front invasion of Serbia. Yet the politicians of the Alliance, the Union and practically person aware of these dealings knew this was not a done-deal. France remained worried the Greek army was obsolete and they would have to entirely rearm it in the years to come and the less said about the navy the better. The members of the Entente had other issues like religion for the Holy Spanish Empire or trade tariffs for England and Ireland.
And indeed as the days passed, the situation appeared blocked. The Greek ministers were not willing to move on several points, mainly the military support they expected for their participation in a possible Balkan War. As the talks were suspended for the rest of the day on July 28 1897, Tsar Nicholas II was returning to his hotel while an explosion engine tore apart the street where he travelled.
By miracle, the Tsar was only lightly wounded as his French-made car resisted admirably the explosion but his escort could not say the same. Over thirty Russian soldiers lay dead and the civilians’ casualty list was in the hundreds.
There was no doubt permitted. Someone had tried to assassinate the tsar and the Greek security forces were immediately unleashed to search the culprits of this murderous and cowardly attempt. And in two days, they found them. It was a cell of a dozen Polish Collectivists-sympathisers, led by a young firebrand named Jarek Cieslak, who had built the bomb and organised the entire affair. Half of the group was killed in the arrest but Cieslak was captured alive. Tortured, the responsible of hundreds of Greek deaths denied being paid by King Sigismund IV of Poland but Russian services had excellent intelligent resources. Before the Tsar had returned to the safety of Moscow, Nicholas II’s officers knew Jarek Cieslak was still supposed to be serving his last year of conscription in a casern next to the frontier with Austria.
Many thoughts it was bad. But the next revelation was about to come. Cieslak was not only a Polish soldier - which made the entire affair a casus belli in all due form – he was also an indifferent Jew. For Nicholas II of Russia, who had never been the most tolerant of men already, this was an ignoble conspiracy and there could be no conciliation. Poland and Sigismund IV had to recognise their crimes. The European Union had tried to decapitate the Empire of All Russia. On August 24, the Russian ambassador handed a terrible ultimatum to the Polish foreign minister. Moscow demanded all the remaining friends of Cieslak to be released in their custody, the authorisation to investigate on Polish soil, an extravagant sum of gold and many other one-sided orders.
There was never any chance the Polish government was going to accept these terms. On August 28, Sigismund IV replied with a letter of his own, openly telling Poland would die before this ultimatum was voted by the Seljm. On August 29, Jarek Cieslak was executed by firing squad in a little town of Transylvania where the Greeks had released him to the Russian soldiers. On August 30 1897, the Russian Empire declared war to the Kingdom of Poland.
The Great War had begun.
An Explosion to Set the World Aflame (the Great War Begins 1897)
As soon as the great system of alliances had begun to form all around the world, the term ‘diplomatic crisis’ had taken an entire new meaning. Before, the removal of an angry foreign emissary could have caused a limited war between two nations. Now it could be the start of a terrible conflict between a dozen countries and possibly more.
Worse, not many governments and rulers were ready to raise their voice and order a stop these increasing tensions. Sizeable majority of politicians and military officers had become convinced this war would be the means to establish domination for hundreds of years over the lands they saw as rightfully theirs.
Could the disputes have been settled by that point? Optimistic civilians answered positively but the reality was sombre. While no declaration of war had been given, there had already been hundreds of clashes in the interior of the African continent between hot-blooded youth of different empires and republics. France, Russia, the UPNG and England among many others had unofficially began to exert greater economic pressure on every continent, trying to destabilise the finances of their rivals before the first shot was fired.
The land and naval military armament programs were requiring extravagating amounts of money, to the point even the fiercest supporter of a government grimaced when showed the costs. This was a weapon race, and industrialists knew very well that unless a war came soon, there would be sizeable short-cuts in the figure.
Nationalism was striking the embers of vengeance. Scotland was eager to have its revenge against England and the enemies which had defeated the northern nation the last time. Saxony had grand designs for all Germany, the Polish and the Russians were looking at each other and dared the troops on the opposite side of the frontier to take the first step. India had tens of thousands men shouting that the sub-continent had to be united, under their banner of course. For the two Shogunates of Japan, the last years had just been a truce before they really fought seriously and ended this civil war. The Chinese Emperors shared similar ideas, willing to restore the unity of the Celestial Empire and rise again on the world stage as an incontestable Great Power.
There was no prudence at the top of the hierarchy. Europe, Asia and America were cursed with young and old militant nationalist leaders. Certain were vehemently religious while their opponents were atheists, but here too there was the idea that this status quo had to end. Emperor Gustav I was widely recognised as a warmonger, but the different renowned newspapers from Québec to Edo recognised Director Damian Jackson, Emperor Miguel II of New Spain or Tsar Michael II were not exactly worthy of praise either.
The war could have commenced at Nagasaki on January 18 1897. It was there a team of Tokugawa agents was targeted minutes before they tried to sabotage a cruiser of the Satsuma navy. The incident was particularly bloody, as the men serving Northern Japan had access to modern weapons and were quite willing to use them. They were still wiped out at the end of the day though, and only the shame which would go if they recognised this failure explained why Shogun Tokugawa Mitsukune refused to declare war. The Satsuma generals and admirals were livid, but lacked evidence to prove their arch-enemies had been behind this odious action.
Another incident of note happened two months later, as the Holy Spanish Navy participated in a grand fleet exercise with its French counterparts. Despite the injunctions this part of the Mediterranean was off-limits for non-Entente ships for the better part of the week, Habsburg warships tried to disrupt the entire affairs and many warning shots were fired. There were other grave incidents, the assassination of the French ambassador in the streets of Warsaw, several Chinese and Spanish torpedo boats nearly ramming each other in the Philippines Sea.
It could not last forever and everyone realised at each crisis point that eventually, an event was going to get out of control.
And it was in the powder keg of the Balkans it would happen.
From the start of the escalation, the region had been dangerous for all interests. The Dual Republic of Hungary-Austria and the Republic of Serbia had joined the European Union. The Transylvania Tsardom was a partner of the Entente. Naples had designs on the neutral Republic of Albania and Greece was entertaining dreams of Byzantine supremacy after the last lost war.
On July 17, the absolute monarch of the Russian Empire, Tsar Nicholas II, visited Athens officially with several of his councillors. It was not a secret the monarch was here to convince both his Entente partners and King Kristios I to sign with the entente, an alliance which would open the way for a two-front invasion of Serbia. Yet the politicians of the Alliance, the Union and practically person aware of these dealings knew this was not a done-deal. France remained worried the Greek army was obsolete and they would have to entirely rearm it in the years to come and the less said about the navy the better. The members of the Entente had other issues like religion for the Holy Spanish Empire or trade tariffs for England and Ireland.
And indeed as the days passed, the situation appeared blocked. The Greek ministers were not willing to move on several points, mainly the military support they expected for their participation in a possible Balkan War. As the talks were suspended for the rest of the day on July 28 1897, Tsar Nicholas II was returning to his hotel while an explosion engine tore apart the street where he travelled.
By miracle, the Tsar was only lightly wounded as his French-made car resisted admirably the explosion but his escort could not say the same. Over thirty Russian soldiers lay dead and the civilians’ casualty list was in the hundreds.
There was no doubt permitted. Someone had tried to assassinate the tsar and the Greek security forces were immediately unleashed to search the culprits of this murderous and cowardly attempt. And in two days, they found them. It was a cell of a dozen Polish Collectivists-sympathisers, led by a young firebrand named Jarek Cieslak, who had built the bomb and organised the entire affair. Half of the group was killed in the arrest but Cieslak was captured alive. Tortured, the responsible of hundreds of Greek deaths denied being paid by King Sigismund IV of Poland but Russian services had excellent intelligent resources. Before the Tsar had returned to the safety of Moscow, Nicholas II’s officers knew Jarek Cieslak was still supposed to be serving his last year of conscription in a casern next to the frontier with Austria.
Many thoughts it was bad. But the next revelation was about to come. Cieslak was not only a Polish soldier - which made the entire affair a casus belli in all due form – he was also an indifferent Jew. For Nicholas II of Russia, who had never been the most tolerant of men already, this was an ignoble conspiracy and there could be no conciliation. Poland and Sigismund IV had to recognise their crimes. The European Union had tried to decapitate the Empire of All Russia. On August 24, the Russian ambassador handed a terrible ultimatum to the Polish foreign minister. Moscow demanded all the remaining friends of Cieslak to be released in their custody, the authorisation to investigate on Polish soil, an extravagant sum of gold and many other one-sided orders.
There was never any chance the Polish government was going to accept these terms. On August 28, Sigismund IV replied with a letter of his own, openly telling Poland would die before this ultimatum was voted by the Seljm. On August 29, Jarek Cieslak was executed by firing squad in a little town of Transylvania where the Greeks had released him to the Russian soldiers. On August 30 1897, the Russian Empire declared war to the Kingdom of Poland.
The Great War had begun.
Well, this happen....
Hey, if anything, the fact that the French made car survived the explosion say great things about the quality of future french Tank
Well, good to see I can count on you to see the faint light in the middle fo the darkness to come...