In a scenario where the Ottoman Empire never existed (say Osman died before he could become leader of the Turkish group which became the Ottomans or his group got wiped out early on), how would Anatolia develop? Could any other Turkish beyliks have filled the role of the Ottoman Empire? Could Byzantium/Rhomania have hung on longer than it did historically in a world without the Ottoman Empire? What happens to the Middle East? How does the Mamluk Sultanate develop?
Impact of a stillborn Ottoman Empire
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Koprulu Mustafa Pasha
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Osman dies = His brother Gündüz or Savci take over.
Osmans territory gets whiped out by the Mongols = some new Turkmens take over the vacuum abandoned by Osman Ghazi.
Over all nothing much to change. The unification of the Turkmens in North Western Anatolia may slow down. The Romans are probably in a worse position if they can't get Turkish aid vs the Serbo-Bulgarian Invasion led by Stefan IV.
It really depends on whether another Turkish group from Anatolia take the dominant role in the region or if they remain separated (or largely so). If another group or one of Osman's relatives take over, than the impact is probably largely the same, if not exactly. The Byzantines are probably still doomed, and the core OTL ottoman territories in Anatolia and the Balkans probably still fall under Turkish rule.
If another group doesn't rise up from among the turks to become dominant than theres a multitude of ways it could go. Timur or any number of nomadic groups moving from Persia could take over the region. The Byzantines are probably doomed by this point no matter what, but a Greek successor state could probably still hold most of OTL Greece and the western Anatolia coast potentially.
If another group doesn't rise up from among the turks to become dominant than theres a multitude of ways it could go. Timur or any number of nomadic groups moving from Persia could take over the region. The Byzantines are probably doomed by this point no matter what, but a Greek successor state could probably still hold most of OTL Greece and the western Anatolia coast potentially.