If the Cuban Missile Crisis went hot, would there be fighting elsewhere?

If, in 1962, the United States launched airstrikes and/or an invasion of Cuba during the missile crisis, would it cause war to break out in other parts of the world like Germany?
 
While i think it is WW3 the reality is that the USSR may decide that Cube is not worth WW3 and getting nuked. It is very hard to predict how the leaders of the USSR would react in any give situation. So odds are WW3 but… you cant ever truly know.
 

raharris1973

Gone Fishin'
General Soviet assault on NATO and all flanks (from Norway to Turkey). At a minimum air and missile targeting on known US bases in the southern flank (Iran and Pakistan). Same against US bases in Pacific Rim Japan - esp Hokkaido (with or without a ground component), stand-off on other Japanese bases, South Korea, Okinawa, Subic and Clark. Soviet nuclear strike on reachable parts of US. This is all what's attempted. What gets through is a different story. US does responding/near-simultaneous strikes on Cuba and all USSR and Warsaw Pact, North Korea and China. If there's enough of a Russian naval fixed facility or airfield to be of interest in placed like Tartus Syria, or Alexandria, Egypt, they get hit too.
 
If, in 1962, the United States launched airstrikes and/or an invasion of Cuba during the missile crisis, would it cause war to break out in other parts of the world like Germany?

If it kicks off in '62 I could see these conflicts going hot without the 'stopper in the bottle' (USA) not being there due to having their hands full.

China goes for Taiwan while North Korea moves South
North Vietnam goes on the rampage invading the South and entering Cambodia & Laos
India & Pakistan start slogging it out.
The Arab League try and erase Israel off the map especially as Israel have lost their US backing
Might Argentina go for the Falklands thinking the UK will either be glassed or have its hands full?
 
General Soviet assault on NATO and all flanks (from Norway to Turkey). At a minimum air and missile targeting on known US bases in the southern flank (Iran and Pakistan). Same against US bases in Pacific Rim Japan - esp Hokkaido (with or without a ground component), stand-off on other Japanese bases, South Korea, Okinawa, Subic and Clark. Soviet nuclear strike on reachable parts of US. This is all what's attempted. What gets through is a different story. US does responding/near-simultaneous strikes on Cuba and all USSR and Warsaw Pact, North Korea and China. If there's enough of a Russian naval fixed facility or airfield to be of interest in placed like Tartus Syria, or Alexandria, Egypt, they get hit too.
Does ussr have the necessary offensive forces ( IRBM , strike aircraft, bombers etc) ?
 
America still has a navy, sure Norfolk, Pearl Harbor and other major bases are nuked and the logistic and industrial capability is severely disrupted, but give it a bit of time, maybe even as low as a year and America can project more power over all the seas than any other navies
 
There was a Sino-Indian War in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis, so, expect fighting in India and China along the Himalayas during the crisis as well.
 
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Interesting analysis of the nuclear forces. What is interesting is that it misses almost entirely the intra-Communist conflict that occurred between Castro and the fUSSR over the IL28 light bombers that belonged to Cuba. Castro was most annoyed and threatened to use the tactical nuclear warheads against the USA.
 

marathag

Banned
Interesting analysis of the nuclear forces. What is interesting is that it misses almost entirely the intra-Communist conflict that occurred between Castro and the fUSSR over the IL28 light bombers that belonged to Cuba. Castro was most annoyed and threatened to use the tactical nuclear warheads against the USA.
Fidel was high on his own supply. Nikita,OTOH, knew his gambit/bluff had gone terribly wrong, and didn't have a death wish to start WWIII, that the USSR would be annihilated in a near biblical Sevenfold Vengeance under USAF Atomic Fire.
 
General Soviet assault on NATO and all flanks (from Norway to Turkey). At a minimum air and missile targeting on known US bases in the southern flank (Iran and Pakistan). Same against US bases in Pacific Rim Japan - esp Hokkaido (with or without a ground component), stand-off on other Japanese bases, South Korea, Okinawa, Subic and Clark. Soviet nuclear strike on reachable parts of US. This is all what's attempted. What gets through is a different story. US does responding/near-simultaneous strikes on Cuba and all USSR and Warsaw Pact, North Korea and China. If there's enough of a Russian naval fixed facility or airfield to be of interest in placed like Tartus Syria, or Alexandria, Egypt, they get hit too.
Was Subic and Clark in range of Soviet missiles? Or would it come from the subs? The Huks in the Philippines were already defeated by then but that did not mean communism was gone. The NPA were only established in 1969 but a similar movement could come earlier if Manila was gone or placed into disarray from the strikes in Subic, Clark, Wallace Air Station, Mactan AB, and Baguio City.

Other places would be a Second Korean War, Sino-Indian War (which was ongoing), the Vietnam War being fought primarily by the North and South since there were only American advisors at this period.
If it kicks off in '62 I could see these conflicts going hot without the 'stopper in the bottle' (USA) not being there due to having their hands full.

China goes for Taiwan while North Korea moves South
North Vietnam goes on the rampage invading the South and entering Cambodia & Laos
India & Pakistan start slogging it out.
The Arab League try and erase Israel off the map especially as Israel have lost their US backing
Might Argentina go for the Falklands thinking the UK will either be glassed or have its hands full?
China did not have a navy to take over Taiwan in 1962.

The Vietnam War probably becomes a stalemate as both suppliers of both sides are gone.

India was already fighting China in the Himalayas but it could use the confusion to seize parts of Pakistani-controlled areas of Kashmir.

The second Arab-Israeli War would also be a stalemate, even bloodier than the Yom Kippur War and the Six-Day War of OTL.

I think Argentina can take the Falklands or use other methods such as handing out aid and supplies to the local residents who have no choice but to accept since London is already gone.
 

colonel

Donor
If the United States invades Cuba with just conventional forces, I could see the Soviets taking Berlin and telling the world they are stopping there. It is then a matter of whether NATO blinks.
 
Once the War started and first nuke hit the USA , the SAC will nuclear attack East Europe (except Hungary), USSR, China, North Korea and Cuba !
Europe will be battle field between NATO and Warsaw Pact troops. similar fighting will be between North and South Korea.
Canada could be involve in War do Target of Soviet Bomber, who lose there way to target, believing there over USA...

Why except Hungary ? they revolted against USSR in 1950s, so the Nation was remove from Targets list at SAC

World War III could be exploited by some nations to settle there border dispute, like Iraq invade Kuwait.
 
Once the War started and first nuke hit the USA , the SAC will nuclear attack East Europe (except Hungary), USSR, China, North Korea and Cuba !
Europe will be battle field between NATO and Warsaw Pact troops. similar fighting will be between North and South Korea.
Canada could be involve in War do Target of Soviet Bomber, who lose there way to target, believing there over USA...

Why except Hungary ? they revolted against USSR in 1950s, so the Nation was remove from Targets list at SAC

World War III could be exploited by some nations to settle there border dispute, like Iraq invade Kuwait.
I think in Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia and Romania will also be spared. The former denounced the USSR and formed its own communist bloc and had cordial relations with the West. Even if Romania was part of the Warsaw Pact, it also had cordial relations with the West.

The plan to attack the USSR and China can be summed up by SIOP.
Meanwhile SIOP 64 mentions (under the LBJ administration) - same link above
  • The SIOP guidance permitted “withholds” to hold back strikes on specific countries. Recognizing the reality of Sino-Soviet tensions, it would be possible to launch nuclear strikes against the Soviet Union without attacking China or vice versa or to withhold strikes from some Eastern European countries, namely Albania, Bulgaria, and Romania.
    ...
    The report did not explain why those three countries were eligible for withholds (but not, for example, Poland). Given Albania's close ties to China, it is possible that the government wanted the ability to withhold Albania as a target if it was also withholding strikes against its ally China. Moreover, U.S. intelligence was aware that Soviet-Romanian relations were troubled. In fact, during Fall 1963, Foreign Minister Corneliu Manescu told Secretary of State Dean Rusk that the Soviets had not consulted Romania during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that the Soviets had not deployed nuclear weapons in Romania. In response, Rusk assured Manescu that U.S. military planning would take that into account.[11] (The "Furtherance" instructions showed the limits to the withholds, at least before 1968.) Why Bulgaria was included is far from evident because it was so closely aligned with the Soviet Union.
Albania would only be pro-China in 1968 so it was definitely going to be targeted in 1962.
 
I think in Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia and Romania will also be spared.
Yugoslavia, I can see. But the same SIOP you are citing heavily targeted Eastern Europe and Romania. Toss in the employment of theater and tactical nukes, plus the conventional forces fightiing, those regions are getting scorched over.
 
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