Hammer's, Sickle's, and Mushroom Clouds. the Story of the Reverse Cold War

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Very interesting, especially because of unexpected developments like Bavarian and Saxonian Nationalist movements being supported!

Well. I guess im good like that. thank you.

Well, this is certainly one of the most interesting TL here.

Well thank you. :)

Based on what you have done, I'll nominate this for the 2013 Turtledoves next January.

Me? a Turtledove? im honored..

Great Timeline,So is britain this TL China? (ie Important but isolantist and each bloc tries to bring them to there side?)


Thanks. :).. through I was thinking more along the lines of Francoist Spain for Britain. personally. minus the Civil War





and guys, ill promise to try and get the next update up today, Operation: Charlamage is proving to be a pain in the arse.
 
Just Curious, is there an active resistance movement in the former United States? I noticed that there was no reference to what happened to John Nance Garner and he could wind up being the leading counter revolutionary.
 
Just Curious, is there an active resistance movement in the former United States? I noticed that there was no reference to what happened to John Nance Garner and he could wind up being the leading counter revolutionary.



No, the people are fairly happy and content with the Communist government, those who aren't are of course sent to Alaska or now Nunuvant (aka American Siberia)

through in terms of Garner, I meant to leave that a mystery.
 
"The Days were Dark indeed, fighting against a enemy that Would not give up, But we didn't ethier, we may have needed every man, woman and child, but we didn't, our heart does not give up..."

Orman Rovelle Brussells

Chapter 7: June 22nd, 1941-February 2nd, 1943
World War II
Nasty Medival Emperors


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The Oppenheimer-Hollande Pact signed in 1939 was considered to be temporary by First Citoyen and Chancellor Jean-Claude Geymere, he hated the Union of American Socialist Republics, Communists, and Americans, considered them sub-humans to be put down by the "Superior" French race. the Pact had been a temporary thing to do one of two things, Get a foothold on the North American Continet, and annex Quebec, the majority French speaking part of Canada, Brussells took the bait hard, long Geymere had been behind the scenes planning to backstab the Americans since the Pact was signed., and carry out his ultimate plans. this cultimated in the creation of "Operation: Charlamage", named after the Medival French Emperor of the same name, which detailed the invasion of the UASR by the Greater French State, Operation: Charlamage would be launched in the early morning hours of June 22nd 1941, French bombers began the attack by bombarding American cites in occupied Ontario. as the 1.7 Million French troops commited to the campaign began marching across the Ontario-Quebec border into the UASR.​

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French tank corps during the Initial March to Washington, circa 1941

The Red Army was caught completely off guard by Geymere's launch of Operation: Charlamage, as Brussells had expected the backstab to happen a few months earlier, and thought if they didn't do it then, they wouldn't do it now, the Red Army had also suffered from one of many purgues issued by Brussells throughout his Premiership. resulting in the Red Army that was around when the French began there invasion to be young, inexperienced. and unprepared for a invasion of UASR soil. the inital months of the invasion went amazingly smooth for the French, As the 1.7 Million Men it scrounched up for the invasion completed initial objectives over the border, the French pushed further into Ontario and the former Martime Provinces of Canada, the isolated island of Newfoundland would be easily surrounded and captured by the French in early July, while the exhausted Red Army, low on fuel, morale, ammunation and coordination, due to the ineffctive commanders of the Red Army after the last purgue in May 1941, allowed the French much early succsess, the old Canadian-American border soon became threatend, as the Battle's of Ottawa (July 28th-August 4th, 1941), Niagra Falls (August 6th-August 10th, 1941) Nova Scotia (August 9th-August 12th, 1941) would allow the French to begin a push into New England.​

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Female Troops in the Red Army such as these were common during the war with France, as the UASR needed anyone who could carry a rifle to fight.

Uncoordinated Red Army forces in the New England region attempted to fight off the French onslaught, however morale was quickly draining, however the French, at the First Battle of Maine (August 20th-August 22nd, 1941) The Battle of Albany (August 22nd-August 26th, 1941) and the Battle of Boston (August 29th-September 3rd, 1941) would prove to be desicive French victories, and soon, most of the New England region would be overrun by French forces, who began pushing into Pennsylvania and surrounding the Great Lakes, the industrial region of Pittsburgh became the next target for French troops, as the French continued to advance at a alarming pace against the Fledgling Red Army, a French victory at the Battle of Pittsburgh (September 10th-September 15th, 1941) not only left the city in ruins, but allowed the French to breakthrough into Maryland, and threaten the Capital City of Washington, DC, in the Great Lakes, elements of the French Army began pushing to secure the Great Lakes and the Ohio River, as they sought to push towards one of the French objectives, the highly valuble Houston Oilfields[1], one of Geymere's directed goals was to secure the Oilfields in Houston, as the French would need Oil to continue Operation: Charlamage, and capturing the Oilfields would be a blow to the UASR, the French would win desicive victories at the Battles of Cincinatti (September 19th-September 22nd, Detroit (September 22nd-September 25th, 1941) Eire (September 27th-September 30th, 1941) and the Battle of Indiana (September 28th-October 1st, 1941) would help secure the Great Lakes for the French, through the French were bogged down outside Chicago for the time being, and Red Army holdouts still exsisted, most of the Great Lakes and Northern US had fallen under French control, however the first string of badluck would strike the French in December, as a unusally cold winter in the Northeast would bog the French Army outside the Gates to Washington, DC.​

However, back in Paris, Jean-Claude Geymere would send the order, a order, concerning, a "Final Solution" for the Jewish "problem" in France.............​

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German Troops defending a entrenched posistion from the French.

Meanwhile back in Europe, the Germans lost there long time Emperor, Kaiser Wilhelm II, to a heart attack a few weeks before the launch of Operation: Charlamage, on June 4, 1941, the young Crown Prince, Wilhelm III, would ascend to the throne as Kaiser Wilhelm III, promising his father, in spirit, to drive the Fascist hordes from Germany, however the German Army continued to have minimal succsess against the Axis armies, as the French and Austrians began pushing towards Berlin once more, during Late June the Imperial German government had begun a gradual removal of Governmental Forces from Berlin, through the Kaiser and Chancellor had refused to leave Berlin so far, Berlin soon became a fortress in all but name, as troops patrolled the streets of the city all day and night, while the Government tried to maintain order in the city as best as possible, Berlin became less of a city and more of a military base, as curfew had been instituted, the army ran the city pretty much, the French and Austrian advances soon began to move slower however, the German Army had began to bog the Axis from breaking 200 km defensive line around Berlin and the surrounding area. the situation would stay like this for most of the rest of 1941 and parts of 1942, as the standstill in the Axis push to "Fortress Berlin" situated in place​

Elsewhere in Europe, the Balkan Front prove to go okay for both Austria-Hungary and Bulgaria, in a way, the Austrians would finally reach Belgrade in Early 1942, through the cost of taking Belgrade would proof costly to the Austrians later on, as the Serbs continued to fanatically fight on, and the Bulgarians would crush Serb rebellions in Macedonia for the time being, and crushed Greece in late 1942, the Bulgars would then soon however, begin the plans to take the Sick Man of Europe off life support.​

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General Erwin Rommel off to inspect troops in East Africa

Meanwhile in Africa, movement in Kamerun, the Congo and German East Africa continued throughout 1941 and 1942, the action in Kamerun saw the most action on the African front, as the Afrikacorps in Kamerun led by Joseph Goebells, would bog down invading French and Spanish armies, as they continued to hold strong to the interior cites and jungles of Kamerun, the campaign in the German Congo would prove to be mostly a stalemate also, through the French manage to push a little deeper along the border, enough that they could invade German East Africa from the West, Colonial Albert Speer would be tasked to lead the defense agaist the French in Northwestern German East Africa, (Uganda), while on the other side of the colony, Erwin Rommel's Afrikakorps began to made gains on the Italians. who began to falter apart under corrupt leadership, Sudwestafrika continued to remain quiet, as it was surrounded by Neutral British colonies, through some wondered how long this situation would last.​

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French troop with a M1928 Thompson 45. Caliber SMG[3] during the Battle of St. Louis, Many French troops used American Thompson's over there own weapons feeling they were more useful in close quarters battle.

Back in North America, Operation: Charlamage had failed to defeat the Americans desicivly in one campaign, however Geymere was confident, as the French still had the upper hand on the Americans, Through The bitterly cold winter of 1941 had bogged down the North Army outside the gates of Washington, and had drained supplies much, the winter gave the French troops time to rest and recuperate, while the winter gave the Americans renewed hope in pushing back the French, through the Americans had lost 59% of the inital strength in the intial year of the campaign, the initial months of 1942 would still prove to be in the French's favor, initial pushes into Kentucky and further into Virginia would prove to be succsessful for the French, as the Battle's of Lexington (February 6th-February 11th, 1942), Louisville (February 16th-February 26th, 1942), Charleston (February 29th-March 6th, 1942) and Richmond (March 13th-April 1st, 1942) would give the French tremendous gains, as they continued to push deeper into the UASR, Geymere made the decision the Strategic Industrial City of St. Louis[2] needed to be taken, he believed taking the city would allow the path to the lucritive Houston oilfields to go smoother, so he ordered the army split in two, the 8th Army and others continuing to march towards the Houston oilfields as planned, and sent 6th Army Corps to march to the Missouri, and St. Louis, the Battle of St. Louis (July 7th, 1942-February 2nd, 1943) would turn out to be one of the bloodiest battles in not only the Second World War, but in history itself, the intital attack on the city began with heavy bombardment of the city in Early July by the French Air Force, the Americans had evacuated much of the food in the city across the Missouri as they had warning of the French attack on the city, through this would cause problems later on, the inital French advanced towards St. Louis would be slow, as fanatical American defenses would slow down "The March to the Missouri" as Geymere put it, the situation for the Americans had gotten so desperate however, that anyone who was strong enough to hold a Rifle was recruited to defend the city, many instinces of Volunteer Corps building Tanks in the remaining factories in St. Louis then manning them straight from the factory floor to the frontlines occured. and heavy recruitment of Female Troops who had never fired any kind of weapon before, would happen. many French troops would be shocked upon fighting American resistors, and then finding out they were Women. however sitations such as this would prove the desperation the Red Army was at during this time, the March Towards the Missouri would continue for the French, as the retreating Americans fought valiently for every last square inch of St. Louis. 3 months of slow advance by the French consumated when they reached the Missouri in Late October, at this point, the French Army controlled 90% of St. Louis, most of the city laid in Ruins, as Urban combat in Apartment buildings and the streets raged everyday, the Americans held a defensive line alone the Missouri. led by General George S. Patton, realizing the French were ill-equipped for the Winter, which proved to be harshly cold for North American standards once more, ordered a offensive.​


Operation: Pluto would be launched in late November of 1942. the offensive targeted the weaker Spanish and Algerian flanks that supported the French center, this would prove to be a great strategy for the Red Army, who proved wanting to avoid conflict with French troops whenever possible. the plan including several groups of the Army, including the all Female "St. Louis Fighting Betsies" would work to break the weaker Spanish and Algerian flanks, Operation: Pluto would leave the French Sixth Army surrounded in St. Louis by Red Army troops, who continued to bombared the starved Sixth Army, French attempts to relieve the surroundment would fail, after 3 months of starvation, and after 6 months and 25 days of fighting, the Battle of St. Louis would end with the complete destruction of the French Sixth Army,


[1] Houston = The Baku Oilfields, yes, the French really wanted Oil, lots of it. Texan oil too. the best kind of oil. :p
[2] Yes... St. Louis = Stalingrad................. darn French should've never came here.... the Fighting Betsies sure kicked there asses.
[3] Yes, the Chicago Typewriter:D is the Main Weapon of the Red Army, the classic gun of Mobster's during Prohibition is still the Main Weapon of the Red Army, through the Red Army uses the Mobster favorite M1928 Thompson with the front grip and round drum, to make it more analougus to the PPSH-41 the Russians used. of course.



Next Time, on the Reverse Cold War
The Iron Falls on the Fisted Foe, The Tide is Turning.
1943-1944
 
Very nice.

Any French death camps?


Also have you read mcfly's 'Reverse Sealion'?

They will probably be in remote areas of West and Central Africa, e.g. the Tibesti and Ahaggar Mountains, the swamps of Guinea and West Africa, the tropical forests of Cameroon,...

Or, naturally, in northern Canada.
 
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Very nice.

Any French death camps?


Also have you read mcfly's 'Reverse Sealion'?
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Thank you, and yes.. there are French death camps, I made a small mention about Geymere ordering a final solution around the end of 1941, about the same time the French got bogged down outside DC..

and I have, yes.

They will probably be in remote areas of West and Central Africa, e.g. the Tibesti and Ahaggar Mountains, the swamps of Guinea and West Africa, the tropical forests of Cameroon,...

Or, naturally, in northern Canada.


Kamerun's German, they probaly wouldn't put them someplace the Germans could get too, through I won't talk about much what the French are doing behind the scenes yet. we still have a war to fight.


and yes, I did have to wank the French a little bit for Operation: Charlamage to go off the way it did, but im going for a story here, right? right?
 
Nice TL, and great work with the parallels! I do wonder if someone will ever make a TL where the USA went under Communist rule Democratically and didn't disband the USA though haha.

Keep up the good work in anycase!
 
Nice TL, and great work with the parallels! I do wonder if someone will ever make a TL where the USA went under Communist rule Democratically and didn't disband the USA though haha.

Keep up the good work in anycase!



Thanks man, through am I doing good with the parallels?
 
True I suppose...............

The two winters are even more likely if you say that France employed "scorched earth" tactics, i.e. burning anything usable that is found. If this is employed, so much soot and organic material gets blown into the atmosphere that it can get measurably colder in winter, and/or the winter can be longer and harsher. Which is all you need for your TL to get the UASR screw...
 
The two winters are even more likely if you say that France employed "scorched earth" tactics, i.e. burning anything usable that is found. If this is employed, so much soot and organic material gets blown into the atmosphere that it can get measurably colder in winter, and/or the winter can be longer and harsher. Which is all you need for your TL to get the UASR screw...



Yes. that actually does make sense, alot of sense, would allow for two consecutive longer and harsher winters then normal for the North American continet (South of Nunuvant, that is), much like the winters in Russia, maybe a little warmer, but still freezing, but how does a Colder Winter screw over the UASR too? or is it because the Americans aren't cold bloods like the Russians? through the Cold Winter screws over the French too eventually.
 
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