I agree! Helping to stop the genocide in Darfur would likely be one of the Edward's presidency's high points.Say whatever you might want about Johnny Edwards, but he this one of the greatest things he did!
I agree! Helping to stop the genocide in Darfur would likely be one of the Edward's presidency's high points.Say whatever you might want about Johnny Edwards, but he this one of the greatest things he did!
TTL people might compared Edwards with Bill Clinton on Rwanda, saying that Clinton should have done the same back in 1994
On that note, Yahya could be a common name on Darfur going forward.Wonder if there's gonna be statues of John Edwards in Darfur like with Clinton in Kosovo
Mmm That’s an interesting comp.TTL people might compared Edwards with Bill Clinton on Rwanda, saying that Clinton should have done the same back in 1994
Dubya, a forgotten presidentMmm That’s an interesting comp.
With Dubya being a one-termer and no 9/11, I wonder what Clinton’s legacy is TTL
“It just goes to show it really is never too late for you to go back to school.”
Ah, the masterpiece... (whose singer realised the popularity of, and seems to spam links to his other much much much less popular songs below the comments of this video)Can't wait for the TTL version of this song
Congrats on getting your post threadmarked, MLK JFK LBJ Beatles!OMG! I just got my first thread mark! Thank you Iwanh!
It's so honored to be participated in building this TL!
Do you think Clinton will be a "meh" President. OBL was already known to U.S. intelligence circles in 1998 as he did declare his fatwa against the U.S. in 1996. The Khobar Tower attacks already happened too. But to the common American public, OBL in 1998 was just a "rambling madman" in a country far away and not the infamous terrorist he would be by OTL September 11, 2001.Mmm That’s an interesting comp.
With Dubya being a one-termer and no 9/11, I wonder what Clinton’s legacy is TTL
Mmm That’s an interesting comp.
With Dubya being a one-termer and no 9/11, I wonder what Clinton’s legacy is TTL
I'm pretty sure Bill Clinton's legacy is probably around the same as OTL's.Do you think Clinton will be a "meh" President. OBL was already known to U.S. intelligence circles in 1998 as he did declare his fatwa against the U.S. in 1996. The Khobar Tower attacks already happened too. But to the common American public, OBL in 1998 was just a "rambling madman" in a country far away and not the infamous terrorist he would be by OTL September 11, 2001.
One thing for sure, Clinton will be remembered for the Lewinsky scandal (which still happens here) and how the U.S. Navy projected its military might against the Chinese in the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis.
Guess the Iraqi mess has just gotten even more messier (and that the *Arab Spring has begun in earnest).
I think Edwards' presidency is going to be the most critical factor in determining that. If Edwards, a bit like Obama, is able to establish himself as a competent two term president, his political brand will start to eclipse Clinton's and the American public and Democrats will move on from him more quickly. One the other hand, if Edwards ends up like TTL's Bushes and only serves a single term, then Clinton ends up looking better in a nostalgic sort of way, being the last one to have presided over a prolonged period of political stability. Given that Edwards has a potential financial crisis on the horizon along with some character flaws, that doesn't strike me as impossible. On that note however, if Edwards ends up embroiled in an affair, I can see that reigniting memories of Clinton's philandering and really damaging the Democratic brand long term.With Dubya being a one-termer and no 9/11, I wonder what Clinton’s legacy is TTL
Sounds about right.I think Edwards' presidency is going to be the most critical factor in determining that. If Edwards, a bit like Obama, is able to establish himself as a competent two term president, his political brand will start to eclipse Clinton's and the American public and Democrats will move on from him more quickly. One the other hand, if Edwards ends up like TTL's Bushes and only serves a single term, then Clinton ends up looking better in a nostalgic sort of way, being the last one to have presided over a prolonged period of political stability. Given that Edwards has a potential financial crisis on the horizon along with some character flaws, that doesn't strike me as impossible. On that note however, if Edwards ends up embroiled in an affair, I can see that reigniting memories of Clinton's philandering and really damaging the Democratic brand long term.
I’d also add that since the Long Nineties have ITTL ended with a whimper rather than a bang, the hard shift that Clinton-Bush represented for us isn’t quite as present hereI think Edwards' presidency is going to be the most critical factor in determining that. If Edwards, a bit like Obama, is able to establish himself as a competent two term president, his political brand will start to eclipse Clinton's and the American public and Democrats will move on from him more quickly. One the other hand, if Edwards ends up like TTL's Bushes and only serves a single term, then Clinton ends up looking better in a nostalgic sort of way, being the last one to have presided over a prolonged period of political stability. Given that Edwards has a potential financial crisis on the horizon along with some character flaws, that doesn't strike me as impossible. On that note however, if Edwards ends up embroiled in an affair, I can see that reigniting memories of Clinton's philandering and really damaging the Democratic brand long term.