What would happen to Algeria in a world where France stays out of WW2 or at least a costly war in the mainland? France would obviously have a much larger population of Young men that might settle the region along with the money to finance further colonization. But at the same time the majority of the population of Algeria obviously hates it. So what would happen? Would France manage to hold onto it until the modern day?
French Algeria in a timeline without WW2
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What WW2 it is where France choices staying out? If France decides not declare war to Germany after Polish invasion (very unlikely) Britain probably not declare too since it has not real way to intervene easily. Perhaps nazis just never take power in Germany if this would suit better to OP?
But without WW2 France might be able to keep Algeria ten years longer. But Algerians would still revolt and probably succesfully secede unless Paris is more reasonable and give Algerians autonomy and citizenship but this seems unlikely.
But without WW2 France might be able to keep Algeria ten years longer. But Algerians would still revolt and probably succesfully secede unless Paris is more reasonable and give Algerians autonomy and citizenship but this seems unlikely.
I don't see the French losing Algeria in a world where France was not engaged into constant wars for 15 years. (WW2 and Indochina) It was considered part of metropolitan France and even if the natives start revolting and want independence, what are they going to do when their most vital cities are European/French majority? Which will be even more developed and populated TTL.
And there's nothing stopping the French TTL to deport 'agitating elements' to other colonies or give the Barbers French citizenship and turn them against the Arab overall majority. Though, it all depends on whoever is in power.
And there's nothing stopping the French TTL to deport 'agitating elements' to other colonies or give the Barbers French citizenship and turn them against the Arab overall majority. Though, it all depends on whoever is in power.
I had a Pied Noir minority rule state come up in my TL that goes to great, even ridiculous, measures to retain control.
A mega apartheid in angeria with with continuous and constant support from France. Something similar to South Africa in the Cold War or Israel with the USA.
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No WWII is not enough to save French Algeria.
French will to be atrocious to Algeria and Algerians will run out before fighting Algerians will run out.
French will to offer complete civic national merger on a basis of equality with Algerians will not emerge until Algerians are hopelessly embittered.
One day, the number of threads on Algeria, other than as an adjunct of France, will exceed 10%.
French will to be atrocious to Algeria and Algerians will run out before fighting Algerians will run out.
French will to offer complete civic national merger on a basis of equality with Algerians will not emerge until Algerians are hopelessly embittered.
One day, the number of threads on Algeria, other than as an adjunct of France, will exceed 10%.
I don't see France holding onto the entirety of Algeria indefinitely. Their rule is probably extended by 15-20 years. I could see them turning places like Algiers and Oran into majority white French enclaves. Both Algiers and Oran can, in all likelihood, remain part of metropolitan France as larger versions of Ceuta and Melilla. This of course begs the question of how WW II is avoided. There are plenty of PoDs between 1918 and 1939.
One of the big drivers in Muslim led Algerian independence goes back to 1870: Crémieux Decree. Either do not implement it or give french nationality to everyone and L'Algerie Francaise remains a lot longer.
Perhaps, perhaps not. Algerians anyway are much bigger grop than Bretons, Occitans, Basques etc.
raharris1973
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Non, see post #9
Also remember, these other groups were *allowed* to be French and enjoy France. Not so for Algerian Muslims.
Couldn't there be a similar evolution to the Troubles in Algeria? In the sense that after continuous bombings and back and forth fighting between the French Army and the Algerian Republic Army (IRA analogue) the population either French or Algerian will get tired of the whole fighting? Disrupting their lives and achieving nothing but more problems for the natives?
Nor really given the mind set of the French....they kept the Muslim population ,in the rural regions at least,virtually un educated and only started to build schools and medical facilities in those areas in the mid 50's by which time it was too late.If they did this a generation earlier and had extended the Cremieux decree to everyone after WW1 then things might have been very different. The Setif (and others ) massacre did nothing to help either