fate of indochinese independance without japanese occupation.

[Crazymachines]

how would the independance movement in indochina have changed without the japanese occupation and expulsion of the french ? would the rebellion of the viet minh still have occured? and if the viet minh did still rebel, would it be as powerful and successful as OTL?

 

[Admiral Bloonbeard]

how would the independance movement in indochina have changed without the japanese occupation and expulsion of the french ? would the rebellion of the viet minh still have occured? and if the viet minh did still rebel, would it be as powerful and successful as OTL?

Probably a unified independent Indochina under a triple monarchy. It would have probably been independent anyway, the latest I can see colonialism last is the 80s and 90s, but not that much further.

 

[walmart]

how would the independance movement in indochina have changed without the japanese occupation and expulsion of the french ?

What happened in China ?

 

[walmart]

Probably a unified independent Indochina under a triple monarchy.

There no reason for the French to set that up.

Probably a unified independent Indochina under a triple monarchy. It would have probably been independent anyway, the latest I can see colonialism last is the 80s and 90s, but not that much further.

Once Algeria rises up and the African colonies are released. I don’t see why Indochina won’t follow.

 

[Admiral Bloonbeard]

There no reason for the French to set that up.

Once Algeria rises up and the African colonies are released. I don’t see why Indochina won’t follow.

Is that why a united Indonesia was independent? Or Malaysia attempted to unify until the fallout in 1965? Regardless, I don’t see colonialism lasting forever, it was gonna die anyway.

 

[walmart]

Is that why a united Indonesia was independent? Or Malaysia attempted to unify until the fallout in 1965?

Can you clarify ? I don’t understand what you are asking here ?

 

[Admiral Bloonbeard]

Can you clarify ? I don’t understand what you are asking here ?

Unified independent Indochina is a possibility

 

[walmart]

Unified independent Indochina is a possibility

Why ? The locals would be opposed to it and France has no reason to do so .

 

[Admiral Bloonbeard]

Why ? The locals would be opposed to it and France has no reason to do so .

Malaysia was also opposed to a unified Malaysia, which was why Singapore was kicked in 1965. You are right in a way, I can see a breakup of a unified Indochina similar to the Malaysia Singapore split.

 

[walmart]

Malaysia was also opposed to a unified Malaysia, which was why Singapore was kicked in 1965.

That's because Singapore would have made Malaysia Chinese majority. The issue with a United IndoChina is the historical hatred of the groups involved and the dominance by the Vietnamese. So a United IndoChina would be a mess with Laotian, Cambodian, and other ethnic insurgencies.

 

[Crazymachines]

the question still stands: would the viet minh have been able to gain enough traction to rebel against the french as OTL without the chaos of japanese occupation

 

[TimTurner]

That's because Singapore would have made Malaysia Chinese majority. The issue with a United IndoChina is the historical hatred of the groups involved and the dominance by the Vietnamese. So a United IndoChina would be a mess with Laotian, Cambodian, and other ethnic insurgencies.

So kind of like a Burma.