Actually, IOTL, it was the other Indians - the Choctaw Indians of America - who helped us in 1845 - 1850. And we haven't forgotten and we're still grateful.
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Well, yes, but I didn't know about the Choctaw. Certainly interesting to see that context.
The usage of the ancient civilization of Ghana in scientific papers was often used as part of a pan-African narrative suggesting commonalities between West African and Central African peoples. However, there were significant cultural differences which led to divisions and the formation of different ethnic groups between West Africa and Central Africa. The JSTOR papers had a habit of using Ghana in their papers.
"Our country will hold out for a hundred years."
"Then we will besiege it for a hundred and one."
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Words exchanged between two diplomats of the Bear State and the Reconstituted Confederacy.
The Bear State had recently seceded from the Confederacy over the issue of slavery, and the Confederacy, tired and worn out from the recently-concluded Second War of the States, was desperately seeking to avoid yet another conflict. The Bear State, confident in its strength and wishing to insult its foe, acquiesced to a token negotiation effort.
The Bear State delegation was headed up by Steve Jobs, who had been the penultimate Senator from the state to sit in the Confederate Congress, and he was tasked by his superiors with delivering as well-worded a "fuck you" to the Confederacy as he could manage. His Confederate counterpart was the famous businessman and philanthropist Jeff Bezos, who had in the span of just three decades become the richest man in the world and given a whole new meaning to the words "rich as Croesus". Going into it, he knew that there was little the Confederacy could do at that point to stop the Bear from walking out, so he resolved on a simple plan of offering an olive branch and following up with fire and bluster once the inevitable refusal to accept terms was given.
Unfortunately, his opponent immediately cottoned on to what he was doing and casually stopped him in his tracks by bluntly telling him to take his spiel somewhere else, and proceeded to rattle off a list of Confederate Army statistics which clearly demonstrated the Confederacy could do dick-all about the secession, and that as such he saw no need for compromise of any sort. Bezos, seeing there was little point in maintaining the bullshit anymore, told Jobs that even if that was the case, the Confederacy would still prosecute the war to the bitter end, and they would not be merciful in victory. What followed is the above exchange.
"In this part of the world, the people have a habit of talking about foreigners in the singular. It's not the Mexica people who are a vile pestilence upon Chichiman and extort blood from its people; it's the Mexican who is a thief and plunderer worthy of dismemberment. Such designations put all the bile and venom a gringo can put into 'filthy chink' or 'damn yank' into a quirk of grammar, so that when pressed any Zacateco may excuse himself by saying that he was speaking of a specific person. It wasn't the Mexica whom he considers to be blood-thirsty demons baked from blood and shit, it was a Mexican whom he has a problem with."
"Now, I know what you're going to say. Hashtag NotAll, amirite? But I'll let you in on a little secret, my friend; your gringo looseness and tolerance doesn't fly here. So, you coming with us or not?"
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From a televised conversation between talk show hosts airing in the Commonwealth of North America, a separate country after the Scots-Irish Revolution in 1849, and one airing in the Caribbean Confederacy, about the third-strongest power on the continent: the kingdom of Mexico. After the Aztecs defeated the conquistadores and adopted horses and firearms, they became a fierce power on the continent; worse, despite their relative weakness, the gold of [[California]], the water of the [[Colorado River]], and the oil of [[Texas]] have enabled them to successfully industrialize, as well as giving them significant Atlantic and Pacific ports. Although their capital is relatively close to their southern border, the disorganized nature of the states to their south- in some cases, little more than city-states, or confederacies thereof- there is little ability to contain the Mexicans there.
“We won a great tactical victory at Pearl Harbor and thereby lost the war.”
The omnibus quote from a Japanese admiral over how the actions in Pearl Harbor angered the Americans and got them fully engaged in war. The fact that Japan acknowledged the additional point of sowing distrust in the Japanese-American population instead led to the Roosevelt administration defying that.
The American response toward Japan was thorough, especially with the horrors revealed in what they did in China. As such, they left the British to deal with Japan and instead chose Korea as their ally on East Asia (though they also lent further assistance to China, if namely to ensure the communists didn’t get it).
To this day, relations remain complicated between Japan and the United States, and it left a large divide within the population over it, especially regarding British vs American influence (this also soured Anglo-American relationships compounded with the Americans’ refusal to get involved in Iran with the British and eventually, the Iranians went into the American sphere).
The Americans are very close to Korea instead and on somewhat good terms with China (If mainly to keep them from trying to influence Korea).
”When the Mexicans rejected Catholicism after the Revolution, we all thought they’d become Protestants. Who expected them to embrace Eastern Orthodoxy?”
qazse
Gone Fishin'
a quote from historian Alanquez Zanzibar on the Mexican Social Winds of 1920 - 1939. It was the Russian Empire's missionaries who managed to convert the Mexican leadership.
"Seeing the Saudis as a potential liability in Arabia, NATO and allies arranged for Hussein III to have a nastily little accident."
A story from a propaganda-based novel sold in the Kingdom of Arabia regarding the death of Hussein III, the crown prince of the Saudi dynasty, as part of a novel saying the Hashemite lineage was an American puppet. The novel was sold under a subsidary of Koch Publishing
After World War I, the breakdown of treaty negotiations led to the Americans being the ones to manage the remains of the Ottoman Empire. They granted much of the land to the Hashemites to create the Kingdom of Arabia along with a Jewish homeland, a Kurdish state and an Assyrian state. The Jewish homeland was neutral while Kurdistan and Assyria were republics that became prominently influenced by the Americans.
Arabia meanwhile became a goldmine of investment when the petrol was discovered though sold primarily to Europe (as they could more honestly price-gauge them and the Americans didn't have much need for their oil). Eventually, the wealth was invested and after World War II, the Kingdom of Arabia began rising a prominent regional power, influenced to under a large secularization and liberalization campaign.
However, the Saudi dynasty, retaining a prominent influence in the Nejd area and rising by stoking religious reactionary sentiment within the rural area, began causing trouble that concerned NATO, mainly though anti-Western rhetoric and inflammatory uprisings that could invite back the socialists. However, it all came to a head when Hussein III died suddenly in a car accident This spurred the supportes into rioting and accused NATO of murdering him, which they flat-out denied. In fact, controversy stirred up over mocking the religious reactionary radicals for claiming a vast conspiracy rthe than accept the Saudi prince was actually a reckless driver and hot-headed, a comment supported by some family members.
The comment led to an acceleration in seculaization though butterfly effect meant that it would cost Ronald Reagan the reelection in 1984, losing against Democrat George McGovern (who won the primary when the frontrunner in Mondale fell ill and left him standing) as Reagan's religious rhetoric and support would be viewed in the similar matter as those of the Sauds and compounded with the economic problems and tax cuts, it cost him. President McGovern would lead the nation to economic recovery, electroal reform and the expansion of the public benefits, such as universal single payer healthcare and so on in 1985-1993, continued by his running mate and successor in the presidency, Jesse Jackson in 1993-2001.
"The Germans' victory in exposing the Nazi sympathies of the British monarchy was short-lived as it just meant the people embraced socialism across the continent in the long run. The Day of Evil Exposure's is still celeberated by the Third International (not to be confused with the USSR's attempt at an International)"
qazse
Gone Fishin'
A quote from the book "A History of the European Continent Between the World Wars", more specifically page 137.
"With compromise no longer possible, Swabian forces crossed into Bavaria on March 17, 1927. Within three weeks the massive chain of alliances in Europe had activated and dragged the continent into a war that would prove to be the greatest yet."
A line from the 2nd episode of the award-winning Canadian epic historical documentary series "The 20th Century" (2009-2010), describing the begging of the First Great War (1927-31), which saw the end of over a century of European stability and order, the unification of several former HRE states, the fall of France to a far-left revolution, the collapse of the Russian Empire into numerous warlords and separatist movements, and the rise of ideologies like Syndicalism, National Populism, and Strasserism. The Second Great War (1950-1956) would start 19 years later, and outdo the First Great War on every front in the terms of death and destruction.
"Buddhist Polynesia, Islamic Siberia, Jewish America, and Zoroastrian Africa. Nobody 500 years ago would've even have thought those terms, let alone believe that they would be actual fact."
The opening narration to the first episode of the Ken Burns documentary series The History of the World Part I, the first episode explaining the rise of world religions and their importance and impact on the history and culture of the world.
"July 12, 1979. AKA Punk Demolition Night. That was the day punk died once for all. The 70's ended with disco winning and punk losing. In the end, nothing of value was lost."
The closing statement to Boogie Nights Forever, a rather odd film that came out in the 1990s that has been derived as a "bizarre piece of nostalgic pandering". The film was on the conflict of Disco as a musical genre clashing against the rising of the punk genre though one shown to glamorize the 1970s regarding musical culture along with venerating the culture of the time, despite the conflicts regarding President Nixon and President Reagan. July 12, 1979 was regarded within the film where Congress shut down punk for accusations of "Satan worship."
The film is derived as "nothing special in quality and self-indulgent in a petty" by modern film reviewers, earning half a star from Siskel and Ebert's Film Reviews. It has been said as having an odd fondness for older baby boomers while derived as as weird by younger baby boomers. In perhaps a jab at it, July 12, 1999 saw the release of Disco Malaise, a punk rock album that was inspired by the film, albeit one that was a scathing tone with the songs noting the problems of the 1970s, such as deregulation, the Depression caused by President Reagan, and others (with the line of Reagan doing more for the Middle East than America a line acknowledghe Reagan's main successes came from his hardline stance in the Middle East, mainly in convincing the Saudi monarchy to double down on liberalization and secularization against radical conservatives and playing hardball against the unstable Iran after they tried further negotiations when he refused to enter the Shah in, beginning the decline of Ayatollah Khomeini's reputation, resulting in the failure of his "Islamic republic" project."
The album became a large hit and contributed to the infamy of the film.
"I knew the neoliberals were desperate after they were more o less kicked out of the Democrat party, but I didn't expect to take over the Libretarian party and run Bill Clinton as their candidate for the 1992 election."
Joe Lieberman, Senator from Connecticut and the Democrat candidate in the 1992 Election, which was a landmark one when Clinton, a dark horse third-party candidate narrowly won the election by three electoral votes (but lost the popular vote to Bush).
In 1996, he switched party affiliation to the GOP and lost to Republican candidate Newt Gingrich, who presided over an unremarkable but quiet term coasting off the temporary prosperity of the dot com bubble before losing the 2000 Election to Bernie Sanders, an Independent with heavy backing from younger Democrat voters who were dissatisfied with Liberman, who ran again in 2000 with Diane Feinstein as his running mate.
"I remember the UMWA strikes back in 2000, the wildcat tactics, and the shootouts with Pittston's hired goons. Me and my friend Tetsuya Nomura were there and took part in them. We realized that a good M-80 will blow a mailbox completely over a house. I later found out that was a federal offense. But in the town of Dante, Virginia, that was a cool Halloween."
Bookmark1995
Banned
Excerpt from Hunter Thompson's 1989 book Lust and Bowing, in which he explores Japan and later brings Japanese to explore America.
You know what I've learned old man!? Your little master race is just sick joke! In America, people can get along just fine with one another. Sure things aren't perfect, but nobody has kill another man for a crumb of bread! YOU AND YOUR SICK LITTLE FUHRER MAKE IT THAT WAY!
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I'd say this has been done before, but I wouldn't say for certain unless others agreed. Either way, it seems close enough to warrant mention.
That’s the quote.
I cannot seem to boldface at this time.
Now, explain away.
(It’s from Rocketeer - 1991)
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Eh, fuck it, why not?
Ludendorff had been one of the young Hitler's key supporters during the Munich Putsch, and he'd even helped the party grow during Hitler's long prison sentence. So much so, in fact, that by the time Hitler left prison in 1933, he was effectively sidelined from his own creation. He was simply no longer needed in the new structure, which had grown up considerably since its days as an anti-communist street gang. By this point, it was a respectable(^1) and well-polished political party, well-accustomed to breaking and bending the notoriously-flimsy German election laws to serve their own ends without resorting to the baser tools of violence.
Now, Gregor Strasser was in charge of the party, and though he never officially stated it, he wasn't going to let his old rival back into the organization anytime soon. Regardless of that, he'd turned the party decidedly further to the left than Hitler was comfortable with, so Hitler bowed out and decided to pursue his old hobby of painting. Eventually, a renewed Depression in Germany would force Hitler to up stakes and seek a better life in America like so many of his generation. There, he would live quietly until 1939, when Ludendorff showed up at his doorstep. He'd been forced by the party to take a sabbatical due to his advancing age, and had decided to seek out his old pupil. The two met at the door of Hitler's lakeside studio in the Tahoe lake resort, where they got into a heated shouting match. Eventually, Hitler capped it off with the above quote, and Ludendorff stormed out into the night, never to be seen again. Hitler himself would die peacefully in his sleep in July of 1957.
(^1): well, at least they didn't get involved in gang fights too much anymore, and they'd officially disbanded the gangs in 1929
"Easy, Frankenstein. You ain't bulletproof!"
The words of a a jaded and bitter ex-NSDAP member, Adolf Hitler, to his old mentor, General Ludendorff.
Ludendorff had been one of the young Hitler's key supporters during the Munich Putsch, and he'd even helped the party grow during Hitler's long prison sentence. So much so, in fact, that by the time Hitler left prison in 1933, he was effectively sidelined from his own creation. He was simply no longer needed in the new structure, which had grown up considerably since its days as an anti-communist street gang. By this point, it was a respectable(^1) and well-polished political party, well-accustomed to breaking and bending the notoriously-flimsy German election laws to serve their own ends without resorting to the baser tools of violence.
Now, Gregor Strasser was in charge of the party, and though he never officially stated it, he wasn't going to let his old rival back into the organization anytime soon. Regardless of that, he'd turned the party decidedly further to the left than Hitler was comfortable with, so Hitler bowed out and decided to pursue his old hobby of painting. Eventually, a renewed Depression in Germany would force Hitler to up stakes and seek a better life in America like so many of his generation. There, he would live quietly until 1939, when Ludendorff showed up at his doorstep. He'd been forced by the party to take a sabbatical due to his advancing age, and had decided to seek out his old pupil. The two met at the door of Hitler's lakeside studio in the Tahoe lake resort, where they got into a heated shouting match. Eventually, Hitler capped it off with the above quote, and Ludendorff stormed out into the night, never to be seen again. Hitler himself would die peacefully in his sleep in July of 1957.
(^1): well, at least they didn't get involved in gang fights too much anymore, and they'd officially disbanded the gangs in 1929
"Easy, Frankenstein. You ain't bulletproof!"
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