If this is the case, do you reckon bees will factor into the battle?
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If this is the case, do you reckon bees will factor into the battle?
If they'are starting the war against the Germans now, it will be Tansania.
However, I doubt that the Russians would be that mad. At the moment, they don't even control all of their homeland, not to speak of Poland and Finland. This is not the situation where you start a war. They'd wait at least another year and try to subdue the rebels in the meantime.
Or maybe German New Guinea?
If its east-africa it gets really interesting when they get their bearings a little wrong and end up invading British east-africa.
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Well, given how sick Tsesarevich Alexei Nikolaevich was, actually this is morbidly appropriate, in a way.
Or maybe German New Guinea?
If its east-africa it gets really interesting when they get their bearings a little wrong and end up invading British east-africa.
First, if I remember correctly, Tanganjika gives a certain man named Ludendorff some action he'll desperately await.
Second, Britain will not, by any means, accept a Russian presence in the Indian ocean. If the Russians really attack Tanganjika, the British enter the war.
I still believe, though, that the Russians are nt that mad. There might occur some stupidities - as with the Baltic fleet - but I think these troops head for Europe. If the North of St. Petersburg is still open, that's a reasonable deployment. The storming of the city needs time, and my guess is that the Russian commanders want to smoke them out slowly.
Fun time insanity option: Russian paranoia struck true and incorrrectly arrived at the correct conclusion of an British-German Alliance.
In order to "RUSSIAN DELUSION" the British Empire in standing aside a naval invasion of Ireland will take place. The idea being that an independent Ireland and the navy units in irish ports would keep the Briths attention fosuced close to home and secure a valuable bargaining chip to placate the Brits with later.
Extra fun time option: Replace Ireland with Scotland
Super Extra Fun Time Madness option: Replace British with US, Ireland with Cuba.
You know, that does sound much nicer than the landing in Ludendorff's backyard.
The question is, when does Ivan Grozny realise he's actually Peter III?
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So its likely not going to be storming st peterburg, that would be a boringly sane decision.
i do like obfuscateds' options
And russian paranoia might not be at work here, it could just be that the okrana managed to get some vital information regarding the treaty.
Its not just delusion on the russians part, its also they are running out of time and they need a diversion abroad to calm the internal unrest. They are not going into the war to get territory after all. So most of the things will be aimed for political effect rather than military.
Just wondering if they might give the dardanelles a try, the russians wanted that for a long time.
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True, I missed that.
So Tanganjika then?
Another option would be to occupy/raid Chile. Germany is dependent on nitrates there, right? Without those nitrates, the better industrial capacity of Germany is levelled out to some extent.
If the Russians think there's an Anglo-German alliance, they might head for the Suez channel?
Or maybe they are thinking more directly: they lost Port Arthur, but need a warm water port in the Pacific. Kiautchou? Would instantly level out the recent Japanese success to some extent.
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At this point in time, I believe that everybody is dependent to some extent on Chilean nitrates. Russia seizing control of them would be a great way to piss off every other power simultaneously. So it's something that this Russia might actually think was a good idea.
Really? I once read that the US had their own sources. I suspected that Britain and Russia somewhere in their vast territories had some own sources as well, which would leave the other continental powers as most dependent?
finding locations for niter (KNO3) here - http://www.mindat.org/min-2917.html
nitratine (NaNO3) - http://www.mindat.org/min-2916.html
these are the 2 mineral sources for nitrates.
as you can see quite a lot of sites in the us.
Thank you for that link!
Now I'm not sure how high the US production capability was back then, but I guess the US could easily supply the fighting powers in Europe if Chile is out, hence this is not a good idea.
So, Tanganjika then?
In any case, it would be cool to see Ludendorff leading "Ober Ost Afrika" and defeating the Russians with his Askaris.
Ludendorff is good, but in this case the Russian will have to defeat themselves. The Schutztruppe amounts to under 500 men at the momennt, while Vitgeft brings over 10,000 into play.
Fortunately, the ITTL Russians are good at defeating themselves.
The Russians will not defeat themselves. The climate will defeat them. Sending troops adjusted to Siberia on ships into the tropics will eradicate the effectiveness. Schutztruppe and native fighters should be able to defeat them if they are using the correct tactic.
I'd say that counts. Well, that and having zero experience in African land warfare. The Russians hope to deliver dmoralising blows early and motivate France to join in, which means they confidently expect their men and ships to be reinforced by French colonial troops. If they aren't, well, it wasn't like they needed that particular infantry unit...
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