As I recall she was engaging the German raider with her final shells - Starshells - And scoring hits, when a German shell finds her forward magazine and blows the bow off. She goes down under full power of ~ 40 knots I believe, in Arctic seas during winter...
Dread Nought but the Fury of the Seas
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Real life the Scharnhorst listed 36 men from a crew of what? 2,200 men.....
The sea is enemy to all warring sides unfortunately.
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There were a couple of attempts but both came to nothing.
I doubt there's the appetite in the public for it or a company willing to make it these days, sadly.
I would disagree based on the imminent release of Greyhound - a film centered in the Captain of a US destroyer escorting an Atlantic convoy, based on CS Forester’s book, The Good Shepherd.
On a different topic and I might be wrong but I believe it has cropped up already - refitting ships. I don’t believe in this TL that you would see the extensive refits to QE and R-class ships that we did in OTLsimply because you can build replacement ships which will be better for almost the same price.
If they ever did make a film, then Ennio Morricone's The Ecstacy of Gold would be a brilliant sound track to the final scene.
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An American movie about an American, pretty much a Tom Hanks project. None of which would apply to HMS Ulysses. Without significant rewriting, of course.
True, but it could also be described as a film about a ship escorting a convoy, so there are certain similarities. I believe that we also have film studios in the UK - I won't hold my breathe but its not completely beyond the realms of possibility.
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Obviously it can be described as that, as that is what it is.
It is, however, made by an American studio with heavy interest from a major American star with a personal interest in WWII. Tom Hanks wanting to make the film is enough for it to happen, by some studio at least.
We have film studios in the U.K.? Thank you for pointing that out to me, I was obviously completely unaware of this simple fact.
My point was, however, there doesn’t seem to be the will, or public interest, for it to happen in the U.K.
Outside of some smaller budget efforts, I can’t think of any ‘proper’ WWII films made in the last decade or so. A naval warfare film in particular requires a hefty budget.
Fan made? With CGI as it is, all of the scenes with ships and combat are CGI so all you need actors for is the human element. There are a few very good fan made films out there and the plot is already written...
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Dunkirk? IMHO a proper WWII film but not the usual fare from the 1950s-1970s. Personally I preferred the Bernard Lee version.
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Good point. I should have written “proper WWII action film” but yes, Dunkirk is a good effort. I still think a large part of the reaction to the film (“more war films? God!” “why weren’t the crowds of soldiers more ethnically diverse?” “what about the people back home?” kind of articles) shows that maybe the British public - and hence the British film industry - aren’t in a place to make something like HMS Ulysses right now.
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After all that, a biopic of Jackie Fischer..?
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I note that it’s struggling for funding, though
OMG! WW1 admiral faces big-screen treatment
A World War 1 admiral is the unlikely subject for a big-screen biopic by a British filmmaker.
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I note that it’s struggling for funding, though
Love it.Love the title tooAnd its not waiving the rules...its a clever interpretation understanding of them. If there's one thing that politicians can do is fudge things.
Kinda reminds me of what the RN did OTL with the G3's.
-Order 4x before 1921 WNT.
-Order 7" deck armour for ships.
-Leak said order of 7" deck armour.
-Convince world it is belt armour and not deck armour.
Imagine the kittens the USN would have had if the G3's OTL were built then everybody else realized the 7" belt armour was in fact deck armour and the things actually carried a 14" belt!!
Or to put it another way, Yamato had 16" belt and 8" deck on 72,000t, 20 years later.
The G3's if they had ever been built would have been really as revolutionary as the Dreadnought was in 1906. Yes the weird turret placement amidships would have had blast issues but everything else was very impressive. You're talking about a ship thats got protection levels comparable to a Iowa class ship, and probably about the same kind of service speed, but with better TDS, in 1921
Yet they labelled it 'battlecruiser', British humour at its finest.
I sometime wonders where was the limit? If they had build these things, other nations would have to respond. If this escalate into unrestricted building race, what kind of monsters would they build after? By the 1940s OTL modern battleships would likely be dwarfed by the size of the new ships now under construction.
Budget and dockyard size. No point in building a 100k UBERVESSEL if you can't dock it anywhere but in the deepeset part of the channel. 60 - 70k tons would probably be about the upper limit really.
I think post WW1, the British went off speed than anything when classifying ships as BB/BC, Whitley mentions in Battleships of WW2 that the KGV’s were sometimes referred to as BC’s due to being capable of 28 knots