Different Bulgaria, different bulgarians. Discussion Thread

I am not an expert on the topic and would appreciate if someone with knowledge would comment and inform.;)

Thread Topic: Alternate Bulgarian ethnogenesis and effects in post 1900 world

From Wikipedia:
The population of Bulgaria descend from peoples with different origins and numbers. They became assimilated by the Slavic settlers in the First Bulgarian Empire, three of which left something remarkable.
  • the ancient pre-Slavic indigenous peoples, notably Thracians, from whom cultural and ethnic elements were taken;[52][53]
  • the Early Slavs from whom the language was inherited;
  • the Bulgars from whom the ethnonym and the early statehood were inherited.[54][55]
Later there has been disagreement about who the Bulgars really were. Some say that the Bulgars were a turkic people while others claim that they(the Bulgars) were a Iranic people. At different times in Bulgarias history, depending on the political context of the time, different theories of who the Bulgars really were has been popularised. The Bulgarians other ancestral elements, Thracian and Slavic has also been increasingly focused on as important to the Bulgarian identity depending on the political context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarians#Bulgarian_ethnogenetic_conception

There are three different possibilities of what kind of language was spoken by the Thracians before the Slavonic migration. Thracian as its own distinct language, a form of Greek or Latin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracian_language#Fate_of_the_Thracians_and_their_language

I wonder if we assume that another element had been the dominant in Bulgarian self conception and/or identity, how would that impact the politics of Bulgaria and the world at large?

Let's assume that everything is as in OTL exept that Bulgarians are not Slavic speakers. Meaning that ATL bulgarians inhabit the same land area, has the same population size and other similarities as OTL Bulgarians.

Scenarios
1. Bulgaria is dominated by Thracian(Thracian) elements:

2. Bulgaria is dominated by Thracian(Greek) elements:

3. Bulgaria is dominated by Thracian(Latin) elements:

4. Bulgaria is dominated by Bulgar(Turkic) elements:

5. Bulgaria is dominated by Bulgar(Iranic) elements:

How would these scenarios affect Bulgaria and its surrounding region culturally or politically?

With a POD in 1900 where this ATL Bulgaria has been similar to OTL Bulgaria up to 1900, how would this alternate Bulgaria impact the historical timeline?
Questions
1. Would a Turkic Bulgaria be more tied to Turkey?
2. Would a Iranic Bulgaria be more friendly with Iran?
3. Would a Iranic Bulgaria be friendly to the Kurds? Perhaps supporting a Kurdish insurgeny in Turkey?
4. Would a Greek speaking Bulgaria be more friendly to Greece, Greeks and Greek iredentism?
5. Would a Latin speaking Bulgaria be closer with Romania especially aswell as other romance countries? Closer as in diplomacy, politically, religously, culturally and economically.
6. Is there anything that i have missed?
 
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https://www.academia.edu/227792/The...c_notes_of_an_archaeologist_turned_historian_

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According to Nichols "the Slavic spread seem to have been the spread of Slavic Speach and ethnic identity, combined with Avar political and ideological institutions"


Page 132-133
According to Lunt, the sucess and mobility of the Slavic 'special border guards' of the Aviar qaganate "spread a homogenized lingua franca into settled communities all over Eastern Europe"
 
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