DBWI: Queen Victoria?

What if King Victor was born a girl? Too the best of my knowledge of British succession laws she'd still be the heir to her uncle.

However, Hanover's succession laws forbid female inheritance. So perhaps fewer wars in Germany?

Also things in India maybe quite different, Victorian era people may have been willing to turn a blind eye to a man siring exotic bastards, but something tells me hell would freeze over before the Queen beds an Indian prince. So the existence of the House of Bombay seems doubtful.
 
No intervention in Germany in 1866, which mean that Austria is expelled from Germany and a Prussia dominated Germany would be born; instead that the current situation when we have Germany divided in 26 states.
 
No intervention in Germany in 1866, which mean that Austria is expelled from Germany and a Prussia dominated Germany would be born; instead that the current situation when we have Germany divided in 26 states.
You also wouldn't get the Russian Empire's dominance of Central Europe that you have today; if the Prussian unification that Britain, Austria, and France thwarted in 1866 had worked then Russia would have had a country that could counter it right on its doorstep, rather than the only limit on its expansion being France after the Habsburg collapse in 1899. Given that, you probably wouldn't end up with Germany still under the monarchical heel rather than the united Republic it should be, and the Russians probably wouldn't have kicked the Brits out of Asia in the Great War. Britain might still own India rather than its Rajas being under the significantly lighter grip of the Tsar.

And all because old Victor couldn't damn well let go of Hanover. Honestly, I don't know why the Brits keep their monarch around.
 
I wouldn't define 1899 Augsleigch compact a collapse; yes, Austria had to renounce Bohemia, Hungary and Croatia, but Hapsbughs kept them under the Four-Way Monarchy and territorially it only lost Bucovina to Russia, Bosnia to Serbia, and Transylvania to Romania. What collapsed was the military apparate.
 
You also wouldn't get the Russian Empire's dominance of Central Europe that you have today; if the Prussian unification that Britain, Austria, and France thwarted in 1866 had worked then Russia would have had a country that could counter it right on its doorstep, rather than the only limit on its expansion being France after the Habsburg collapse in 1899. Given that, you probably wouldn't end up with Germany still under the monarchical heel rather than the united Republic it should be, and the Russians probably wouldn't have kicked the Brits out of Asia in the Great War. Britain might still own India rather than its Rajas being under the significantly lighter grip of the Tsar.

And all because old Victor couldn't damn well let go of Hanover. Honestly, I don't know why the Brits keep their monarch around.
What do you mean by under the grip of the Tsar? India is ruled by the House of Bombay remember? The Hannover cadet branch mentioned earlier? Its true the great war strained Britain enough that they were essentially forced too give up their Asian colonies and India, but the constitutional monarchy under the Bombays is an ally of Britain as well as Russia, not a Russian puppet, people just have that impression because of rascism and disbelief that India can prosper on its own.
 
What do you mean by under the grip of the Tsar? India is ruled by the House of Bombay remember? The Hannover cadet branch mentioned earlier? Its true the great war strained Britain enough that they were essentially forced too give up their Asian colonies and India, but the constitutional monarchy under the Bombays is an ally of Britain as well as Russia, not a Russian puppet, people just have that impression because of rascism and disbelief that India can prosper on its own.
OOC: sorry, didn't read it carefully enough
Sure, but the key point is that Britain lost its status as a world superpower with India; British influence in India was a Russian concession so Britain would allow Russian hegemony over the Middle East and possession of Tsargrad.
 

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Also things in India maybe quite different, Victorian era people may have been willing to turn a blind eye to a man siring exotic bastards, but something tells me hell would freeze over before the Queen beds an Indian prince. So the existence of the House of Bombay seems doubtful.
The House of Bombay was originally being King Victor giving his Hyderabad bastard, Thomas-Rajesh, his own Princely State at Bombay (which was under direct British Rule before, more or less). Said move has mixed reception back then, with most of the Indian population receiving well having autonomy and democracy, while the Muslims was repulsed by Prince Thomas-Rajesh being a Christian despite coming from Muslim mother.

Of course, the resulting Islamic Rebellion ended up cementing the Hindu-Christian alliance, and The House of Bombay gained prestige enough, that when Russia started pounding British Colonial Holdings at Asia, the Entire British Asian Colonies from Kashmir to Malaya declare their Independence (with Russian help through the backdoor) as "The Maharajdom of India" with Maharajah Stephen-Aditya as (what else) Emperor of the Biggest Polity on Earth.

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Yeah, the Indian secession was received poorly by the Anglo-Hanover Branch of House Hanover, but it remains an interesting fact that The Indian Maharajah would actually inherit British and or Hanoverian Thrones if The London Hanover becoming extinct (in male lines for the Hanover, and in all lines for British Empire), simply because the fact that they were still Anglican Christians and thus, can't be skipped because King Victor fucking legitimized Thomas-Rajesh as a Prince. The risk then doubled because while European branches only have one wife each, The House of Bombay practice concubinage and add that with having Romanov Princess married twice into the line (that cemented their alliance with the Russians).

Without Thomas-Rajesh's existence, even if India ended up separating from British Empire, they would likely becoming a Republic or at least having Non-Blood-Related Monarch coming from the Princely stock, and thus the existence of House of Bombay won't threaten the London Hanover.
 
Any chance that Belgium would survive longer than it did IOTL ?
I mean, they didn't do too badly for the 18 years they lasted, but let's face it, the Belgian Wettins (Saxe-Coburg IIRC) never managed good relations with Britain, and with France and the Dutch both eager to get their land, the 1848 partition was to be expected in the long run.
 
Any chance that Belgium would survive longer than it did IOTL ?
I mean, they didn't do too badly for the 18 years they lasted, but let's face it, the Belgian Wettins (Saxe-Coburg IIRC) never managed good relations with Britain, and with France and the Dutch both eager to get their land, the 1848 partition was to be expected in the long run.
Possibly. Hm... imagine a TL where Belgium is independent and Westphalia isn't. You'd still have a small but heavily industrialized Wettin kingdom, just slightly further west.
 
Possibly. Hm... imagine a TL where Belgium is independent and Westphalia isn't. You'd still have a small but heavily industrialized Wettin kingdom, just slightly further west.
Yupe. It'd also means France would have significantly less punching power. There's a lot of coalfields in Wallonia and Luxembourg.
 
The House of Bombay was originally being King Victor giving his Hyderabad bastard, Thomas-Rajesh, his own Princely State at Bombay (which was under direct British Rule before, more or less). Said move has mixed reception back then, with most of the Indian population receiving well having autonomy and democracy, while the Muslims was repulsed by Prince Thomas-Rajesh being a Christian despite coming from Muslim mother.

Of course, the resulting Islamic Rebellion ended up cementing the Hindu-Christian alliance, and The House of Bombay gained prestige enough, that when Russia started pounding British Colonial Holdings at Asia, the Entire British Asian Colonies from Kashmir to Malaya declare their Independence (with Russian help through the backdoor) as "The Maharajdom of India" with Maharajah Stephen-Aditya as (what else) Emperor of the Biggest Polity on Earth.

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Yeah, the Indian secession was received poorly by the Anglo-Hanover Branch of House Hanover, but it remains an interesting fact that The Indian Maharajah would actually inherit British and or Hanoverian Thrones if The London Hanover becoming extinct (in male lines for the Hanover, and in all lines for British Empire), simply because the fact that they were still Anglican Christians and thus, can't be skipped because King Victor fucking legitimized Thomas-Rajesh as a Prince. The risk then doubled because while European branches only have one wife each, The House of Bombay practice concubinage and add that with having Romanov Princess married twice into the line (that cemented their alliance with the Russians).

Without Thomas-Rajesh's existence, even if India ended up separating from British Empire, they would likely becoming a Republic or at least having Non-Blood-Related Monarch coming from the Princely stock, and thus the existence of House of Bombay won't threaten the London Hanover.
The lack of the Bombay’s existence would also have huge repercussions outside of Asia. Although the Indian Secession pretty much ended Britain’s existence as a major world power, it may have ended up actually saving its empire in the long run, as without it the precedent for spinning off regions where independence movements were getting too big to deal with successfully as independent British allies with a Hannover cadet on the throne like in Ireland and South Africa would never be established, and thus when those countries inevitably broke free of British control Britain likely wouldn’t be able too retain the massive amount of influence on them they still maintain through family connections, and instead would be eventually left with nothing but Britain itself.
 
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as independent British allies with a Hannover cadet on the throne like in Ireland
Prince George (of Ireland) was an oddball case of falling in love and eloping with Sinead O'Neill, an Irish Catholic girl while being the Prince of Wales. When The House of Lords and King William V formally disinherited him from the British Throne, The Irish Parliament, who already having independent aspirations, invited the rogue Prince and outright offered to crown him as High King of Ireland if he agrees to convert to Catholicism just to spite the English. Prince George, being practically penniless(!) and according to his own words, living on the run with his then common law wife from one friend's house to another, apparently said "feck it, I'm Irish now" and thus the House of Dublin was born, together with the awkwardness of Irish Independence (that sees British loyalists' number dropped since many Irish did see Prince Geoege's story as a romantic one).

The High King George I of Ireland would later reconcile with the rest of the British Royal Family and The Hanover Dublin Branch was accepted as fait accompli, but it took seven years of troubles before London finally decided that trying to stamp out "Prince George's Irish Rebellion" was not worth it.

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At least the Praetoria branch of House Hanover was formed in much more amicable situation, and the resistance against it was from the White Boers who did not want to be ruled by half-black Monarchs.

But yeah, it has been joked that the propensity of British Princes having the hots of *Exotic* Girls was inherited from King Victor I. Thank God that current Queen is of Canadian origin and not triggering a Canadian secession back then.
 
I rather think that if he were a typical Hanovarian male the Monarchy might be less popular. They were famous for what would be seen as sexual immorality
 

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I rather think that if he were a typical Hanovarian male the Monarchy might be less popular. They were famous for what would be seen as sexual immorality
King Victor is indeed being a fine "connoisseur" of exotic women, hell, the two of the most famous Hanover "Bastard" Branches are House of Bombay in India and House of Praetoria in South Africa, being started by legitimized bastard sons from a Hyderabad and a Lesotho Princesses respectively.
 
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