I would say yes, because the Lithuanian story was not so much a story of a people but a story of house.
Hmm.. How that?I agree, it was really a Belorussian nation more than anything else.
Hmm.. How that?
But not core territory. As well as the nobility mostly Lithuanian.The vast majority of its territory is outside the lands of the Liths.
But not core territory. As well as the nobility mostly Lithuanian.
The territory that was under direct control of the grand dukes, provided most of military forces and paid most of taxes. Most other territory was under various vassal princes.I don't know about the nobility part (so if you say so, I'm taking your word for it), but how are you defining core territory?
The territory that was under direct control of the grand dukes, provided most of military forces and paid most of taxes. Most other territory was under various vassal princes.
Too late. At the time Lithuania was already growing in the power.If the Teutonic Order either doesn't form or doesn't go to the Baltic, how about a genuinely Prussian 'Greater Prussia' that expands eastwards through Lithuania and maybe also takes over some other lands around the south-eastern coasts of the Baltic... and then, perhaps, a Polish-Prussian Union?
They fought rather successfully Danish and Sweden attempts to conquer, but they were in decline after 11th century.Livonia isn't plausible for such expansion, they were too minor for it.
*Couronians- Very strong fraction, if you could for example make the Seeborg/Grobina viking city survive and make it strong enough to want to conquer Couronians I could see the Couronians do same as the Irish did against the vikings in Dublin ie elect a High King and unite themselves to go to war against Seeborg.
The Bad thing with Couronians is that it was actually 2 nations-Baltic Couronians and Livonian Couronians, so at one point Livonian Couronians would maybe revolt against "true Couronians"
That may be too late:To make your TL ambitions possible, this should take place a bit earlier than with Lithuania IOTL - let's say, first half of 13th century.
Lithuania joined the "Occident" relatively late (compared to Poland, Russia, Sweden), but much earlier than the other peoples in the Baltic region.
This didn't yet imply that it would become an important part of a great power (Poland-Lithuania), but it gave the country the opportunity to play an independent role.
So basically you are asking that one of the other peoples in that region
a) manages to found a somewhat stable and defensible state,
b) converts to Christianity, which - in the logic of that time - also implies the acceptance of certain rule in the relation with foreign nobility.
To make your TL ambitions possible, this should take place a bit earlier than with Lithuania IOTL - let's say, first half of 13th century.
Only then you would have a state and a noble class that could actually enter the game (where you want them to win a nice prize).
Lithuania joined the "Occident" relatively late (compared to Poland, Russia, Sweden), but much earlier than the other peoples in the Baltic region.
This didn't yet imply that it would become an important part of a great power (Poland-Lithuania), but it gave the country the opportunity to play an independent role.
So basically you are asking that one of the other peoples in that region
a) manages to found a somewhat stable and defensible state,
b) converts to Christianity, which - in the logic of that time - also implies the acceptance of certain rule in the relation with foreign nobility.
To make your TL ambitions possible, this should take place a bit earlier than with Lithuania IOTL - let's say, first half of 13th century.
Only then you would have a state and a noble class that could actually enter the game (where you want them to win a nice prize).
United to deal with one or another wave of those attacks?Also the Prussians are an interesting player, but how would they unite?
United to deal with one or another wave of those attacks?