Cold War alternative mini-scenarios thread

[walmart]

what if the competing Leninist and Maoist revolutionaries there end up duking it out in a proxy conflict involving China and the USSR?

As I posted earlier. This is otl.

 

[Monk78]

in 1974 the RVN is already on its deathbed. The 1988 Johnson South Reef Skirmish is more likely to become a consequential conflict.

And how do you see this 1988 conflict playing out ?

 

[SealTheRealDeal]

And how do you see this 1988 conflict playing out ?

PLAN still stomps the VPN, in retaliation the Vietnamese step up their operations in the still on-going Sino-Vietnamese Border War, PLA steps up their operations in reply, so on and so on up the escalation ladder.

 

[Monk78]

PLAN still stomps the VPN, in retaliation the Vietnamese step up their operations in the still on-going Sino-Vietnamese Border War, PLA steps up their operations in reply, so on and so on up the escalation ladder.

Can this lead to a second Chinese invasion?

 

[SealTheRealDeal]

Can this lead to a second Chinese invasion?

dunno

 

[Monk78]

dunno

In 1988 ussr is not bailing out the Vietnamese so I’d say it’s possible
Nor is US trying to deter the Chinese

 

[Gillan1220]

dunno

In 1988 ussr is not bailing out the Vietnamese so I’d say it’s possible
Nor is US trying to deter the Chinese

At this period, the PLA and the PVA were still fighting a border war. That border war only ended in 1990.

 

[purple_princess]

Apart fron the 'Stans - despite official condemnation there were substantial numbers of devout Moslems in the USSR.

Yes, exactly. I didn´t want to go into too much detail because I do not have the time, but I did not even begin to speak of the many Muslim majority autonomies within the RSFSR unit, with Chechnya being the obvious one that comes to mind.

 

[the Imperium of Canada]

I thought a particularly ironic one would be the Soviet Union managing to win the Cold War somehow, only for a united GDR Germany and Red France managing to end up essentially economically hijacking the Warsaw Pact out from under it as it's grip over it's satellite states and allies slowly starts to erode.

Not sure how'd you set up something like that though.

 

[Wendell]

Bolivia accepts Pinochet's land swap plan.

 

[Monk78]

Cuba loans a small island to hardline communists during Cold War as a secret base to train insurgents to fuel Latin America liberation movements

 

[walmart]

Cuba loans a small island to hardline communists during Cold War as a secret base to train insurgents to fuel Latin America liberation movements

This is otl if you count the Island of Cuba as small

 

[Monk78]

This is otl if you count the Island of Cuba as small

True but I was thinking a much smaller and secret operational base

 

[Monk78]

ETA with soviet support gets more active against Spain in the 1980s

 

[Monk78]

Cod war leads to a Icelandic vessel sinking a few British trawlers leaving fishermen to die in freezing arctic waters
RN responds by a task force that conducts shore bombardment of Reykjavik

USSR offers military help to Iceland in return

 

[SealTheRealDeal]

What if Franco had a son rather than a daughter?

True but I was thinking a much smaller and secret operational base

So the transfer actually happens ittl?

 

[Monk78]

A soviet airliner is shot down by Japanese interceptors over international waters mistaken for a bomber
How will USSR respond ?

 

[Gillan1220]

Cod war leads to a Icelandic vessel sinking a few British trawlers leaving fishermen to die in freezing arctic waters
RN responds by a task force that conducts shore bombardment of Reykjavik

USSR offers military help to Iceland in return

Iceland gets owned in both scenarios. The U.S. and the UK would not allow the Soviets to have a foothold in the GIUK gap.

 

[Gillan1220]

A soviet airliner is shot down by Japanese interceptors over international waters mistaken for a bomber
How will USSR respond ?

A reverse KAL 007.

 

[Monk78]

Iceland gets owned in both scenarios. The U.S. and the UK would not allow the Soviets to have a foothold in the GIUK gap.

Mostly I think soviet offers will be empty rhetoric apart from sending a couple of naval ships they don’t have the capability to do much anyway