They were double lucky, if either the Aragonese rebellion ends faster or they do not secure Pope´s ( tacit ) help the Portugese could loose, badly.
They would probably rebel later ... maybe in the War of Spanish Succession they support the Archduke Charles? talk about an even more complicated war ...
Eh? Napoleon would still arise if Portugal was just a region in Spain after 1580?Well,they would have stayed united if spain wasn't so weakened beacuse of the war with basically all western europe.I don't think it would affect so much the colonies though.Maybe some trading post remained in spanish hands untill the 20th century but all in all the otl portoguese colonies would be indepndent much more earlier (brazil in the 1800s during napoleon's invasion and the african colonies in the 1950-1970 togheter with the rest of the spanish colonies.
Eh? Napoleon would still arise if Portugal was just a region in Spain after 1580?
Yes,mnapoleon had arised whitout connection to spain so i don't see how it will prevent napoleon from arising.
But Spain had an enormous influence on French politics, so the conditions that made it possible for Napoleon to rise through the ranks will be different. This is of course assuming the birth of Napoleon wouldn't be butterflied away, which it would.Yes,mnapoleon had arised whitout connection to spain so i don't see how it will prevent napoleon from arising.
There was an agreement explicitly forbeeding the union of the thrones of france and spain so that event would be considered as asb.Napoleon did arise in connection to Spain: he arose in connection to a world where the house of Bourbon does not have a single king sitting on a throne ruling everything from the Rhine to Lisbon along with most of Italy, or ruling the Americas from the Tierra del Fuego to the northern border of California, let alone this everything incuding Brazil. A lot of butterflies can happen if a) Spain is stronger and b) France is stronger, especially since as of 1640 it's almost too late to butterfly away the war of spanish succession short of everyone else in Europe committing political suicide and saying "thank you, hit me one more time please" to Phillip V of Spain and VI of France. Or a lucky child, but that's a bit of a Scriptor ex Machina.
Similarly Napoleon arose in a France that went bankrupt after fighting for the independence of the US. This also involved Spain: in fact it involved Spain even in the 7yw which gave rise to the resentment against Britain in the first place, as they lost Louisiana then and Spain didn't really give a damn about it.
There was an agreement explicitly forbeeding the union of the thrones of france and spain so that event would be considered as asb.
There was an agreement explicitly forbeeding the union of the thrones of france and spain so that event would be considered as asb.
Yes,but i don't see portugal at the spanish hands so long anyway.Eventually nationalism will arise (naturally enough) and then spain will have quite a time maintain order in portugal which will probably cost them troops and money and will open a door for other powers intervention.Even in the unlikely case of everything in France happens as in OTL and Napoleon still arises, all the odds are against a Peninslular War. Remember, the excuse to introduce french troops in Spain was the invasion of Portugal. Even if TTL Spain and TTL France end in different sides during the napoleonic wars, you don't cross the Pyrenees happily if they don't open the doors to you from the other side.
On the other hand, with Portugal directly implied in the fight and being part of the prize in this hypothetical SWS, the development and result of the war could be very different, as the clauses imposed and/or accepted by the winner in the peace treaty.
Yes,but i don't see portugal at the spanish hands so long anyway.Eventually nationalism will arise (naturally enough) and then spain will have quite a time maintain order in portugal which will probably cost them troops and money and will open a door for other powers intervention.
Nationalism in pre-napoleonic times?
Because in general, Early Modern Governments demanded a LOT more from their populations and people quite naturally resented having more demands placed on them. The majority of people were rural and they certainly didn't see a lot of gain from these governments.Well,not nationalism as an organised movements.But nationalism as a general concept was there since the creation of states.Otherwise why people would have been drive by a desire to preserve they are own culture started to rebel against government who brough great economical and technological development to their area?
Because in general, Early Modern Governments demanded a LOT more from their populations and people quite naturally resented having more demands placed on them. The majority of people were rural and they certainly didn't see a lot of gain from these governments.