A worthy opponent to the 3.7 inch gun strapped on top of a Ram tank!
Alternative History Armoured Fighting Vehicles Part 4
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A worthy opponent to the 3.7 inch gun strapped on top of a Ram tank!
More 3.7 inch Rammy goodness… 👍
Waaaat! I didn't know this version... that's insane, the poor tank...
I've actually tried that, but it looked horrible...
Yes, exactly!
I don't think there's ever been a multi-turret that hasn't looked terrible, although the NeubauDecktheHalls is probably the handsomest for exactly the same reason it needs showing up by by HMS The Old Gang.
Don't be mean to the A1E1. It only needs copper turrets, big brass rivets and a funnel to become a steampunk icon. I'll concede that the Char 2C with the 105mm main gun is a potential rival after similar treatment.Yes, exactly!
I don't think there's ever been a multi-turret that hasn't looked terrible, although the NeubauDecktheHalls is probably the handsomest for exactly the same reason it needs showing up by by HMS The Old Gang.
But once we're talking angular turrets I'm right with you that they look pretty awful.
Ooh... TOG with A1E1's turret group and sponson guns like it was originally supposed to have...
The TOG ride continues. The divisions now have their own mobile fire suport, thanks to mating a BL 5.5" field gun on a TOG chassis
(my original intention was to use the 7.2", but that was simply too massive, even if overall lengh is almost the same)
(my original intention was to use the 7.2", but that was simply too massive, even if overall lengh is almost the same)
WE need this!The TOG ride continues. The divisions now have their own mobile fire suport, thanks to mating a BL 5.5" field gun on a TOG chassis
(my original intention was to use the 7.2", but that was simply too massive, even if overall lengh is almost the same)
BTW if Claymore wants to avoid withdrawl syptoms once the Ratte is finished this should be an interesting project!
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Wieczorek Engin blindé de combat (EBC) and Engin blindé de combat lourds (EBCL) - Tank Encyclopedia
Wieczorek's EBC and EBCL take the modern MBT to its most extreme forms, with super-heavy weight, large armament, and more.
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I have gone to the French military archives again last WE, and finished uploading what I found here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NtDxrFn1oysb8TDZ6 (starting with the updates of the 18th, with the Lorraine APC/supply vehicle/prime mover).
The new stuff doesn't really provide any alternate ideas but they adress the future tanks that France wanted in the springs of 1941 (transitional tanks) and 1942 (future tanks). Their specs are not really unknown for the initiated but you don't find them everywhere so might be nice for you guys. At least it confirms the production variant of AMX-38 was indeed desired for early 1941.
Otherwise some pics of the Lorraine APC, Saint-Chamond WW1 tank during assembly and trials, 1920's prototypes, miscellaneous text on motorization (like command vehicles and the specs for the AMR class of vehicles). And finally, manuals for the FCM 36, Renault UE supply tankette and Renault FT.
The real deal are the 1938-40 discussions on the so-called Fortification Assault Tank, which corresponds to the superheavy projects like the FCM F1. They mostly explain the thinking behind some of their features and evolution (armor, armament, crossing capability), with some drawings of the obstacles they may have to cross in the Siegfried line (here modeled after the Maginot Line).
"All armament and supplies are procured through Czechoslovakian industry. However, the industry cannot produce fast tanks. The value of fast tanks is enormous, which they were fully convinced of when they saw our exercises in 1935. Krejčí asks to give them one battalion of fast BT tanks to reinforce their army. He offered to exchange the tanks for any of their own products."
"My answers: Regarding purchasing BT tanks, I confirmed that the combat abilities of our tanks are high and that I will report to the People's Commissar of Defense upon my return to Moscow and will inform him of the results."
"Proposals: I consider it reasonable to sell the Czechs a battalion of BT tanks in return for technical aid, particularly in the fields of producing tank armour, armour piercing shells, high quality tools, measurement devices, and molds. The Czechs are excellent at this."
https://www.tankarchives.ca/2021/02/export-to-czechoslovakia.html
The more interesting alternate idea I found elsewhere is this. Czechoslovakian imports of BT tanks, and possibly greater CZ-USSR cooperation in the late 30s.
The new stuff doesn't really provide any alternate ideas but they adress the future tanks that France wanted in the springs of 1941 (transitional tanks) and 1942 (future tanks). Their specs are not really unknown for the initiated but you don't find them everywhere so might be nice for you guys. At least it confirms the production variant of AMX-38 was indeed desired for early 1941.
Otherwise some pics of the Lorraine APC, Saint-Chamond WW1 tank during assembly and trials, 1920's prototypes, miscellaneous text on motorization (like command vehicles and the specs for the AMR class of vehicles). And finally, manuals for the FCM 36, Renault UE supply tankette and Renault FT.
The real deal are the 1938-40 discussions on the so-called Fortification Assault Tank, which corresponds to the superheavy projects like the FCM F1. They mostly explain the thinking behind some of their features and evolution (armor, armament, crossing capability), with some drawings of the obstacles they may have to cross in the Siegfried line (here modeled after the Maginot Line).
"All armament and supplies are procured through Czechoslovakian industry. However, the industry cannot produce fast tanks. The value of fast tanks is enormous, which they were fully convinced of when they saw our exercises in 1935. Krejčí asks to give them one battalion of fast BT tanks to reinforce their army. He offered to exchange the tanks for any of their own products."
"My answers: Regarding purchasing BT tanks, I confirmed that the combat abilities of our tanks are high and that I will report to the People's Commissar of Defense upon my return to Moscow and will inform him of the results."
"Proposals: I consider it reasonable to sell the Czechs a battalion of BT tanks in return for technical aid, particularly in the fields of producing tank armour, armour piercing shells, high quality tools, measurement devices, and molds. The Czechs are excellent at this."
https://www.tankarchives.ca/2021/02/export-to-czechoslovakia.html
The more interesting alternate idea I found elsewhere is this. Czechoslovakian imports of BT tanks, and possibly greater CZ-USSR cooperation in the late 30s.
Tat would be interesting not only to see what that cooperation would lead to but also to see how the UK would react
Twas the Night Before Christmas
And all through the house
Nothing was stirring
Not even a Maus.....
