The Germans were all over it with their Wiesel tankette…
The Wiesels were very interesting to watch in Afghanistan. It was sort of unusual to see an Italian helicopter lifting a German tank.
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Alternative History Armoured Fighting Vehicles Part 3
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That's because you're using it like a regular cannon. The way to use recoilless rifles on AFVs is to mount a whole bunch of them like an M50 Ontos (which normal cannons are too heavy and have too much recoil for) and then it becomes useful, like a multiple rocket launcher in direct fire.
Invariably voice, rather than hand signals are used when operating with armour. Armour prevents you from seeing much because of dust, exhaust and so on. Voice is a surer communication method and as the noise of the vehicle make sure the enemy knows of your presence anyway, the need for stealth is ended...
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Ringing ears?
T31 Sherman Demolition Tank is the fix for that
Flamethrower, two 7.2" rocket launcher with a revolver reloading on each side, two .30s and a .50 cherry on top
IIRC, the twin 25-pdr mount was done to test if the chassis/turret could handle the recoil of a 17-pdr by firing both guns at once. I can only imagine how much of a nightmare the twin 25-pdrs would be to load in the event it entered service.
I mean, a high profile can be an issue, but it had not stopped the Egyptians from fitting an AMX-13 turret and gun on a Sherman. It's probably an example the Israelis probably took to heart after capturing one and designing the M-50 & M-51.
The Egyptian M4/AMX-13 hybrid and the Israeli M-50 were contemporary designs from the mid 1950s, one wasn't influenced from the other. This stems from the fact that the French were helping out both countries pretty much simultaneously.
The AE1 independent would make a great steampunk land battleship if you made the turrets out of rivetted brass and copper.
The Char 2c would also be good for steampunk. Add a funnel and a few casemated secondary guns (initially 37mm infantry guns with a few 13.2mm). The OTL 105mm armed variant - preferably upgunned to a 155 - would look about right.
Sadly I lack the artistic skills to do them justice.
Thanks. The bottom one looks more like a tank, even if the turret is a bit on the odd side.
M114 variant
T114 BATwwith 106mmRR
It was never intended to enter service! It was purely a test vehicle. They couldn't source a 17 Pdr from the UK but wanted to test the Sentinel mounting one so hit upon use two 25 Pdrs simulteanously. It was not intended as a service mounting. The turret was loaded and then vacated when the weapon was fired. Its greatest contribution was to the development of the Firefly. The British read about it and decided to mount a 17 Pdr in a Sherman turret.
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internals don't quite match up like they would need to be
Everything is really... snug
SU-76 popped drivetrain over to the side to get room for the driver, who had drivetrain on one side, and fuel tanks on other
doing a front engine T-34 with existing V2 motor is *hard*
For a British mid 1960's fire support vehicle how about an Abbot chassis with the Saladin Turret?
just stick with a complete abbot i'd say, probably better terrain capabilities
wietze is probably right about the Abbot as a dedicated Fire Support Vehicle but a tracked reconnaissance version of the Abbot might be fun and in keeping with the overall FV432 family. I present the FV444 Scarab AVR(T) - mounting the 76mm gunned Saladin turret and capable of carrying a couple of dismounts...
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