I suspect it will be the lighter turrets of V1 and V4 but I will test them all and see how they look. The original Sk.Kfz. 234/1 and 234/2 turrets might do as well. Watch this space… 👍
Alternative History Armoured Fighting Vehicles Part 3
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I suspect it will be the lighter turrets of V1 and V4 but I will test them all and see how they look. The original Sk.Kfz. 234/1 and 234/2 turrets might do as well. Watch this space… 👍
At work.
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Again, not wanting to push things into 'Space-bat' territory, but the designs will be used in an "Alternate future Traveller" universe.
So... 'Form a liitle bit over function'.
Think of it as if some modern military wanted a 8x8 but they didn't want to 'Reinvent the wheel' (Hah! ) and so build a modern 'Clone' of the Sd.Fkz series.
Much like some tour company was touting to build a 'Modern Titanic' to capitalize on the nostalgia.
Much cheers and very best wishes to all.
*Nods*
Again, not wanting to push things into 'Space-bat' territory, but the designs will be used in an "Alternate future Traveller" universe.
So... 'Form a liitle bit over function'.
Think of it as if some modern military wanted a 8x8 but they didn't want to 'Reinvent the wheel' (Hah!
) and so build a modern 'Clone' of the Sd.Fkz series.Much like some tour company was touting to build a 'Modern Titanic' to capitalize on the nostalgia.
Much cheers and very best wishes to all.
At work.
*Nods*
Again, not wanting to push things into 'Space-bat' territory, but the designs will be used in an "Alternate future Traveller" universe.
So... 'Form a liitle bit over function'.
Think of it as if some modern military wanted a 8x8 but they didn't want to 'Reinvent the wheel' (Hah!
Much like some tour company was touting to build a 'Modern Titanic' to capitalize on the nostalgia.
Much cheers and very best wishes to all.
Well I tried all of the M24-JX-Scout turrets and, as I suspected, all bar the V1 were too big for the relatively narrow top of the covered Mammoth. This was not at first apparent from the side view so I drew up a front elevation of the covered Mammoth first to give me something to work with. As an alternative to the very open mount of the M24-JX-Scout V1, I have also drawn up the Mammoth with the 20mm turret from an HS.30 IFV which keeps all of the ammunition feed inside the vehicle. This is about as good as you will get as the sloped sides of the original Mammoth troop compartment limits the art of the possible. Enjoy!!
Claymore I have a question for you. What would a KV look like if you mounted Cannone da 75/32 modello 37 into the turret or would that even be possible?
Another one is a BT-5 with a Cannone da 47/32.
Another one is a BT-5 with a Cannone da 47/32.
Both of those guns are somewhat smaller than the original Soviet guns in the KV and BT.
As the man says, both guns are smaller/shorter than some variants of the Soviet guns fitted to the KV-1 and BT-5 respectively. I‘ll have a look to see if I have them on file but I suspect the end result won’t make the original vehicles look that different.
Not sure, will have to do some digging. Although, I am inclined to say no and maybe respectively. Will get back to you…
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So, at first glance from the drawing below it would seem to be plausible but I haven't found any specific numbers for the turret ring size of the Type 61 and so I can's be sure taht it would fit the 73" (1854mm) ring of the M41. I have taken the 105mm gun from the Type 74 tank and doing a quick SWAG of the turret lengths, it may well be possible to shoe-horn in the L7...
Maybe, and the additional weight and its impact on the suspension might be a major issue although the Type 61 wasn't particularly heavily armoured. Here is the original M41A1 for comparison.
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Just for improve my own understanding, but if the Type 61 turret matched the M 41 hull. Then the suspension and possibly the engine would need to be upgraded to handle the additional weight.
What benefits would the Type 61 turret bring relative to the M 41 turret? Certainly more room is always nice to have, if only to store more jack rations
.Just for improve my own understanding, but if the Type 61 turret matched the M 41 hull. Then the suspension and possibly the engine would need to be upgraded to handle the additional weight.
What benefits would the Type 61 turret bring relative to the M 41 turret? Certainly more room is always nice to have, if only to store more jack rations
The original M41 turret carried a 76mm gun and was not particularly liked by the US Army because the turret was cramped - the Belgians adapted it with a new turret to carry a 90mm Cockerill which perhaps suggests that squeezing a 90 gun into the original turret was impracticable. The Type 61 turret carried, as standard, the same 90mm gun as the M48. In @cortz#9 ’s proposal the Type 61 turret has a 105mm gun fitted - this might be a possibility but certainly wouldn’t fit into the original M41 turret.
A pic of the Belgian 90mm M41 (note the turret ring adapter)…
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I suspect that was because of a reduced turret ring of the new turret fitted by the Belgians. That would be possible because of the reduced pressure of the weapon used.
Very interesting. If the extra weight wasn't too bad, it might've made a good jungle fighter.
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