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Bracken over Socialism

Harper is like the hardest person in the world to find non-creepy photos of...

They need all the seats for a majority now! ;)

Damn it, good catch. I'll edit it tomorrow.

Witch, witch! Somebody get me my pitchfork for God's sake!

A question to the Canadian and British members, I want to ask some questions about an area having a snap election for the Prime Minister? I'm talking about when the PM loses their seat, and a member resign so they can run:

1.) Does the PM need to be a member of the House to carry out their duties (not a member of the Senate or House of Lords), or is it just convention?

2.) Does the now seatless member get something out of the deal for giving their boss their seat?

3.) Do the voters in the area ever feel unrepresented because they're expected to elect the PM and not a member of their own choice?

I ask here because I figured their would be a lot of answers here if I asked (and to clear the next page for something special).

Well, seeing as the Prime Minister isn't even mentioned in the constitution, I imagine it's more just convention. Theoretically (and this idea has always intrigued me), but a Prime Minister without a seat could, for instance, appoint himself to the Senate.
 
Harper is like the hardest person in the world to find non-creepy photos of...



Damn it, good catch. I'll edit it tomorrow.



Well, seeing as the Prime Minister isn't even mentioned in the constitution, I imagine it's more just convention. Theoretically (and this idea has always intrigued me), but a Prime Minister without a seat could, for instance, appoint himself to the Senate.

Well both John Abbott and Mackenzie Bowell served as Prime Minister while residing in the Senate. Also yes, it's impossible not to find a picture of Harper where his eyes don't leave you feeling like you should crawl up into a ball and cry.
 
Every man wants to be President. Since the election of Andrew Jackson, every little boy grew up thinking one day, he could become President. He could be a hero and remembered in history books. Even old dying men held that belief, from Vice-President down to County Executive, all believing that if fate shone on them they could have their day in the sun.

The reality of being President hits you much harder then a stern lecture by a parent or a reality check by a wife. John Weeks was a man who wanted to be President, who arranged himself carefully in 1912 and 1916, getting the Secretaryship in exchange for future support from President Underwood, and felt like God was punishing him for his moral failures. A horrid economy, revolutions overseas, anarchists and socialists parading in his streets, it was a ghastly sight for an old banking man like him.

For others it was an inspiring sight, young Norman Thomas had been an eager member of the NY Socialists for a decade now, quickly rising up as chairman of the National Civil Liberties Bureau, and even elected as a 1 Term Secretary of State. He saw the world as cleansing itself of the old order, whether by the bullet or by the ballot. Like his running mate, and unlike many old socialists, he was never a conventional Marxist, considering himself somewhat of a Christian Socialist. Indeed his appeal to the gospel attracted many rural voters that were otherwise hardcore Populist, his job on the ticket was to appeal to New Yorkers and Southerners. La Follette's job was to attract progressives and people tired of the political same-old. There was one group they forgot to appeal to: the founding Socialists.

Regardless they still managed to obtain the highest share of the vote the Socialists had gotten yet, the Republicans taken aback by their strength in urban areas (nearly taking New York of all places, but splitting between them, the Populists, and a rump Communist party assured that didn't happen), and the Populists were amazed how they took some western states, or their vote power in the South (narrowly beating them in Texas and handing the state to the Republicans).

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Despite their superb showing, they were still in third place, far from victory in a normal situation. But this situation itself was far from normal, with no candidate receiving 266 votes the election fell to Congress. Weeks was unpopular, Smith a cranky old Bryanite, and La Follette still the Speaker. How he managed to twist enough arms to get himself in the Oval Office is not that hard to decipher. Smith was the eldest major party candidate yet, at 75. Older then Weeks (61) and La Follette (65), he was chosen as a compromise candidate (Tom Johnson and Charles Bryan his major adversaries) and his gaffes as candidate established him as a gloomy fatalist (more then once he told people he expected to die in office and would prefer that Hunt take over when he does). Weeks had rarely appeared on the campaign trail, minimizing the chances of his personal unpopularity jeopardizing the Republicans chances in November. La Follette campaigned like a man who wanted to be President, not resigned to let others do the work for them.

While the House choose third place La Follette, the Senate choose second place Hunt as Vice-President. Hunt had served as numerous positions in Arizona, most recently Senator as a Populist Party Member. Despite this he rarely had a Socialist opponent, his membership with the IWW, his pro-Labor policies and votes secured his safety from their organization. Now Vice-President he could safely mock all those would called him a turncoat, or closet communist for his loyalties.

A lot of people were enraged at the turn of events. The Republicans, who for better or for worse, had won the popular vote (and barely lost the electoral vote), and despite that they had the Presidency taken from them. With barely a quarter of the vote he was sworn in on March 4th, 1921 as America's first Socialist President. His opponents hated him for betraying his party and stealing the election, his friends were upset the old man had abandoned his old values of honesty and fair play, while achieving the Presidency in such an underhanded method, Socialists hated him for tarring them with the brush of illegitimacy. It would be a rough 4 years, if he even survived them.

1890 Lodge Bill Timeline:
1892 Presidential and Congressional elections
1894 Congress/1896 general elections
1898 Congress/1900 general election
1902 Congress/1904 general elections
*John Calhoun Bell biography
1906 Congressional elections
1908 General Elections
1910 Congress/1912 general election
1914 House elections
1916 General Elections
1918 House elections
 
Union Nationale in the EOI-verse. Veteran Health Minister Louise Rouen succeeded Pierre-Marc Johnson in July 2014, becoming Quebec's first female premier. The deputy premiership has been held since 2010 by an Anglophone, Treasury Board President Ryan McGee.

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A question to the Canadian and British members, I want to ask some questions about an area having a snap election for the Prime Minister? I'm talking about when the PM loses their seat, and a member resign so they can run:

Technically, there's nothing which would stop a Prime Minister or party leader who lost their seat from staying on as party leader/PM and just seeking a new seat, presumably through a member of their own party resigning to create a vacancy. Pretty much what Alec Douglas-Home did in his transition from the Lords to the Commons.

In practice, if this happened it would almost certainly only come about if the party leader in question was hideously, crazy-level personally unpopular or tainted by Nixonian-level scandal, (Party leaders in this country almost always get a sizeable boost to their personal vote, even when they're unpopular in the country) so it would be the final nail in the coffin for them politically. Someone who had lost the confidence of their own constituency would find their position pretty much untenable.
 
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BC 2012 in EOI-verse. Premier Tim Hudak, with a LNG boom at his back, cruises to his first full term since succeeding Gordon Wilson in 2010. 2012 was the 5th Grit majority since 1996.

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In Saskatchewan's 2011 election, 4-term Tory Premier Rita Hansen's government was easily defeated by Ryan Hunter's NDP. Despite a strong economy, a succession of minor scandals and Hansen's increasingly imperious, autocratic style alienated many swing voters. Hunter, a youthful, charismatic farmer, ran on a moderate-populist platform. At 36, he is Saskatchewan's youngest premier.

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Nice work Rouge. I really like the EOI-verse (not much stuff on Quebec on this website for some reason) and the only thing that bugs me about your series is that to me, Mathieu Sauve came across as a bit of a Mary-Sue. Otherwise, good work.

(P.S.: Is Mathieu real? I know Pierre Sauve is).
 
Daltonia: I won't divulge too much before I eventually write the TL, but you'll see Sauvé's dark side and past... which ultimately exacts a very personal cost. As for whether Mathieu's real, no.
 
EOI-verse: SK Premier Ryan Hunter. Popular at home and with his fellow premiers, Hunter has been a vocal and effective critic of the Rae government's agricultural policies.

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No comments on the 1920 Presidential election? I'm a little disappointment. Well here are the House and Senate elections.

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The Republicans popular vote wasn't wasted on the elections, winning them back the House and Senate alongside the Prohibitionists. The Prohibitionists were slowly but surely expanding in memberships and ideology, moving from just Social Conservatism to economic conservatism, and especially the Flat Tax idea, as they moved into urban areas, attracting members disenchanted and fearful of Socialism. The Social Democrats were a breakaway faction of the Socialists, defecting after being sworn in, who were disgusted with La Follette and deciding to cut all ties with him and the party. Some hope they'll reunited and put up a collective front, others fear Socialism has died before it even had a chance. The Populists return as the second biggest group in Congress, and the leading partner of the left wing.



1890 Lodge Bill Timeline:
1892 Presidential and Congressional elections
1894 Congress/1896 general elections
1898 Congress/1900 general election
1902 Congress/1904 general elections
*John Calhoun Bell biography
1906 Congressional elections
1908 General Elections
1910 Congress/1912 general election
1914 House elections
1916 General Elections
1918 House elections
1920 Presidential Election
 
Because I've been travelling most of today and missed it. But wouldn't it be the new Congress that elects the President and Vice President?

The Populists hold the Southern States, Socialists have the Rust Belt, and they share most of the Western states in some regard. So while the Republicans hold more seats, it's compacted in the Northeast and spread out over the US. And the Socialists who defected still liked Hunt compared to the surly and racist Capper. For reference, OTL 1923 he proposed an anti-miscegenation Amendment. So the Populists voted for their guy, hoping La Follette would drop dead and give Hunt the Presidency, and the Socialists/Social Democrats voted against Capper out of fear the Black and other ethnic voters would throw them out of office next election for electing Capper.

What do you think of the rise of parties over the years? Populists overtook Democrats, Socialists arise in the urban North and some of the rural South, Social Democrats splitting off over intra-party and ethical disputes, and Prohibitionists taking in disaffected right-wing voters who want less alcohol and more morality.
 
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Although it seemed to be filled with promise the New Democrat-led coalition government became plague by various problems almost immediately following its inception. Aside from the opposition charges that the government was illegitimate due to the fact the NDP has failed to win a plurality of seats in the House of Commons, some members of the Prime Minister’s cabinet butted heads over the direction of foreign and domestic policy. Despite the fact he was made Deputy Prime Minister and allowed the freedom to choose a third of the cabinet, Liberal leader Gerard Kennedy used every opportunity made available to himself to strengthen his own party’s position at the expense of the government, hoping to swing back enough support to his own party so as to form his own coalition government following the next election. The coalition suffered another setback following the conclusion of the governments first year in power, with the Parti National renouncing their support for the government, citing the NDP’s disinterest in providing the pro-Quebec party any influence with regards to Quebec and French language policy. Yet the government’s ability to pass such measures as the legalization of Same-Sex Marriage, not to mention having provided Canadians with their first balanced budget in more than a decade allowed both the New Democrats and the Liberals to fend off any major disaster in the polls.

Meanwhile the opposition had undergone significant changes since the previous election. Although Bouchard had planned to fight the next election, the Quebec MP was forced to resign by caucus members due to the defection of several western MP’s to the Heritage Party as a protest against the former Prime Minister’s more liberal, eastern establishment positions. Following the surprise announcement that former Deputy Prime Minister Jim Prentice would not enter the race, the ensuing leadership election pitted a unified Blue Tory faction, represented by former Environment Minister Brian Pallister, against a heavily splintered Red Tory faction, represented by New Brunswick Premier Bernard Lord, former Finance Minister John Tory, and former Justice Minister Lawrence Cannon. Despite the hopes that either Lord or Tory would emerge as the leading candidate of their respective faction, both carried enough support to divide the convention in favour of Pallister, who eventually won on the fourth ballot. Though the selection of a western Blue Tory conservative quelled the Heritage Party’s rise in the polls and would reclaim the lost members in the House, voters seemed uneasy with a man who appeared to be at odds with a majority of Canadians on social issues, specifically on same-sex marriage and abortion. Regarding the former, Pallister attempted to vote down the measure legalizing the new marriage laws, but saw many of his own members vote in favor, allowing the passage of the Bill and the formation of a rift between himself and the leaders of the Red Tory caucus.

The campaign itself became a battle over parliamentary procedure, with the Tories attacking the NDP for forming an illegitimate government and disregarding the will of voters while the NDP hailed their coalition as a new step towards a more conciliatory, cooperative parliament. Gerard Kennedy and the Liberals found themselves in a bind, unable to attack the government which they had been a part of, and unable to effectively quell attacks from Reform that they had become nothing more than the New Democrats henchmen. Both the Heritage Party and Parti National meanwhile retreated to their respective home provinces to find support. While many voters were inclined to support the New Democrats, who had delivered on many of their election promises, an equal amount still felt distrust towards a party which had formed power despite coming in second. On Election Day Canadians gave the NDP their first elected mandate in the party’s history, but with the continued dissipation of support for the Liberals, removed any possible majority coalition from forming in the House of Commons. The Tories however managed to hold many of their seats in the west while suffering almost a complete loss in Quebec, although partially saved in the Atlantic once again from vote splitting between the NDP, Liberals and Reform.

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Prime Ministers of Canada:
Arthur Meighen (Conservative) 1920-1921
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1921-1926
Arthur Meighen (Conservative) 1926
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1926-1930
R.B. Bennett (Conservative) 1930-1935
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1935-1944
John Bracken (Progressive Conservative) 1944-1952
Charles Gavan Power (Liberal) 1952-1962
Paul Martin, Sr. (Liberal) 1962-1967
Davie Fulton (Progressive Conservative) 1967-1978
Erik Nielsen (Progressive Conservative) 1978-1979

Jean Marchand (Liberal) 1979-1980
Erik Nielsen (Progressive Conservative) 1980-1984
Iona Campagnolo (Liberal) 1984-1994
John Manley (Liberal) 1994-1996

Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative) 1996-2003
Bob Rae (New Democrat) 2003-


Senate Leaders of Canada:
John Turner (Liberal) 1996
David Crombie (Progressive Conservative) 1996-1999
Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative) 1999-2001
John Crosbie (Progressive Conservative) 2001-2003

Alexa McDonough (New Democrat) 2003-


Governor Generals of Canada:
Joe Clark (Non-Partisan) 1996-2002
Margaret Atwood (Non-Partisan) 2002-


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Canadian federal and Senate elections, 1996
Governor General election, 1996
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