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EvilSpaceAlien

EvilSpaceAlien

CanadianTory suggested I do an infobox continuation this old timeline of mine, and I had some spare time over so why not?

Nearly one and a half years into his third term things were going pretty okay considering he had held the office of Prime Minister for nearly eleven years at this point. The economic downturn had damaged the governments popularity however the coalition government with the American Heritage and Libertarian parties still held a lead over the opposition Labor and Liberal parties. But things took a turn for the worse when in January of 1990 the Prime Minister's personal physician opened up to the press about how Progressive Conservative Party President Lee Atwater had pressured him into falsifying the PM's medical report in order to hide the fact that he was suffering from Alzheimers. This in order to keep the PM in power long enough to build up Reagan's chosen successor Paul Laxalt profile enough so that he'd be able to challenge Bush for the leadership when Reagan would step down in '92. The government initially attempted to deny what according to it was 'absurd allegations' but after the doctor was able to present documents proving his story, Ronald Reagan's fate was sealed. A leadership election was announced for early March and George H.W. Bush looked well on his way to victory. But surprisingly Bush's support started to drop a week out from the election as rumors began to spread of Bush paying off the doctor in order to get him to come forward. These rumors were later proved to be completely false, but it ended up to be just the thing which helped Jack Kemp get past him and narrowly win the leadership. Bush, disenheartened with politics after the loss, left parliament a few weeks later. He did however make a political comeback two years later when he was elected leader of the Texan PC Party and became the province's Premier two years after that. Lee Atwater was sentenced to ten years imprisonment for his role in the scandal but would be released 3 years early in 1997. The doctor got off on 12 months of probation and losing his medical license in thanks to coming forth, while Ronald and Nancy Reagan were cleared of all charges. The latter still remains controversial to this day, and a great deal of people especially on the left claim that Ronald Reagan knew of the cover up all along.
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Following his election Kemp would go about forming his government, which brought about a few changes from Reagan's cabinet.
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But Kemp's government would continue to feel the effects of the corruption scandal with the oppsition holding a lead over the government in every opinion poll for the remainder of the parliamentary term, save for during and briefly after the Gulf War. When the government got a small lead back in the polls following the war Kemp thought and publically hinted about calling for a snap election. However Kemp ultimately decided not to do so and instead opted to wait and get more distance from the Reagan Scandal, and waited until the spring of 1993 to call an election.

Following the minor split in the Liberal Party shortly following the '88 when a group of MPs and Senators left the party under failed leadership candidate Jerry Brown mostly united in their dislike of Bentsen's policy on social issues, the Progressive Liberal Party was formed. However the new party soon fell apart as it was apparent that the people involved had many differences over which economic policy the party would have. The Party soon fractured with most of it's parliamentarians joining the Labor Party, some returning to the Liberal Party while Jerry Brown and Ralph Nader continued to sit as independents.

This and the continued recession and increasing unemployment figures gave Kennedy quite a good lead in the polls in the opinion polls ahead of the election. The final results gave Kennedy a large margin of victory although he failed to win an outright majority. In due to this the Labor and Liberal parties entered into negotiations and were able to form a coalition government. With Liberal Party leader Lloyd Bentsen serving as Deputy PM and Minister of Foreign Affairs.
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CanadianTory

CanadianTory

Amazing work Evil! I'm surprised Bush failed to win, seemed like that's where you were going with it. Not surprised Kennedy won. I wonder if his infidelities will come out before or during the next election.

Do you plan on continuing the series? Please say yes. :D
 
Utgard96

Utgard96

Archangel Michael said:
Poor, poor Liberals. Is there a chance they'll fold in with the Reform Party as some sort of twisted centre-left version of the OTL Canadian right?
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I'm not an expert, but I'd think it'd be more likely for Reform (or whichever Liberal faction is the lefty one) and the NDP to join forces. The conservatives needed to unite to form a solid platform for their ideology, whereas the Liberals were and are an extremely diverse party that's basically only united by its status as the old Canadian party. Reform and the rump Liberals would likely be two completely different parties ideologically, whereas the leftist wing (I forget which is which) and the NDP are both left-wing political forces, one relatively old and established and the other a new, radical offspring from the old governing party. Much like the PCs and Reform before their merger IOTL.
 

Kermode

Ares96 said:
I'm not an expert, but I'd think it'd be more likely for Reform (or whichever Liberal faction is the lefty one) and the NDP to join forces. The conservatives needed to unite to form a solid platform for their ideology, whereas the Liberals were and are an extremely diverse party that's basically only united by its status as the old Canadian party. Reform and the rump Liberals would likely be two completely different parties ideologically, whereas the leftist wing (I forget which is which) and the NDP are both left-wing political forces, one relatively old and established and the other a new, radical offspring from the old governing party. Much like the PCs and Reform before their merger IOTL.
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This is reasonable analysis, but the post featuring their first election makes clear that Reform is explicitly formed by disaffected left-Liberals, and that Martin's ultimate goal is to merge back into the Liberals with himself as leader. I'd wager that Reformists, at heart, see themselves as big-L Liberals, just outside their party. That doesn't mean things can't shift so that Martin is more open to aligning with the New Democrats, but it does mean there needs to be a shift to begin with.
 
Utgard96

Utgard96

conchobhar said:
This is reasonable analysis, but the post featuring their first election makes clear that Reform is explicitly formed by disaffected left-Liberals, and that Martin's ultimate goal is to merge back into the Liberals with himself as leader. I'd wager that Reformists, at heart, see themselves as big-L Liberals, just outside their party. That doesn't mean things can't shift so that Martin is more open to aligning with the New Democrats, but it does mean there needs to be a shift to begin with.
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Probably if the split lasts long enough to see Martin step down as party leader, then.

And a question for CanadianTory: I think this has been brought up before, but is Martin really the type of person to bolt out of the party? He was something of an establishment leader IOTL, after all.
 
CanadianTory

CanadianTory

Ares96 said:
Probably if the split lasts long enough to see Martin step down as party leader, then.

And a question for CanadianTory: I think this has been brought up before, but is Martin really the type of person to bolt out of the party? He was something of an establishment leader IOTL, after all.
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Considering in this TL Martin is the son of a PM who apparently got the leadership stolen through backroom deals, and IOTL pretty much attempted two separate coups against Chretien, yeah I believe it's possible.
 
CanadianTory

CanadianTory

Bracken over Socialism

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Prime Ministers of Canada:
Arthur Meighen (Conservative) 1920-1921
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1921-1926
Arthur Meighen (Conservative) 1926
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1926-1930
R.B. Bennett (Conservative) 1930-1935
William Lyon Mackenzie King (Liberal) 1935-1944
John Bracken (Progressive Conservative) 1944-1952
Charles Gavan Power (Liberal) 1952-1962
Paul Martin, Sr. (Liberal) 1962-1967
Davie Fulton (Progressive Conservative) 1967-1978
Erik Nielsen (Progressive Conservative) 1978-1979
Jean Marchand (Liberal) 1979-1980
Erik Nielsen (Progressive Conservative) 1980-1984
Iona Campagnolo (Liberal) 1984-1994
John Manley (Liberal) 1994-1996
Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative) 1996-

Senate Leaders of Canada:
John Turner (Liberal) 1996
David Crombie (Progressive Conservative) 1996-1999
Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative) 1999-2001
John Crosbie (Progressive Conservative) 2001-

Governor Generals of Canada:
Joe Clark (Non-Partisan) 1996-2002
Margaret Atwood (Non-Partisan) 2002-

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Progressive Conservative leadership election, 1966
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Liberal leadership election, 1970
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Progressive Conservative leadership election, 1986
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True Grit

True Grit

Well done, CT. Surprised to see Nystrom resign, but given the circumstances I suppose it makes sense. Also, inspired choices with Milliken for Liberal leader, and Atwood for Governor General. On a related note, does Martin running for Governor General mean he's out as Reform leader?
 
CanadianTory

CanadianTory

True Grit said:
Well done, CT. Surprised to see Nystrom resign, but given the circumstances I suppose it makes sense. Also, inspired choices with Milliken for Liberal leader, and Atwood for Governor General. On a related note, does Martin running for Governor General mean he's out as Reform leader?
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Yup, after such a narrow defeat Martin chose to resign himself from politics altogether. So we have the New Democrats, who with Rae as their leader are attempting to moderate some of their Left-Wing positions, a Liberal Party who is drifting around the center, and an increasingly desperate Reform Party formerly led by a more Left-Wing Paul Martin.

All three are trying to go for the Center, which has previously belonged to the Tories. With both the NDP and Liberals battling it out, there is some within the Reform Party who believe there's a chance to pick up disgruntled Left-Wing NDP voters.
 
Callan

Callan

CanadianTory said:
Yup, after such a narrow defeat Martin chose to resign himself from politics altogether. So we have the New Democrats, who with Rae as their leader are attempting to moderate some of their Left-Wing positions, a Liberal Party who is drifting around the center, and an increasingly desperate Reform Party formerly led by a more Left-Wing Paul Martin.

All three are trying to go for the Center, which has previously belonged to the Tories. With both the NDP and Liberals battling it out, there is some within the Reform Party who believe there's a chance to pick up disgruntled Left-Wing NDP voters.
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With the mess that is the Canadian Centre-left I can see the PCs being in power for some time. I wonder which party will bite the bullet and propose a merger first. One thing I'm intrigued about is the Parti National. It seems to be a more moderate Bloc. What is its relationship with provincial Quebec Sovereigntists? (If the PQ or a similar party is even a thing ITTL).
 
True Grit

True Grit

CanadianTory said:
Yup, after such a narrow defeat Martin chose to resign himself from politics altogether. So we have the New Democrats, who with Rae as their leader are attempting to moderate some of their Left-Wing positions, a Liberal Party who is drifting around the center, and an increasingly desperate Reform Party formerly led by a more Left-Wing Paul Martin.

All three are trying to go for the Center, which has previously belonged to the Tories. With both the NDP and Liberals battling it out, there is some within the Reform Party who believe there's a chance to pick up disgruntled Left-Wing NDP voters.
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So essentially, three of the four (or five, if Heritage is included) major parties are essentially battling it out for the same votes. And I thought the Tory-Reform split IRL was bad...

Daltonia said:
With the mess that is the Canadian Centre-left I can see the PCs being in power for some time. I wonder which party will bite the bullet and propose a merger first. One thing I'm intrigued about is the Parti National. It seems to be a more moderate Bloc. What is its relationship with provincial Quebec Sovereigntists? (If the PQ or a similar party is even a thing ITTL).
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I've always imagined the Parti National as a more nationalist rather than sovereigntist party.
 
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