hi i was wondering about how history might have unfolded if some of the major players in WWII would have had diffrent goverments and if WWII would happend at all.
i'll try my best to make it not to impossible how ever some of the things might be verry unlikely, but some times verry unlikely things just happen i'll try to make them as few as possible.
the ATL begins june 1919 the battles between the soviets/red russian armies and the White russian armies in our time line where over wellming red victories in this timeline some how those where overwelming white victories.
what follows is an longer and more bloody russian cival war.
also in this ATL the Russo-Polish War is a big polish victory and they gain more territory than they did in OTL.
the russian cival war ends 2 years later than OTL with a white victory
after this another 3 months of struggle amongst the diffrent white faction leaders Baron Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel emearges on top and is crowned the new zsar of russia (all romanov's still get killed by the red's)
here is some info on the man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Nikolayevich_Wrangel
the rest of history in this ATL plays out more or less the same untill 1929
when The Great Depression hits the world it is some how (don't know if this is realy possible) even more devestating espesialy to the USA, as an result the communist in the USA gained alote more influance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA
and in 1932 by a verry small margin of votes William Z. Foster became new president USA (i am not copletely sure on how the USA goverment works but if the president is a communist and they got a small majority in congres does that make them that make them cummunist or sosialist because there is a considerabele opposition in conngress)
In an speach to congress President William Z. Foster anounces his NO DEAL.
basicaly alote like the NEW DEAL i OTL only diffrences are that it further limits the power of big companies and basicaly clossing the USA market to all none USA products and all the money the USA loaned to other country's is demanded back.
also other reforms are made for better minimum wages and free health care and other stuff like that,slowly but surely turning the USA into an socialist paradise.
in germany The Great Depression has an catastrophic effect that all measures of the wiemar republics goverment fail but even worse that they did in OTL wide spred revolt and civil dis order is the result in 1930 may
the Reichswehr together with what is left of the Freikorps step in and restored order haveing seen several goverments from both left and the conservative goverments fail they don't trust the politicians any more and install an military dictatorship with (wild guese here) Heinz Guderian as dictator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian
in this ATL The Great Depression caused also alote of civil disorder and unreset in france and the third republic falls and france becomes facist under arshal Philippe Pétain. (he was the leader of vichy france and i geuse you could call its goverment facist altough maybe not by there own choice)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Pétain.
in ALT United Kingdom the great depression wasn't so great it didn't have such a great impact as it did in OTL.
the rest of the the country's around the world don't have major goverment changes (yes i know thats unrealisticaly but i don't want to make it to over comlicated).
now we have the year 1933 how do you think this alternate timeline contineu's from here?
i'll try my best to make it not to impossible how ever some of the things might be verry unlikely, but some times verry unlikely things just happen i'll try to make them as few as possible.
the ATL begins june 1919 the battles between the soviets/red russian armies and the White russian armies in our time line where over wellming red victories in this timeline some how those where overwelming white victories.
what follows is an longer and more bloody russian cival war.
also in this ATL the Russo-Polish War is a big polish victory and they gain more territory than they did in OTL.
the russian cival war ends 2 years later than OTL with a white victory
after this another 3 months of struggle amongst the diffrent white faction leaders Baron Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel emearges on top and is crowned the new zsar of russia (all romanov's still get killed by the red's)
here is some info on the man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Nikolayevich_Wrangel
the rest of history in this ATL plays out more or less the same untill 1929
when The Great Depression hits the world it is some how (don't know if this is realy possible) even more devestating espesialy to the USA, as an result the communist in the USA gained alote more influance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA
and in 1932 by a verry small margin of votes William Z. Foster became new president USA (i am not copletely sure on how the USA goverment works but if the president is a communist and they got a small majority in congres does that make them that make them cummunist or sosialist because there is a considerabele opposition in conngress)
In an speach to congress President William Z. Foster anounces his NO DEAL.
basicaly alote like the NEW DEAL i OTL only diffrences are that it further limits the power of big companies and basicaly clossing the USA market to all none USA products and all the money the USA loaned to other country's is demanded back.
also other reforms are made for better minimum wages and free health care and other stuff like that,slowly but surely turning the USA into an socialist paradise.
in germany The Great Depression has an catastrophic effect that all measures of the wiemar republics goverment fail but even worse that they did in OTL wide spred revolt and civil dis order is the result in 1930 may
the Reichswehr together with what is left of the Freikorps step in and restored order haveing seen several goverments from both left and the conservative goverments fail they don't trust the politicians any more and install an military dictatorship with (wild guese here) Heinz Guderian as dictator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian
in this ATL The Great Depression caused also alote of civil disorder and unreset in france and the third republic falls and france becomes facist under arshal Philippe Pétain. (he was the leader of vichy france and i geuse you could call its goverment facist altough maybe not by there own choice)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Pétain.
in ALT United Kingdom the great depression wasn't so great it didn't have such a great impact as it did in OTL.
the rest of the the country's around the world don't have major goverment changes (yes i know thats unrealisticaly but i don't want to make it to over comlicated).
now we have the year 1933 how do you think this alternate timeline contineu's from here?
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