AHC/WI: Green Parties Fail

@BrotherSideways

At the moment, it's hard to think of a First World country where a Green Party isn't experiencing some degree of success. Obviously, it hasn't always been this way, and Green politics seems to have taken off mostly in the last decade or two.

Could this have been avoided altogether, or remained a fad? The first entrance of Greens into a national legislature was at the Belgian election of 1981, with the German Greens bringing the movement into prominence in 1983. However, it has been remarked that the global movement was on the decline by 1986, when Chernobyl thrust Greens into the mainstream. Would a world with no Chernobyl disaster have seen a decline in Green politics? Would we now be periodically reminded of those few years in the 80s when people who cared about the environment were silly enough to form dedicated parties instead of simply working through existing structures?

Or was the momentum already too strong by then? Are we looking at a PoD in the 70s, or '68?

And in a world where Green political parties don't get traction, what would we have instead? The predecessors of GroenLinks in the Netherlands included a Christian environmentalist party, the Pacifist Socialist Party and some rather limp Communists, while that niche in Italy seems to have been filled in the 1980s by the Radical Party, and in Australia the Nuclear Disarmament Party saw some success. It appears that there is a constituency of people who want to devolve power to the grassroots, get rid of nuclear weapons and engage in radical social liberalism, whether or not there is an environmental message as well. Does this reading tally with reality?

What are your reckons?
 

Riain

Banned
Greens Parties struggle in First Past the Post electoral systems because they only tend to get 10% of the vote.

So if more polities had FPTP instead of STV and/or MMP and the like then the Greens would rarely gain seats.

I saw a good paper written by the Australian Parliament House that said that the Green struggle to get more than 10% on a sustained basis because other major parties can also take environmental issues into their platform, robbing the Greens of votes.
 

Sideways

Donor
Honestly, I think the sixties is too late. They may have emerged in the Eighties, but they were based on this from the sixties and often worked with pre existing environmental groups.

I would personally draw the philosophy back to ideas from the thirties and earlier.

You could dramatically rewrite the Green movement, or make it a socially unacceptable as fascism. But I think it is an inevitable response to an industrial society.
 
A Pedophilia scandal could have strangled the German Green Party in it's cradle and by association damaged the entire Green "brand". And I'm not talking about a run-off-the-mill pedophilia witch-hunt. It's founders actually made wanting to legalize sex with underage children part of the party platform for a while.
http://www.spiegel.de/international...-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html
Have those things come to light in a big way. Perhaps sometime in the late 80s the Pedophilia scandal in the Catholic Church breaks and then in the middle of the German Greens being on their high horse about the evils of organized religion, some disgruntled former member leaks papers about how they used to lobby for those abusers and things escalate from there.
 
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