AHC: German Taiwan

[Tsao]

With any POD after 1871 and before 1914, make Taiwan a German colony or protectorate.

 

[Tsao]

Any Ideas?

 

[Emperor-of-New-Zealand]

You don't fully grasp the idea of the forum. Try doing a little research yourself and coming up with your own PODs, then asking the other forum-goers if they're plausible or not. As it is, you are just throwing random ideas out there.

Also, bumping your thread after only a couple of hours is kind of poor form. Showing a little patience could do you some good.

 

[wolf_brother]

France has a more Eastern-oriented colonial/foreign policy in the later-19th century, with several more French military missions to Japan, and even a follow-up to Korea. During the *Sino-Japanese War France joins with Japan against China, capturing Taiwan and possibly other territories. Following an alt-European conflict in sunset of the 19th or dawn of the 20th century France is defeated by Germany, who takes her Far Eastern colonial possessions, including Taiwan, in the peace treaty.

Also, Emperor-of-New-Zealand, an AHC is perfectly inline with the 'idea of the forum.'

 

[Emperor-of-New-Zealand]

Also, Emperor-of-New-Zealand, an AHC is perfectly inline with the 'idea of the forum.'

I never said it wasn't. I just said it would help (and, undoubtedly, attract more discussion to his threads) if he did his own work instead of asking others to do it for him.

Edit: Anyway, your idea is dependent on a friendlier-to-Germany Britain. The British naval presence in the Far East (and in this case, through Singapore) is greater than anywhere else in the world at this stage. There's no way Germany can get anything past Singapore from France unless Britain was on Germany's side or doesn't care less. It has been discussed at large whether or not Germany could get Indochina after WWI and the consensus was generally that because of Singapore they could not. In this ATL, Taiwan is in the same situation.

 

[informationfan]

Hi,

reading this thread i had an idea

what if germany after 1871 join (marriage or similar) with the dutch, so a dutch-german zone will be created.

cause of the combined german and dutch colonies, they switch some, say they part deutsch-ostafrika, giving the dutch parts of it for some parts of indonesia...

this happen in the time between 1871 and 1880

in this timeline, kaiser willhelm the second dies befor beeing kaiser, so he get an follow up that could be a dutch-german breeding,

with the dutch influence the german could be more forwarded to certain parts, also the dutch could be improved

the trade would be improved, the dutch could build rotterdam and the germans use it (like today) for the ruhr-area-traffic, but both sides can earn more money

in colonial terms, the veteran dutch can advice the new germans, esp. the need of ships suited for such climate-zones...

with this singapur isn´t important, the dutch-german-union (DGU) can spread much more...

a larger navy would be natural, but also better contacts to the british (trade is very important to the dutch, so they would tame down the german "big fleet"-aspect)

i still doubt that the brits will not try to sabotage the DGU, also the belgish people would be very afraid (at last one half of them, the other would be very interested to join, too...)

could this be possible? say that in 1910 the internal problems of belgium and the good effort of the dutch development torn apart the first?

how could such event, in the 1870ties (or maybe earlier? say 1860 with some marriage between prussia and the dutch kingdom?) be possible?

 

[Tsao]

Hi,

reading this thread i had an idea

what if germany after 1871 join (marriage or similar) with the dutch, so a dutch-german zone will be created.

cause of the combined german and dutch colonies, they switch some, say they part deutsch-ostafrika, giving the dutch parts of it for some parts of indonesia...

this happen in the time between 1871 and 1880

in this timeline, kaiser willhelm the second dies befor beeing kaiser, so he get an follow up that could be a dutch-german breeding,

with the dutch influence the german could be more forwarded to certain parts, also the dutch could be improved

the trade would be improved, the dutch could build rotterdam and the germans use it (like today) for the ruhr-area-traffic, but both sides can earn more money

in colonial terms, the veteran dutch can advice the new germans, esp. the need of ships suited for such climate-zones...

with this singapur isn´t important, the dutch-german-union (DGU) can spread much more...

a larger navy would be natural, but also better contacts to the british (trade is very important to the dutch, so they would tame down the german "big fleet"-aspect)

i still doubt that the brits will not try to sabotage the DGU, also the belgish people would be very afraid (at last one half of them, the other would be very interested to join, too...)

could this be possible? say that in 1910 the internal problems of belgium and the good effort of the dutch development torn apart the first?

how could such event, in the 1870ties (or maybe earlier? say 1860 with some marriage between prussia and the dutch kingdom?) be possible?

Does Kaiser Bill die before or after Frederick?

 

[informationfan]

Does Kaiser Bill die before or after Frederick?

feel free to do it in a way this could sound more reasonable...

maybe kaiser wilhelm2 is not the son of his ice cold (british) mother, but beloved son of the dutch mother? again, you do not need him beeing the "real" person...

as far as i learned about Wilhelm, he had a very weak ego cause of his crippled arm and he suffered extremly because of his mother... with another mother (from the netherlands) he could be another person?