Canada's population density is ridiculously low. Not a good counterexample, unless you are saying that Manchuria, like Canada, is mostly near-uninhabitable.
AHC: European settler state in Asia
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Canada's population density is ridiculously low. Not a good counterexample, unless you are saying that Manchuria, like Canada, is mostly near-uninhabitable.
Lucius Verus
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That is true, even if local labour wasn't available slaves from the Indian ocean was a lot closer. I think one really needs some genocidal white supremacists to make it work. What about Hokkaido? I believe that it was a sparsely populated and temperate region as described by Beer in his tl before he was banned.
And it had 10 times that after the bulk of the Han migration happened, with Manchukuo having 10 times that by 1934, heck it reached 20 million before 1900.
I’m surprised that no one thought about the Holy Land in Jerusalem as a qualifying candidate.
What about the Venetian and Genoa colonies on the Pontic Steppe? If the Ottomans are crippled, I could see those eventually becoming settler colonies.
I think an important question is what is considered "European"?
Are the children of Whites and Indians (or Whites and Indonesians, etc) considered "European"?
If so it is much easier than otherwise.
Set up a "One British Empire" movement, or something of that ilk. It would certainly be a radical movement, but have them recruit people to settle in parts of India - essentially a form of Freemason/Jesuit organisation that encourages mixed-race children, and after an initial generous few donations, is funded LDS style - they take a % of peoples earnings and that helps pay to ferry applicants and members around.
Are the children of Whites and Indians (or Whites and Indonesians, etc) considered "European"?
If so it is much easier than otherwise.
Set up a "One British Empire" movement, or something of that ilk. It would certainly be a radical movement, but have them recruit people to settle in parts of India - essentially a form of Freemason/Jesuit organisation that encourages mixed-race children, and after an initial generous few donations, is funded LDS style - they take a % of peoples earnings and that helps pay to ferry applicants and members around.
Most of it was under European control in the 1600s. I'm sure a better effort to secure it could be made if the east indies proved more prickly.
The Himalayas? I've been mulling over the feasibility of pulling a Grand Fenwick out of one or more of the old Hill Stations (to those not familiar with British India, a Hill Station was a mountain resort where the governing class of the British Raj could retire to in order to get away from the summer heat) by having the government of the Raj set aside a handful of mountain valleys as pretty much exclusively for British use - encouraging small scale British settlement (demobbed soldiers would be ideal), discouraging Indian settlement, investment and infrastructure to European standards. Start in the mid 19thC in somewhere like Arunachal Pradesh (still the least densely populated part of India today, IIRC) so that by 1948 it has a population of 50-100,000 white British (if you don't look too closely, many of them will probably actually be mixed race after a century or so) English speaking and nominally Christian inhabitants which is separated off by the British as independence approaches to become its own state whose existence is tolerated by India as it acts as a buffer with China.
Probably the 16th century, but even then, settling it would be hard. Much easier to co-opt the natives and import Chinese people, like the Spaniards did in the Philippines.
And... this continent was mostly settled by Europeans? Even though it was two oceans away, I assume?
I'm assuming Magellanica=South America. As in the land explored by Magellan. It was largely settled by Europeans in OTL (some areas are majority European. more are majority mixed-racr)
Interesting. Though in the early days wasn't mixed race not a problem if the dad was British and both Christian? Plenty of army officers were mixed following transfer of India from the BEIC.
Hamersley Macdonnell II
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No, it's a fictional continent in the Southeast Pacific region that I've created based on a continent that was presumed to exist between New Zealand and South America from the time of Mendaña (1560s) to voyages of Cook (1770), by 1700 New Holland and the hypotethical TA were considered as two distinct landmasses. The name comes from Magellan and it was used as another name for Terra Australis because Tierra del Fuego, which was discovered by Magellan, was assumed to be a promontory of the southern continent. I applied it to my continent because Magellan discovered it in my conworld (in reality he sailed along the presumed coastlines of Terra Australis).
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Hamersley Macdonnell II
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I've created an inland state for Anglo-Indians too, alongside aforementioned Andamans and Nicobars. Some of the hill stations have English names, like Dalhousie and Wellington, which is suitable.