AH Challenge: Restore the German Monarchy Post-Versailles

With a POD after the Treaty of Versailles (28 June 1919) restore the monarchy to Germany. It doesn't matter what form the Monarchy is restored anything from Westminster style to Absolute is just fine. So long as [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Emperor Wilhelm, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]his son [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Crown Prince Wilhelm, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]or his [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Grandson Wilhelm is put on the throne sometime after Versailles the requirements are met. I understand there are a few old threads on this topic but ive read through them and none seem to be very conclusive, so any fresh ideas are appreciated![/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif](Bonus Points if you can prevent the rise of Nazi Germany)[/FONT]
 
Almost impossible. The German far rich was filled with large populist undertones. The German military, by and large the epicenter of Monarchist sentiment, was considered to blame for the loss as much as the Jews and the Communists, who were considered as the same by most in the far right.

The Kapp Putsch was unlikely to reinstall the monarch, because by doing so, they would risk civil war. Which they were doing anyway and if it succeeds, it might allow for the return of the Emperor to Germany, but in a completely apolitical role.
 
Hindenburg Before he dies forces the Nazis and the Goverment to hand the post of President over to the crown prince and crown him as king with s much power as Hindenburg had as President .:rolleyes:
 

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In late 1931 Chancellor Bruening proposed a radical plan to prevent the Nazis from achieving power and Hitler becoming President of the Republic: his plan was to restore the Hohenzollern throne.

At the time it was believed that Hindenburg would not run again for the presidency in 1933. Without Hindenburg in the race, Hitler would almost certainly be elected president. Even if Hindenburg could be persuaded to run and he won, his great age meant that it would be very unlikely that he would serve out his full term as president; consequently another presidential election would be likely in only a few years, Hitler would only have to be patient for a short while.

Bruening plan to prevent this was to cancel the 1933 presidential elections and extend Hindenburg’s term in office indefinitely. To do so was rather surprisingly, entirely constitutional; all it required as a two thirds vote in both the Reichstag and the Reichsrat, and this Bruening had already managed to negotiate. He had the support of the Social Democrats (reluctantly, but anything to stop Hitler), the centre parties and was confident of enough loyalty to Hindenburg from the right to swing it. Once election was cancelled, Bruening would propose that the parliament proclaim a monarchy with Hindenburg named as regent, to be succeeded by one of Crown Prince Wilhelm’s sons when he died.

Bruening was confident that a constitutional monarchy modelled on the British example would spell the end to the Nazi Party’s political momentum. All he now needed was the agreement of Hindenburg and the Weimer Republic would pass into the pages of history; not to be replaced by National Socialist Revolution, but by Hohenzollern Restoration.

And here’s where Bruening’s plan came unstuck. It wasn’t that Hindenburg was opposed to a restoration; it was that he wanted the restoration to be literally that; Hindenburg would only accept the exiled Wilhelm II returning to the throne. Worse, he wanted it to be a full restoration; a resumption of the absolute monarchy of 1914. The aging Field Marshal was already beginning to slip into senility and when Bruening explained that the Social Democrats had only very reluctantly accepted the return of the monarchy on condition that it was a constitutional monarchy, and that it must not be either Wilhelm II or his son, he was incensed and ended the discussion and there the whole plan died.

So perhaps with just a little more planning Bruening can win over Hindenburg? He’d already managed to persuade the staunchly republican Social Democrats that a Hohenzollern, while not perfect was far better than a Hitler, so finding a means of convincing the Field Marshal is hardly a long stretch. What he needed to do was persuade Hindenburg that this plan was the only way to stop ‘that Austrian Corporal’ from ever sitting in the president’s chair and that honour didn’t demand the return of the exiled Kaiser, just one of his line. Taking the old Kaiser into his confidence probably would have been enough; a letter from Wilhelm II to Hindenburg supporting Bruening’s plan for the sake of Germany’s future, while at the same time renouncing any claim to the throne for himself in favour of his grandson, would probably have been enough to do it. If Wilhelm were aware that this was the only way for the Hohenzollerns to ever return to the throne of Germany, he would have jumped at the chance. If Bruening had presented his plan to Hindenburg with all the pieces already in place, including the vital endorsement of the old Kaiser, the old man would have grudgingly accepted it.

1933 would have seen the end of the German Republic, the declaration of the Regency, and the return to Germany of Prince Louis Ferdinand* from America. A supporter of constitutional monarchy and staunch opponent of the Nazis, Louis could be expected to win over the Social Democrats, and consequently the support of all but the Nazis and the Communists.

The question then is, would this really derail the Nazi juggernaut or would the Regency give them sufficient time to seize power?

*Sorry, Louis not Wilhelm. Wilhelm, like Edward VIII would shortly do, chose love over duty.
 
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Instead of joining the Wehrmacht and dying of his wounds. Prince Wilhelm becomes a vehement Anti-Nazi and serves in either the British Army or with exiled Dutch forces.

After the war he uses his pro-Allied but still German nationalist status to play a small role in slightly accelerating the restoration of democracy in West Germany. In early 1949 when the German Federation is formed, Wilhelm is crowned king and tasked with performing purely ceremonial duties. All practical powers that would have gone to the President of the Bundesrepublic are vested in the Bundestag as a whole. King Wilhelm has the same powers as the Japanese Emperor.
 
In late 1931 Chancellor Bruening proposed a radical plan to prevent the Nazis from achieving power and Hitler becoming President of the Republic: his plan was to restore the Hohenzollern throne.

At the time it was believed that Hindenburg would not run again for the presidency in 1933. Without Hindenburg in the race, Hitler would almost certainly be elected president. Even if Hindenburg could be persuaded to run and he won, his great age meant that it would be very unlikely that he would serve out his full term as president; consequently another presidential election would be likely in only a few years, Hitler would only have to be patient for a short while.

Bruening plan to prevent this was to cancel the 1933 presidential elections and extend Hindenburg’s term in office indefinitely. To do so was rather surprisingly, entirely constitutional; all it required as a two thirds vote in both the Reichstag and the Reichsrat, and this Bruening had already managed to negotiate. He had the support of the Social Democrats (reluctantly, but anything to stop Hitler), the centre parties and was confident of enough loyalty to Hindenburg from the right to swing it. Once election was cancelled, Bruening would propose that the parliament proclaim a monarchy with Hindenburg named as regent, to be succeeded by one of Crown Prince Wilhelm’s sons when he died.

Bruening was confident that a constitutional monarchy modelled on the British example would spell the end to the Nazi Party’s political momentum. All he now needed was the agreement of Hindenburg and the Weimer Republic would pass into the pages of history; not to be replaced by National Socialist Revolution, but by Hohenzollern Restoration.

And here’s where Bruening’s plan came unstuck. It wasn’t that Hindenburg was opposed to a restoration; it was that he wanted the restoration to be literally that; Hindenburg would only accept the exiled Wilhelm II returning to the throne. Worse, he wanted it to be a full restoration; a resumption of the absolute monarchy of 1914. The aging Field Marshal was already beginning to slip into senility and when Bruening explained that the Social Democrats had only very reluctantly accepted the return of the monarchy on condition that it was a constitutional monarchy, and that it must not be either Wilhelm II or his son, he was incensed and ended the discussion and there the whole plan died.

So perhaps with just a little more planning Bruening can win over Hindenburg? He’d already managed to persuade the staunchly republican Social Democrats that a Hohenzollern, while not perfect was far better than a Hitler, so finding a means of convincing the Field Marshal is hardly a long stretch. What he needed to do was persuade Hindenburg that this plan was the only way to stop ‘that Austrian Corporal’ from ever sitting in the president’s chair and that honour didn’t demand the return of the exiled Kaiser, just one of his line. Taking the old Kaiser into his confidence probably would have been enough; a letter from Wilhelm II to Hindenburg supporting Bruening’s plan for the sake of Germany’s future, while at the same time renouncing any claim to the throne for himself in favour of his grandson, would probably have been enough to do it. If Wilhelm were aware that this was the only way for the Hohenzollerns to ever return to the throne of Germany, he would have jumped at the chance. If Bruening had presented his plan to Hindenburg with all the pieces already in place, including the vital endorsement of the old Kaiser, the old man would have grudgingly accepted it.

1933 would have seen the end of the German Republic, the declaration of the Regency, and the return to Germany of Prince Louis Ferdinand* from America. A supporter of constitutional monarchy and staunch opponent of the Nazis, Louis could be expected to win over the Social Democrats, and consequently the support of all but the Nazis and the Communists.

The question then is, would this really derail the Nazi juggernaut or would the Regency give them sufficient time to seize power?

*Sorry, Louis not Wilhelm. Wilhelm, like Edward VIII would shortly do, chose love over duty.

Sounds like the making of a Great TL to me-would be interesting to see the world wide ramifications of all this.
 
Sounds like the making of a Great TL to me-would be interesting to see the world wide ramifications of all this.

Agreed. What was the plan about the other ruling families? Its hard to imagine that the Hohenzollerns would be restored without the Wittelsbachs also being restored as well as some of the other major dynasties.
 
The Allies take the "War Criminals" business a tad more seriously, and the Kaiser and Crown Prince are tried and hanged.

Within a decade or so, young Wilhelm is crowned amid wild jubilation as successor to the "martyrs".
 
Sounds like the making of a Great TL to me-would be interesting to see the world wide ramifications of all this.

By 1933, its to late to stop Hitler. The Nazi's will get control of the Reichstag and then they'll find a way of achieving that power, or force Germany into Civil War.
 
By 1933 the Allies have already done the necessary damage, starting with insisting on the removal of the monarchy in the first place.
 
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