A Queen Twice Over: Mary Tudor the Elder Marries Francis I of France
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... I won't say no...
It was fun to write and I've enjoyed seeing you adapt it to use it for glorious murder...
is that your way of referring to Spain? Because that's hilarious. I genuinely chuckled.
It would have to be Kate or Anne, Mama Boleyn is long dead here, on second thought.
But at least he realises that. He didn't exactly derive any pleasure from the occasion. Watching it was a distasteful duty, nothing more.
That's precisely what you were meant to think.
You're in the right sort of geographical area... Think about it. Who's most likely to love François enough to shoulder the burden of dealing with a brother he no longer wishes to clap eyes on for him?
There’s only two options, uncle Henry, who would be in a complicated relationship with both of his nephews, or the Big Chins, who would be more than happy enough to grant refuge to Jean and use him to stir up trouble in France.Given Francois seems to have given Jean freedom to do anything as long as he leaves in three weeks, I suspect Jean would dash to the Big Chins since they are more likely to support him. He might just play the role of the Duke of Bourbon in this timeline.If Francois is wise, shipping Jean to Uncle Henry might be the better option as long as they don’t go to war again.
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Both his uncles would probably shelter him just to prove a point, indeed... But I disagree that there are only two options. 😛
He could also go visit his favourite sister, who’s just a big of a headpain as him, in the land of thistles - That, no doubt, is gonna be fun for all
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It would cause drama certainly, but I actually feel like it might just be a safe option for Francois, cause unless James starts getting real friendly with Uncle Henry (unlikely) methinks Scotland doesn’t have the ability to sponsor a pretender to the French throne.
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He could actually take a page from Uncle Charles. The guy usually delegates to competent generals instead of leading in person. Even in France itself, there’s precedence. Charles VII the Victorious of France prefers to delegate to generals instead of lead armies in person.Same deal with Charles V of France.
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Exactly, but still. I told you there were more than two options. ..
And he knows that. He's just waiting for Anne to get a bit bigger first... And for the internal situation to calm down/his finances to get better after the recent debacle...
Come on, do you really think the Tudor-Valois genetic combination would allow for that??
Charles V of France and Charles VII of France were both Valois kings....Henry VII of England himself preferred letting generals fight wars on his behalf. So jokes on you mate.
Even Henry VIII himself let others command the army when he himself is indisposed, like the Scottish campaigns.
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Okay, fair enough. But either angle is plausible, so we're going with the not wanting generals for the moment...Charles V of France and Charles VII of France were both Valois kings....Henry VII of England himself preferred letting generals fight wars on his behalf. So jokes on you mate.
I feel like Francois just didn’t want to fight a war against his uncle because he felt what his father did was plain wrong and he should have just handed Boulogne over to prevent war. He even notes it himself several times. His point about ‘I can’t lead the army right now’ felt like an excuse to flummox the pro-war crowd while giving the impression that he is personally brave.
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Well, it is technically legally wrong, yes. And anger is one of the stages of grief, so you might well be right. But as you say, he's not going to admit that in front of the Hawks...