A different Second World War

Xen

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There have been numerous attempts at a timeline where the Soviets fall to the Nazi's and the western allies win the war in Europe. Unfortunately there are too many people who say it was impossible for the western allies to win without the Soviets; it is beyond the United States and British Empire to produce the manpower to defeat Nazi Germany. To these detractors I say, prove it. Prove the western allies could never defeat the Nazi's. The answer is simple, they can't prove it. The western allies would have had to pay a price that is difficult to imagine but they certainly didn't lack the man power, they certainly didn't lack the industry, some question if they had the will but like everything else in alternate history that is open to speculation and there is no "proof" one way or the other. Nothing is certain when our heroes are faced with entirely different circumstances. The allies have some advantages, first the American industry had no equal, we were producing liberty ships faster than the Navy could name them, and I think every city in North America and Great Britain had a ship named after it. The allies gained an advantage of having a rather large pool of manpower, the United States had a large population, and the British Empire gave the allies a lot of strength. The Nazi's were hampered by the French, Dutch, and Polish resistance, add a resistance on a much larger scale in the former Soviet Union and the Nazi's still have their hands tied, though not as tightly as they did fighting against the unconquered USSR. But most importantly working in the allies favor is Adolph Hitler was a Nazi, and thought himself to be a military genius, it is not a stretch of the imagination to picture Hitler becoming all the more arrogant after defeating the USSR, so much so the military might try more than once to remove him from power.

The POD will be easy, in early 1942 Hitler is convinced to attack Moscow rather than Stalingrad. The Soviet capital falls to the Nazi's and most of the Soviet leadership is either killed or captured trying to flee the city; this includes of course Joseph Stalin who is found dead in a burning car.

The defeat is a crushing blow for the Soviet Union; the army suffers from deserters and war lordism. Without central government chaos rules Russia, shortly after the fall of Moscow, the city of Leningrad falls. Though Hitler has no love for the Russian's he recognizes the need for a Russian puppet regime, few Russian's accept the new government in St Petersburg as legitimate.

The allies began to suspect Hitler would sack Stalingrad and have a free shot at the oil in the Caucasus region. President Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill made overtures to Turkey's President Ismet Inönü. However Inönü was adamant about remaining neutral but gave the western allies his sympathies. Hitler would surpise his enemies and generals alike when he pulled troops out of Russia, believing without any real opposition in Russia, the oil was his to command at his leisure. However if Gibraltar were to fall, Germany could close up the Mediterranean to the British forcing them out of North Africa giving the Nazi's control of most of the worlds oil supply, and perhaps force a peace between Germany and the western allies.

After much arm twisting, fighting and name calling on a diplomatic level Francisco Franco had to choose his destiny, fight with Hitler and possibly lose to the western allies and be removed from power or refuse and have Hitler's troops enter Spain anyway and remove him from power themselves. Hoping his recent defeat of the Soviet Union and his Gibraltar gamble would pay off, Franco allowed the Nazi's to enter Spain. A few days later German and Spanish troops began their seige on Gibraltar, the United Kingdom and United States declared war on Spain.

After the fall of Gibraltar, the United States and United Kingdom invaded Morocco to prevent the Germans and Spanish from expanding across the straigt. The battle of the Gibraltar straigt effected the war in North Africa dramatically, as the winter months of 1942 set in there was no clear winner and the allies still engaged the Germans under General Rommel in Libya, After Operation Torch, however the allies gained the upperhand in November and pushed the Germans out in February 1943.

Desperate to go on the offensive Roosevelt pushed for Operation Vigilance to proceed, the allied invasion of Spain. The USAAF and the RAF bombed the southern Spanish coast line mercilessly, while short range fighters engaged the German luftwaffe over the Iberian peninsula. Ultimatley, after high casualties the allies emerged victorious over the skies, and in the troop landings. Barcelona fell after only a week of the invasion. Franco watched helplessly as his troops surrendored in mass to the allies, and his people greeted them in the streets.

The Germans were left to fight more than less alone in the defense of Madrid the bloodiest battle of the Iberian Campaign. Portugal was quick to recognize the imminent German defeat in Spain, joining the allies in their conquest. A second wave of allied troops invaded Spain from the north, consisting of mostly Canadian and Free French soldiers. The allies opened up a second front in July 1943 during Operation Husky, the invasion of Sicily. Later that fall the allies began the invasion of mainland Italy.

The Russians never really gave Hitler much leeway after his conquest of their homeland, the Russian resistence harassed and destroyed oil wells in the Caucausus region. German occupiers were constantly ambushed leaving hundreds dead every week. After the fall of North Africa, Hitler initiated a scorched earth policy for Russia. Any time the Germans were forced to withdraw from a city due to resistence the artillery and luftwaffe would destroy the city as punishment.

It didn't have the effect Hitler had hoped for, Russian resistence grew making the occupation difficult for Germany. Fortunatley for the occupying army the resistence had a tendency to fight each other as much as they fought them. Rumors began to spread American and British submarines were delivering weapons to the Russian reistence. Hitler pressured Turkey to stop the allies or risk losing its neutrality, Inönü found himself in a situation not too different from Franco, unlike Franco however Inönü joined the allies in their war against Hitler. The Russian resistence grew emboldened, receiving supplies by the ship load from the west. Canadian, South African and Indian troops began pouring into Thrace and Anatolia.

Churchill and Roosevelt looked at the option of landing troops in Northern France in Operation Roundup in the spring of 1944, but reports of German defenses along the coast indicated a near impenetrable fortress, reinforced with a huge arsenal of Panzers. Any invasion from the sea would most certainly fail, costing thousands of lives, and perhaps jeopardizing the war effort.

Eisenhower opted instead for Operation Spearhead the invasion of France from the Mediterranean and across the Pyrenees into southern France, and the simultaneous allied invasion in the Balkans. Rome fell to the allies in mid-June, ending the allied juggernaut into Western Europe. The Balkans campaign continued until the late fall of 1944 with the allies controlling Greece, Bulgaria and southern Yugoslavia.

Hitler launched a counter offensive against the allies in Italy and the Balkans hoping to push them out of Europe for good. Fortunately the allies were too well entrenched, holding their ground. With winter giving way to spring, Germany was locked in a stalemate with the allies, neither side giving more than a few miles.

The allies captured Belgrade and Bucharest in July 1945 but the war quickly resettled into a stalemate until August when the United States dropped the first atomic bomb on Frankfurt. The allies gave warning to both Germany and Japan to lay down their weapons or the United States will be forced to use the weapon again. Three days later the city of Hiroshima fell victim to the United States nuclear arsenal.

Japan surrendered to the United States aboard the USS Missouri in September 1945, it is speculated it was the successful American/ANZAC invasion of the Korean peninsula that forced Japans hand to surrender. The end of the Pacific War allowed the troops to join their brethren in Europe. Pamphlets showing the ruins of Frankfurt and Hiroshima were dropped across Europe warning the Germans to surrender or be destroyed with the allied nuclear arsenal. It was a bluff the German military was not willing to call, Hitler was assassinated in a coup d’etat in late October. The German Army began to negotiate peace with the allies, offering to withdraw back to August 31, 1939 borders. The allies remained adamant about Germany’s unconditional surrender, when the German Army refused, the final Atomic bomb was dropped on Cologne with the warning for Germany to surrender unconditionally or Berlin will be next. Again the German military was unwilling to take that chance, in December 1945 Germany agreed to surrender.

The smoke hadn’t even settled from World War II when China and Russia fell into Civil War. But for now the allies main concern was Europe and Japan both were in ruins and in desperate need of food, and other essentials to subside.
 
I like it. It recognizes that the Allies couldn't win, and addresses in a logical fashion the idea that the Germans could win 'if only' they beat Russia at Moscow.

I think that if the German gernaerals were in charge they would surrender after the first bomb, but the scenario makes sense.

Very different post-War period. Without Soviet insistance or involvement in the endgame, Germany would retain its pre-war borders.

I your opinion would their be a Marshal Plan?
 
I believe that there would be a marsall plan to rebuild europe, but you've also got a severly weakened soviet bloc. With this, we're looking at a soley american superpower. I am guessing that GB ends up detonating an atom bomb first after the americans, then maybe the italians or Spanish. Then the french, then the Germans, soviets and chinese, enbroiled in Civil war, don't bother with it. What of the Wermacht in Russia, do they fall back to germany, or do they stay, and set up little principalities? Come on, they've got a one million plus standing army in the eastern theater of operations, that isn't just gonna fall back, that's one hell of a force to be rekoned with. Not to mention, they're caucky as hell, they haden't been beaten ONCE.
 
Also, due to the nuclear bombings, we're looking at one hell of a lot of radiation floating around in the air around central europe, will the crops come back in the areas around frankfurt, or are we looking at a few dozen years of radiation poisoned crops, and increased ammount of cancer?
 
Interesting...

There are a lot of good points in this TL. I've got one or two comments of my own:

1) The fall of Moscow wouldn't necessarily have caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. My belief is that if the city had fallen, Beria would have moved against Stalin and having disposed of the dictator, made a peace with Germany. It should be remembered Beria, Himmler and Heydrich had lines of communication open until almost the beginning of Barbarossa. A Treaty in 1942 would have been far harsher to the Russians than Brest-Litovsk in 1918. Ukraine and the Baltic States would have become pro-German provinces (no need for Einsatzgruppen as there would have been much less resistance if Soviet authority has collapsed).

2) There was nothing of military value left on Gibraltar. Far more important was Malta. I think that if the Germans had been able to occupy Malta in 1941 or early 1942 this would have had a profound effect on developments in North Africa. The Afrika Korps suffered severe losses in supplies to Allied shipping and aircraft operating out of Malta. If the island is in Axis control, it will be the Allies who face air and naval attack. The Iberian campaign is a sideshow.

3) I would under the circumstances described concentrate on Operation Dragoon, the Riviera Landing, of August 15th 1944 (OTL). Of course, the Germans could hold lines along the Rhone Valley, the Belfort Gap and even the Rhine itself but most of western France could be isolated. Let's not forget Britain stays unoccupied and Overlord is still possible from southern Britain though I take your point that if the Russian Front winds down from late 1942, the Germans have more opportunities to build defences in the West.

4) There is little doubt that Oppenheimer and others on the Manhattan project would have been delighted to see the first A-Bomb attacks on Germany rather than Japan. My idea of a potential "target" is Munich (ideologically significant to the Nazis), Nuremburg (ditto), Hanover and Dresden (the last two because the blast would be visible from Berlin without much collateral damage to the german capital). Within a few hours or days, the Germans would have a real sense of the devastation visited on them. How they would have reacted is less clear. Hitler wouldn't have surrendered of course but the likes of Himmler and Goering may have been more pragmatic.

5) In the event of a sudden German collapse, the Allies would have had to put small military liaison groups into places like Norway, Denmark, Holland and Poland to deal with a mass surrender of perhaps 3 or 4 million German and Axis troops. This would be a daunting task and, as in the Far East in 1945, probably would have required German forces to maintain law and order until disarmed by American or Anglo-French forces. For the western European countries, I would imagine a process of liberation as in OTL with the exiled Governments returning from London. This might also happen in Poland. In Greece, the monarchists take over as the Germans leave.

6) I see huge problems in Yugoslavia with Croat and Serb resistance groups fighting for control and what of the Baltic States and Ukraine ? The former could be restored to pre-1940 independence but Ukraine would be a different case. How and in what way is Russia restored once the Germans are withdrawn and disarmed ?

7) As for the Far East, presumably Korea is broken free of Japan but what of China ? Without Soviet assistance, I assume the KMT under Chiang Kai-Shek reclaims the country. Does Vietnam get bogged down in a war for independence or can Ho Chi Minh, with American assistance, negotiate a peaceful path with the French ?
 
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