Hammer's, Sickle's, and Mushroom Clouds. the Story of the Reverse Cold War

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I have finished over half of the 1999 update, it will be up within the next 24 hours most likely.

and it is going to be very big..
 
“They will either hand over the terrorists responsible for these heinous attacks on our Motherland, or they will share in their ultimate and final fate!.”​



Russian President, Alisha Zolnerowich's ultimatum to the Peruvian government, spoken to the nation on National TV on July 30th, 1999​



Chapter 32: January 1st, 1999 (Moscow, Russia) - January 1st, 2000 (Lima, Peru)
Second Cold War
War on Terror
Somebody Really Hates the Russians

As the world entered into 1999, Many things were on the minds of the nations of the world, the Troubles of Africa, the Growing Beylevian Crisis, the upcoming Moon Landing Memorial in Russia, economics, and their daily lives, the turn of the century was fast approaching, and the world hoped to enter a brand new century with a clean slate, however as would be found it, the end of the 20th Century, especially for Russia, would be nothing resembling a clean slate.​

Well, At least they aren't using Gas still..

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Troops of the Polisario Front move to engage Moroccan forces.


Over in Africa, the Polisario Front had rolled back the previous year's Moroccan offensive and regained most of the territory they had lost in 1997, the Polisario Front, who was gaining increasing support across the world, entered into covert arms deals with the Ottoman Empire, Algeria, Mauritania and Mali, and begin receiving surplus of arms and officers to help train the ragtag Guerilla force the Sahrawi's had, the training and arms sales led to the Sahrawi military increasingly becoming more of a professional military force compared to a force of underground rebels, Morocco on the other hand, was increasingly becoming diplomatically isolated, it's officer apparatus was aging, conservative and unwilling to take many risks, and the nation had formally alienated even those who previously supported it against the Sahrawi's were turning against it.​

the Sahrawi's spent much of early 1999 preparing for a cultimating offensive against Morocco, who's populace was tired of war, and who's Military was slowly loosing control of the parts of Western Sahara it controlled, the Sahrawi's launched their Spring Offensive on March 27th, 1999, the Moroccan armies were completely caught off guard by the strength of the Sahrawi offensive, which was supported in a de facto sense by the Algerian Air Force under the guise of the Algerian Volunteer Air Corps, the Moroccan Army was not able to stop the Sahrawi offensive, and were quickly pushed back in all directions, this culminated in the Battle of El Aaiún (April 23rd-May 8th), El Aaiún was considered the most strategic goal in the campaign to liberate Western Sahara for the Polisario Front, it being their claimed capital, the Moroccan garrison in the city was unwilling to effectively defend the city as Moroccan morale was at a all time low, and the city eventually fell to Sahrawi forces on May 8th, the Sahrawi's continued their push northwards, crossing into Morocco proper, the loss at El Aaiún was the final straw for Morocco, the pro-war leadership was overthrown in a coup d'état conducted by the Moroccan military, and King Hassan II was put under Military Arrest, the new Military Government of Morocco quickly signed a Ceasefire and entered into peace negotiations with the Polisario Front, with culminated in late 1999 with the Treaty of Casablanca, in which Morocco recognized the independence of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, and also finalized resource and border issues between the two sides, formally ending the Western Saharan War.​

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Sahrawi's in the Algerian capital of Algeirs celebrate the news of the Moroccan surrender

Elsewhere in Africa, the South African Civil War continued another year, still with no end in sight, intermediate clashes between SADF and ANC continued throughout the year, a attempt at a major offensive was conducted by South African Defense Force in the Summer of 1999, but this offensive was halted by the forces of the ANC, both sides proceeded to retreat back behind there front lines as the war dragged on into the New Century, with still no peace in sight.​

Oh No, Just Crimea a River...

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Ethnic Russians protesting in downtown Simferopol against the Ukrainian government's refusal to recognize the referendum, in which a majority of Crimea's population voted to secede from Ukraine and join Russia

the Crimean Crisis that had ended two years prior resulted in the granting of Autonomy to the majority ethnic Russian Crimean peninsula as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, after the Crimean Liberation League, a Russian and Tatar organization led by a Crimean Tatar by the name of Gabdulkhay Akhatov had succeeded in applying pressure to Kiev regarding the issue, however Simferopol Accords, of which Kiev, Simferopol, and Moscow were all signatories off, A treaty which formed the Autonomous Republic had the stipulation that Kiev would allow the Crimea, if it desired, to hold a referendum on it's final status, in April of 1999, Simferopol decreed that after several Pro-Russian and Anti-Ukrainian protests that had overtaken the peninsula, that it would call for a referendum on it's status, which Kiev complied with, the Referendum was held under the supervision of Council of Nations authorities on May 9th, 1999, the referendum results came out with 62.7% voting to secede from Ukraine and join Russia, and applied to Kiev to recognize to the results of the referendum, and asked Moscow if it would accept Crimea into Russia.​

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Pro-Russian and Pro-Ukrainian demonstrators argue in downtown Sevastopol, the 1999 Crimean Crisis was a tense time for all

Moscow, and the Council of Nations declared it would accept the results of the referendum, and the Russian Duma passed legislature regarding the ascension of Crimea as the newest Oblast to the Republic, however Kiev, in violation of the Simferopol Accords, decried the Crimean referendum as illegal, and sent it's Military in to quell Pro-Russian elements within the peninsula, the response of the Council of Nations and Russia was negative, with both calling on Kiev to recognize the results of the Crimean referendum, which Kiev promptly refused, decreeing Pro-Russian parties in the peninsula as Terrorist organizations, and abolishing Crimea's autonomy, however tensions in the Ukraine between Ethnic Russians in the East exploded, as cites all across the Ukraine fell into violence due to ethnic tensions, and dissent regarding the economic failure Ukraine was in, the government in Kiev quickly began losing control of the situation, and was overthrown in a Coup d'état by the Ukrainian military on July 11th, 1999, the new Ukrainian government quickly began by recognizing the results of the May Crimean referendum, and allowed Crimea to join Russia, and began focusing on repairing Ukraine.​

Elsewhere in Europe, 1999 was a relatively good year for the European economy until certain events in July, however, even after that, Europe had a relatively decent year, Eastern Europe, sans Ukraine, saw economic growth during the time period, this was most prominent in Lithuania, which saw a economic boom during 1999 to a influx of markets into Eastern Europe from newly rich Western businessmen.​

Bongo in the Congo


Congolese forces moving to attack Beylevian positions, circa early 1999

Negotiations between the Congo and EATU regarding the issue had broken apart in the waning months of 1998 when the Conference at Ypres, Belgium had failed when Kinshasa refused EATU's proposed plan, known as the "Status Quo Plus", which would have returned Beylevia's pre-1990 autonomy and introduced democracy to the region under international supervisors, and then continued to escalate it's attacks on the Beylevian's, most evident by the Ubundu Massacre that occurred on Christmas Day (Christmas in the Western World), 1998, Kinshasa's actions had made it clear to EATU Secretary General Vladimir Putin that their was not going to be any reasoning with Kinshasa, and that the only thing that would work would be military force, and thus ordered EATU to "initiate air operations in the Democratic Republic of the Congo" at midnight, December 26th. Kinshasa announced on state elevision it had declared a state of emergency citing an imminent threat of war and began a huge mobilisation of troops and resources, proving they were willing to cross the Red Line and go to war with EATU.​

EATU's Africa Forces, mostly stationed in Kamerun, the Central African Republic and Tanganyika, began preparing for the bombing campaign, which began as planned at Midnight, when the first EATU bomber, a German craft, flew and attacked a fuel depot in Kinshasa, EATU planned a campaign that was detailed as "Congolese out, peacekeepers in, refugees back", That is, Congolese troops would be forced to leave Beylevia and be replaced by international peacekeepers monitored by the Council of Nations to ensure that the Beylevian refugees could return to their homes, the campaign was originally designed to target high value military targets and air defenses, and Helsinki (the headquarters of EATU) had not expected the bombing campaign to last more then a few days, however extensive bad weather and surprising will Congolese President Denis Sassou-Nguesso and the Congolese showed to the bombing campaign, the EATU campaign quickly switched focus to attacking Congolese units on the ground, while maintaining the strategic bombing campaign, eventually leading to the use of dual-use targets, that is targets useful to both civilians and the military, such as bridges, power stations, hospitals, factories, and other targets, however some of these targets were questionably in their legality pertaining to international law or the Ajaccio Conventions.​

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EATU forces are shown entering Beylevia after the peace agreement between Kinshasa and EATU was signed, here, Locals watch on as the German Armored Brigade makes it way through a small city.

The Bombing Campaign Continued Through April, and the conflict was seemingly no closer to a active resolution, as the conflict dragged on, the High Brass of EATU started to consider active ground operations, the German government was supportive of the idea of ground operations in the Congo, and it ordered 50,000 soldiers of the Imperial Army to be ready for ground operations in Congo, however such moves were considered drastic by Moscow, and President Zolnerowich in particular, who sought to try and find a way to destabilize Kinshasa without committing ground troops to a fight. thing would change in May however, as Congolese President Denis Sassou-Nguesso, who had been hoping for American intervention to stop NATO's bombing campaign, realized that no American help would be coming, and thus accepted a offer at American mediation in the conflict, agreeing to a military presence within Beylevia headed by the CoN, but incorporating EATU troops, EATU soon deployed the peacekeeping Beylevian Force (BFOR), consisting of armies from 13 different nations, to take up peacekeeping operations in Beylevia, and ended the bombing campaign, thus ending the Beylevian War.​

Oh Shit, It's America Fucking Up Again!

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Interim American President Mitt Romney shown here on his way to a meeting at with the Legislature, Romney would later be elected on his own merit in March of 2000

Across the sea in North America, things had been relatively quiet over the last few years since the chaos that had been the UASR Wars of the Early 1990's (Aurumia, Unita, among others), however the American Federation remained embroiled in conflict with the self declared "Islamic Republic of Oolitica", a Islamic Republic declared by a group known as the Nation of Islam, that declared independence in 1991 during the collapse of the UASR, the War had dragged on since the, and increasingly incompetent military administration had failed to decisively defeat the breakaway Republic, the Administration of Ted Kennedy was a complicated one, and as the Presidential Elections in 2000 drew near, challengers began facing up to take on Kennedy, in mid 1999, Ted Kennedy had shuffled his Deputy Ministers for the 11th time, one of the men appointed, the man appointed as First Deputy Minister, and then Prime Minister of the American Federation, was a certain Boston born individual by the name of Mitt Romney, the former Director of the KGB was a relative unknown in the modern political scene, and those who knew of Romney saw him as a spineless and weak political official who had no future, and would be filed out as previous Prime Ministers under Kennedy had, however, Romney soon began to prove himself, especially as he was Kennedy's designated successor to the Presidency, Romney began to campaign hard to earn a good public image, his law and order attitude and unrelentless attitude towards the Oolitican War soon raised his popularity immensely and allowed him to take over compared to his rivals.​

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Pro-democracy demonstrators protest against Brian Mulroney's regime in downtown Ottawa, the National Unitist regime would fall just a month later, and Democracy returned to Canada


However the unexpected resignation of Ted Kennedy in early July of 1999 left Romney to take over acting President of America, Romney immediately got to work with dealing with the American Federation's problem, in most particular the Oolitican War against the Nation of Islam's regime, Romney began a series of military reforms to help strengthen the armed forces, along with a series of sweeping agricultural and educational reforms, however Romney was quickly faced with his first crisis, in the form of the Canadian Spring, the radical wing of the National Unitists and Brian Mulroney had taken over Canada in the aftermath of the Quebecois-Canadian War, however the regime, openly Fascist and even openly National Socialist had been losing support over the years since their take over, and the Sponsi had trouble keeping down protestors and dissent in the nation, in the geopolitical sense, Canada was a Nuclear Armed Pariah State that was a direct threat to Washington, and Romney saw a opening to eliminate a threat, Washington began directly supporting Democratic and Anti-Fascist revolutionaries against Ottawa, the unrest and popular discontent at Ottawa's policy's was clear, and the Canadian military soon began to defect to the side of the revolutionaries, with his power base crumbling around him, Brian Mulroney decided to escape the country, using a unmarked plane to leave the country, however the plane was spotted by the American Air Force over New England, and subsequently shot down, Mulroney was apprehended by Washington, and promptly turned over to the Council of Nations for trial on Criminal Charges which included ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity, as his crimes and active genocidal campaign against Canada's Inuits and Indians was discovered, the Revolutionaries, supported by most of the Military, soon quickly overthrew the remaining elements of the National Unitists, and established a Provisional Government in Ottawa, after signing a Treaty with Washington, the new Canadian government agreed to turn over it's Nuclear Weapons to America for disarming or destruction, and agreed to lease the Halifax Naval Base to America for a period of 40 years, with a option to extend it another 20 years when the time expires, within his first year of having power, Mitt Romney had already proven himself as a competent leader, and a man willing to do what needs to be done to achieve America's goals, and he was subsequently elected to the Presidency in his own name in March of 2000.​

a Grand Memorial for more then Our Self Gratitude, Madame President.

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Part of the Crowd gathering in preparation for the Moon Landing Memorial Ceremonies, seen here in Leon Trotsky Memorial Park

For the last three years, Russia had been preparing for the 30th Anniversary of the Moon Landings on July 20th, 1999, 30 Years Prior, Soyuz-4, commanded by Yuri Gagarin, had landed the first man on the Moon, and the Russian government had decided to honor the occasion by building a memorial to the Soyuz crew in downtown Petrograd, in historic Petrograd Square, July 20th was also coincidently the date of the opening of the International Space Agency's office in Petrograd, and thus the Kremlin decided to make it all one giant event, both Vice President Misha Pasternack and President Alisha Zolnerowich were to attend to open and commemorate the day, and dedicate both the ISA offices and the actual Memorial, it was estimated over 40 foreign dignitaries from 15 countries were to attend, including German Foreign Minister Rudolf Kauffman, the heads of each of the Member Space Agencies of the ISA, CoN Secretary General William Joyce, and Yuri Gagarin himself (despite not being foreign, he was the Guest of Honor as the only surviving crew member of the Soyuz-4 Crew still alive), the event was described as the biggest International Event of the century, and was to be broadcast live on Russian State TV, and foreign channels such as BBC, GBC, AT (America Today), and Al-Jazeera, among others.​

The Ceremonies started around 11:00 AM, Vice President Misha Pasternack began by opening with a speech on the erected platform in front of the Memorial, by speaking of the significance of the Moon Landing, the Bravery of these Men, and the hard work and sweat it took to achieve the Moon Landing, before introducing and allowing Gagarin to speak, after Gagarin spoke, Pasternack took the mic again, and spoke another speech about the Moon Landing, and then the significance of today's events, regarding the ISA, and how they were here to honor the past, and look towards the future, Officials unveiled the Memorial, which was a statue of Gagarin taking the first steps, as the rest of the crew stand in front of the Soyuz craft in the background, as Pasternack was about to turn the ceremonies over to Zolnerowich, who was a few blocks away in front of the ISA offices, disaster struck.​

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the famous Petrograd Hotel on fire after a bomb blew up and destroyed much of the Second Floor of the Hotel.


A Explosive Device that was rigged under the stage exploded, the explosion took out the stage and everyone on it, mortally wounding everyone on the Stage, including Secretary General Joyce, Gagarin, and Vice President Pasternack, hundreds in the crowd were either mortally wounded or extremely hurt, as the rest began to flee the scene and medical officials rushed in, hearing the explosion at the Memorial, the KGB and officials at the ISA Office attempted to evacuate the crowd and President Zolnerowich, however a second explosive device almost simultaneous with the other one went off under the stage at the Offices, sending shrapnel and fire in all directions, however Zolnerowich, despite being seriously injured by the blast, with shrapnel and even a bullet that was apart of the device flying into her legs and torso, along with a few broken ribs, was not standing directly above the device when it exploded, and combined with the fact she was not hit in any major organs, escaped the explosion with her life, others were not so lucky, such as the German Foreign Minister, and hundreds of more Civilians, however the attacks did not stop there, as dozens of more bombs continued to go off in Petrograd throughout the day, at business hubs, commercial centers, residential areas and even a Daycare, the Bombs continued going off throughout the day, finally ending around 1:30 PM, by the time the attacks had ended, a estimated 11,000 people were killed in the attacks on July 20th, with the final total rounding out at 11,230 people. including several important Russian and international officials, the most notable being Vice President Pasternack, who passed from his wounds later in the day despite Doctor's best attempts to save him.​

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a section of Leon Trotsky Memorial Hospital on fire after a bomb exploded in the West Wing of the Hospital.

Russian authorities quickly jumped to figure out who was responsible for the attacks with the assistance of the Council of Nations and several International Organizations from various countries as the Russian and international public demanded answers, Russian and International authorities quickly detained a suspicious Latin American looking man who had been seen leaving the area in front of the Memorial shortly before the attacks and the ceremonies. and soon figured out that members of the Peruvian terrorist organization, the "Yachakuq", were responsible for the 7/20 Attacks in Petrograd, and eyes began to look at the leader of the Yachakuq, Arduri Ñahui-Cusi.​

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Acting President and Speaker of the Duma, Mikhail Gorbachev, addresses the media in the wake of the Petrograd Attacks. circa July 21st.

the Russian government, lead at the time by Acting President Mikhail Gorbachev, the Speaker of the Duma, who was acting in the capacity of the President due to Alisha Zolnerowich's injuries that she suffered during the Petrograd Attacks, moved to put pressure on Peru regarding the incident, and demanded that the Awqanakuyq lead Peruvian government hand over Ñahui-Cusi, Awganakuyq Foreign Minister Cupac Urco issued a statement in the name of the Awganakuyq later that day, denouncing the terrorist attack, and whoever was behind it in the official statement on July 20th, and on July 22nd, told the Brazilian government to inform the Russian government that they would consider extraditing Ñahui-Cusi if they provided credible evidence he was responsible for the attacks, Zolnerowich, from the Hospital, spoke to the nation on July 23rd, denounced the acts of terror committed on July 20th, as acts of war, and vowed to the nation that she would not rest, and resolved to pursue and conquer the Motherland's enemy, who as Zolnerowich described, were a cowardly band of thugs, who had not only attacked Russia, but they had attacked the world, and they would face the repercussions, the Russian State Department on July 24th, demanding "that the Awganakuyq surrender all known Yachakuq associates in Peru, provide intelligence on him and his affiliates and expel all terrorists from Peru", a week later, Zolnerowich again addressed the nation, stating that demanded that the Awganakuyq deliver Arduri Ñahui-Cusi and destroy bases of the Yachakuq. “They will either hand over the terrorists responsible for these heinous attacks on our Motherland, or they will share in their ultimate and final fate!.” She stated in a address for the nation on July 30th, 1999.​

On the same day, a group of 500 Religious Leaders in Peru convened to discuss the issue, they expressed sadness for the deaths in Petrograd, urging Ñahui-Cusi to leave the country and called on the Council of Nations to conduct a independent investigation into the Petrograd Attacks, informing Moscow that should it disagree, it would face "a war unlike any war it had faced before", Kremlin spokeperson's decried the declaration, stating the time for talking was over, the Awganakuyq responded to Moscow's statements with defiance, while declaring they were ready for war with Russia if need be, they reiterated their demand for evidence of Ñahui-Cusi involvement in the Petrograd attacks, and warned Russia that if it invaded, it would go the way of the UASR, who had attempted and failed in invading Peru in the previous decade, Russia remained defiant of Awganakuyq statements, and continued to refuse to negotiate with the group.​

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a Crew Member on ironically named Russian Destroyer, the "Petrograd", enjoys his leave as the Destroyer temporarily docks in Colón, Panama, before it would make it's way to Peru to take part in "Operation: Enduring Freedom", the Invasion of Peru

after failed attempts between Chile and Peru to send Ñahui-Cusi to Chile to be tired on a international tribunal, On August 6th, 1999, the Awganakuyq offered to try Yachakuq's leader in an Peruvian court, so long as Russia provided what the Awanakuyq called "solid evidence" of his guilt.The Kremlin dismissed the request for proof as "request for delay or prevarication"; EATU Secretary General Vladimir Putin stated that the evidence the Kremlin had on Ñahui-Cusi was "very clear and compelling". 2 days later, as a Russian aerial bombing campaign against Peru began, President Zolnerowich, still recovering from her injuries ignored all questions about the Awganakuyq's offer and said to Russian and international media insttead "Full warning had been given, and time is running out." The same day, the State Department gave the Chilean government one last message to deliver to the Awganakuyq: Hand over all Yachakuq leaders or Russia decreed that "every pillar of their regime will be destroyed", Awganakuyq's leaders remained defiant in head of International Pressure, and on August 6th, 1999, President Zolnerowich gave the order to commence with the full-scale Ground, Naval and Air invasion of Peru, to begin as soon as the forces can get on the ground.​
 
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Alright, so it has begun, the chaotic year of 1999 has ended, the Crimea seceded and joined Russia, Mulroney's gang of lunatics fell, the Congolese received a dose of the Bear, Freedom Edition, and the despicable attacks on Petrograd, our dear President of Russia, and Russia itself have occurred, and the War on Terror has begun.


Map and pictures tomorrow, just because I am exhausted.
 
Epic! Just epic! Nachi-Cusi will have to pay dearly, but Russia will likely have to pay just as dearly when it invades the Awqanakuyq regime...

What sort of explosive devices were used in the 7/20 attacks? Hijacked planes, or conventional car/truck bombs, or was it a mix of different methods?

And what then happened to the ISA and the Moon Landing memorial? Did it get reconstructed, or was it kept as Ground Zero?
 
Russian 9/11! :eek:

I wonder if China and/or India will give support to the Peruvians here, seeing as how, unlike IOTL, there's still a Cold War going on.
 
July 20th, nineteen ninety nine. A date which will live in infamy....

Peru may be Afganistan, but after 11,230 dead including the vice president, I would not want to be on Russia's bad side right now. On the bright side though, the Nasi Canadians are gone!

Anywho, good update.
 
Epic! Just epic! Nachi-Cusi will have to pay dearly, but Russia will likely have to pay just as dearly when it invades the Awqanakuyq regime...

What sort of explosive devices were used in the 7/20 attacks? Hijacked planes, or conventional car/truck bombs, or was it a mix of different methods?

And what then happened to the ISA and the Moon Landing memorial? Did it get reconstructed, or was it kept as Ground Zero?

Well, America didn't do so well in Peru did it? the Russians also haven't had a good track record fighting wars in South America either, if we are to take Venezuela as any proof, so it's definitely entirely possible, but yes, Nachi-Cusi will definitely have to pay dearly, Russia is very very pissed right now, the Russians (and most of the International Community in general) want his blood, more or less.

They were conventional bombs, through they were pretty powerful bombs as well.

As for what happened to the offices of the ISA and the Moon Landing memorial, their really wasn't one "Ground Zero", as the attacks happened all over the city, but the ISA Offices will likely get repaired, with the area near the Moon Landing memorial will likely be turned into a memorial to honor the dead. as it was where the first bomb exploded, while the Moon Landing memorial will be reconstructed near the ISA offices, is what I find the most likely,

Russian 9/11! :eek:

I wonder if China and/or India will give support to the Peruvians here, seeing as how, unlike IOTL, there's still a Cold War going on.

It's possible, they may or they may not, you never know with Beijing and New Delhi, you could see them supporting Peru or supporting the Russians, it depends.

July 20th, nineteen ninety nine. A date which will live in infamy....

Peru may be Afganistan, but after 11,230 dead including the vice president, I would not want to be on Russia's bad side right now. On the bright side though, the Nasi Canadians are gone!

Anywho, good update.

Indeed, July 20th, 1999, is a date, which will indeed, live in infamy.

I don't think anybody is looking to be on Russia's bad side right now, the Russians, are to put it bluntly, out for blood, especially the blood of one Arduri Ñahui-Cusi, and Russia is, again, to put it bluntly, not going to step until it avenges the Petrograd Attacks and eradicates Terrorism, especially as Domestic and International Support is even higher for the Invasion ITTL then it was for Afghanistan in OTL (if that makes sense?). being a Anti-War Russian is almost like a death sentence in the political sense right now.

but yeah, the Nasi Canadians being gone is a good thing, and I think Crimea is happy to be back with Russia, so those are bright spots

and thanks. :)
 
Well, what sort of buildings did the Yachakuq group destroy/damage, except for the ISA one? Was it mainly religious buildings (e.g. was a main Orthodox Church destroyed?) or was it more the "capitalist" symbolic buildings like the HQ tower of a big bank, or something like the World Trade Center? Or did they aim at political buildings, e.g. ministries and police HQ?
 
Well, what sort of buildings did the Yachakuq group destroy/damage, except for the ISA one? Was it mainly religious buildings (e.g. was a main Orthodox Church destroyed?) or was it more the "capitalist" symbolic buildings like the HQ tower of a big bank, or something like the World Trade Center? Or did they aim at political buildings, e.g. ministries and police HQ?


It was mainly capitalist buildings, as I mentioned it the Update, it was business hubs, commercial centers, residential areas and even a Daycare, but they also attacked the two Orthodox Church's in the city, and the Police Station, and a bomb did explode at the analogue of the World Trade Center in the Financial District of the city (Petrograd being Russia's New York and all).

However, not a single building was completely per say destroyed, except maybe the Daycare (if it was ground floor single building type thing, that's unlikely in Petrograd however) but plenty were heavily damaged.
 
11,000 is a ridiculous amount of casualties for "small" conventional explosives.


No it's not, there were dozens of them that went off across the entire city over a period of several hours, and the casualties mounted up over time. especially as most of the Bombs went off in highly crowded and heavily trafficked areas across the entire city.
 

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No it's not, there were dozens of them that went off across the entire city over a period of several hours, and the casualties mounted up over time. especially as most of the Bombs went off in highly crowded and heavily trafficked areas across the entire city.

Which is what I'm getting at; the first bomb going off and taking out the Vice President and several others at a huge public event like that is going to mean everyone is already alerted and the buildings are evacuated, and with the bombs going off over several hours, when the first one in a major traffic/crowded area goes off that isn't an expected terrorist target, those areas would probably be cleared by the government and if not that, the citizens themselves would realize that standing in a crowd is not the best idea at the moment.
 
Which is what I'm getting at; the first bomb going off and taking out the Vice President and several others at a huge public event like that is going to mean everyone is already alerted and the buildings are evacuated, and with the bombs going off over several hours, when the first one in a major traffic/crowded area goes off that isn't an expected terrorist target, those areas would probably be cleared by the government and if not that, the citizens themselves would realize that standing in a crowd is not the best idea at the moment.


You make a fair point, but their is also the fact that the majority of the Bombs went off in the immediate aftermath of the one that took out the Vice President, authorities were not able to respond fast enough to prevent mass casualties from occurring as panicking people attempting to flee got caught up in the blast, the majority of casualties occurred within 25 minutes of the first blast that exploded under the Stage in front of the Memorial, before Authorities in Petrograd were able to respond fully and effectively..

Yes the attacks occurred over a period of several hours, but the majority of the damage occurred in the immediate aftermath of the first blast.
 

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You make a fair point, but their is also the fact that the majority of the Bombs went off in the immediate aftermath of the one that took out the Vice President, authorities were not able to respond fast enough to prevent mass casualties from occurring as panicking people attempting to flee got caught up in the blast, the majority of casualties occurred within 25 minutes of the first blast that exploded under the Stage in front of the Memorial, before Authorities in Petrograd were able to respond fully and effectively..

Yes the attacks occurred over a period of several hours, but the majority of the damage occurred in the immediate aftermath of the first blast.

That isn't over several hours; that's in quick succession with only a few minutes between each bomb.

Over several hours would mean something like, one every 20 or 30 minutes.
 
That isn't over several hours; that's in quick succession with only a few minutes between each bomb.

Over several hours would mean something like, one every 20 or 30 minutes.


Ugh, I was half asleep when I wrote the update, so maybe I fucked up on a few details. :eek:...

this is slightly embarrassing. but yes, the attack was so rapid and in succession that crowds and authorities largely had no time to react until it was all said and done.
 
I'm adding pictures now, however I can't find any good pictures to fit for the Petrograd attacks. that's my only problem.
 
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