"What Madness Is This?" - A Timeline

Good update. The British kicking the RU's in their captains quarters via Canada was something I didn't see coming at all.

Boston burning? Millions dead? This is truly only the begging of this "End Times" era. I mean, the shits really hit the fan now, I mean REALLY. :eek::D:p

About France, with British victory in the Canadian theater, what does this mean for Europe? Long bloody warfare in Britain I can see, but who will blow up in Frances face? It probably won't be as big a loss as the Invasion of Russia IOTL, so I imagine all of the countries ganging up on France wont happen, at least not for know. This may very well blow up in the long term. :eek:

Thanks! I was trying to reverse OTL US invasion of Canuckland, which resulted in scorched earth and Canada kicking America's butt. :D But it was a more even fight in this.

Not millions, but several hundred thousand. :eek: Pay attention as to how I described only the eastern R.U. getting sacked, and not the west. That will have big implications for a certain Windy City (my hometown, BTW). :D Chicago will probably become the big city for the R.U. later, with Boston being the site of "Siege Day" parades, where they burn effigies of Drummond and McDonald for decades to come. New York might end up gradually losing ground population wise. Philly will be the figurehead, but Chicago will likely rule later. :cool: I have the essential TL events mapped out in my head now, and brother, you ain't seen even close to how bad this is going to get.

Next chapter will be about the end of the war and Europe. All of Britain's going to be like OTL Northern Ireland at its worst.
 
The beginning of the true dystopia...

You are trying too hard. :rolleyes:

Not millions, but several hundred thousand. :eek: Pay attention as to how I described only the eastern R.U. getting sacked, and not the west. That will have big implications for a certain Windy City (my hometown, BTW). :D Chicago will probably become the big city for the R.U. later, with Boston being the site of "Siege Day" parades, where they burn effigies of Drummond and McDonald for decades to come. New York might end up gradually losing ground population wise. Philly will be the figurehead, but Chicago will likely rule later. :cool: I have the essential TL events mapped out in my head now, and brother, you ain't seen even close to how bad this is going to get.

Who was more willing to invade British Canada for the sake of conquest, the western or the eastern R.U.?

All of Britain's going to be like OTL Northern Ireland at its worst.

That does not sound too bad.
 
You are trying too hard. :rolleyes:



Who was more willing to invade British Canada for the sake of conquest, the western or the eastern R.U.?



That does not sound too bad.

Just making it clear. :p;) I wanted this chapter to make it the clearest before we head to the next chapter, at which point it becomes readily apparent that the world is awful. Remember, this is the ending of the prelude, the part where I set up what's going to happen. I was telling people how bad this was going to get so they'd keep reading. But now we're at the part where it becomes obvious. :D

Which half of the R.U. wanted Canadian territory, you mean? Probably eastern, with aims at Quebec.

It doesn't? Oh, okay. Uh, well it will be really, really bad then. :p
 
Just making it clear. :p;) I wanted this chapter to make it the clearest before we head to the next chapter, at which point it becomes readily apparent that the world is awful. Remember, this is the ending of the prelude, the part where I set up what's going to happen. I was telling people how bad this was going to get so they'd keep reading. But now we're at the part where it becomes obvious. :D

I see. You don't want shock/surprise your readers too much, do you?

Which half of the R.U. wanted Canadian territory, you mean? Probably eastern, with aims at Quebec.

Well, that means the Anglo-Canadian forces punished the right part of the R.U.
Speaking of Quebec, how are the French Canadians responding to the massive decline of British power?

It doesn't? Oh, okay. Uh, well it will be really, really bad then. :p

It is supposed to be a dystopian TL, but by AH.com standards "OTL Northern Ireland at its worst" is not a particularly nasty (Britain-)screw.
In fact, it's almost underwhelming after the rule of the Mad King and the most recent disasters.
 
Thanks! I was trying to reverse OTL US invasion of Canuckland, which resulted in scorched earth and Canada kicking America's butt. :D But it was a more even fight in this.

Not millions, but several hundred thousand. :eek: Pay attention as to how I described only the eastern R.U. getting sacked, and not the west. That will have big implications for a certain Windy City (my hometown, BTW). :D Chicago will probably become the big city for the R.U. later, with Boston being the site of "Siege Day" parades, where they burn effigies of Drummond and McDonald for decades to come. New York might end up gradually losing ground population wise. Philly will be the figurehead, but Chicago will likely rule later. :cool: I have the essential TL events mapped out in my head now, and brother, you ain't seen even close to how bad this is going to get.

Next chapter will be about the end of the war and Europe. All of Britain's going to be like OTL Northern Ireland at its worst.

Interesting.

Oh, well several hundred thousand was what I meant to say. :p Chicago as the capitol of the RUA? I must say this is a very cool butterfly. I've actually been there and its a great city. I've been only once though, when I was eight, as I had an uncle who worked there. :D New York losing population, this is very different from OTL. I actually live right across New York. :cool: I live in New Jersey, but the big apples literally just a drive away.

Siege Day? Well it looks as if the RUA will be a hardened, revanchist, hatefilled and overlly nationalistic nation for decades to come! :eek: Makes sense, this is a dystopia. Not just the devastation of the Canadian invasion will leave the RUA in this state, but they also have their Southern neighbors. They hated them before the war, and they'll probably accuse the Southrons of not helping them enough/throwing them under the bus during the Canadian invasion. They'll probably be all "Northern Americas are superior to everyone, to hell with our eneimes", and this mindset could affect their culture and everything massively.

Heck, the RUA being hardened, revanchist, hate-filled and overly nationalistic for most of the rest of its history seems all to plausible, and guessing by those propaganda posters you made, this all seems right. :eek: I image this is all correct, I mean it could be even worse then I described.

Can't wait for the new chapter. :) So this is what I expect in Britain; years of bloody indecisive warfare, common people rioting in the street against the French invaders (women and children will of course be victims), local warlords (mostly generals) filling the gaps of where the army is longer, Independence movements in Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and maybe Scotland (I think you mentioned they might stay), and a near or total collapse of the government, either that or a coup against King William.
 
I see. You don't want shock/surprise your readers too much, do you?


Well, that means the Anglo-Canadian forces punished the right part of the R.U.
Speaking of Quebec, how are the French Canadians responding to the massive decline of British power?


It is supposed to be a dystopian TL, but by AH.com standards "OTL Northern Ireland at its worst" is not a particularly nasty (Britain-)screw.
In fact, it's almost underwhelming after the rule of the Mad King and the most recent disasters.

Don't worry: I've told you guys this is a dystopia, but I have many, many gruesome shocks and surprises left. Also, I've been known to lie about certain things in my TL. :p:D

Quebec is in the next chapter, actually! I've had something planned for them for quite the long time.

You're right, I made a mistake. Have no fear, it will be pure chaos. :D I'm still mapping out just how bad it will get there.

Interesting.

Oh, well several hundred thousand was what I meant to say. :p Chicago as the capitol of the RUA? I must say this is a very cool butterfly. I've actually been there and its a great city. I've been only once though, when I was eight, as I had an uncle who worked there. :D New York losing population, this is very different from OTL. I actually live right across New York. :cool: I live in New Jersey, but the big apples literally just a drive away.

Siege Day? Well it looks as if the RUA will be a hardened, revanchist, hatefilled and overlly nationalistic nation for decades to come! :eek: Makes sense, this is a dystopia. Not just the devastation of the Canadian invasion will leave the RUA in this state, but they also have their Southern neighbors. They hated them before the war, and they'll probably accuse the Southrons of not helping them enough/throwing them under the bus during the Canadian invasion. They'll probably be all "Northern Americas are superior to everyone, to hell with our eneimes", and this mindset could affect their culture and everything massively.

Heck, the RUA being hardened, revanchist, hate-filled and overly nationalistic for most of the rest of its history seems all to plausible, and guessing by those propaganda posters you made, this all seems right. :eek: I image this is all correct, I mean it could be even worse then I described.

Can't wait for the new chapter. :) So this is what I expect in Britain; years of bloody indecisive warfare, common people rioting in the street against the French invaders (women and children will of course be victims), local warlords (mostly generals) filling the gaps of where the army is longer, Independence movements in Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and maybe Scotland (I think you mentioned they might stay), and a near or total collapse of the government, either that or a coup against King William.

I can hardly wait to write the smaller-NYC butterflies. It's gonna be wild not having them be the big city. That means modern American politics will lose any similarity to OTL that remains. Think of all the politicians who got their start in New York...

"Americans are better than all the other New World countries. Americans only come from the R.U.. Them Southrons ain't Americans." :D

King Wills really has it rough at this point. His rule, and verily, the Royal Family, is in serious trouble. The French might prop him up, but I haven't decided.
 
Don't worry: I've told you guys this is a dystopia, but I have many, many gruesome shocks and surprises left. Also, I've been known to lie about certain things in my TL. :p:D

Quebec is in the next chapter, actually! I've had something planned for them for quite the long time.

You're right, I made a mistake. Have no fear, it will be pure chaos. :D I'm still mapping out just how bad it will get there.



I can hardly wait to write the smaller-NYC butterflies. It's gonna be wild not having them be the big city. That means modern American politics will lose any similarity to OTL that remains. Think of all the politicians who got their start in New York...

"Americans are better than all the other New World countries. Americans only come from the R.U.. Them Southrons ain't Americans." :D

King Wills really has it rough at this point. His rule, and verily, the Royal Family, is in serious trouble. The French might prop him up, but I haven't decided.

I for one am very interested in whats going to happen to Quebec, and the rest of Canada for that matter. Obviously the Brits will lose it, its only a matter of time.

Smaller NYC and Boston, and for that matter, Eastern seaboard, will change everything. With OTL's metropolis as a second rate quasi-backwater, things will be very interesting both politically and economically down the road. The seaboard will probaly take a long time to recover, and it will be almost impossible for it to compete with the Southron cities, what with the North and South "switched" IITL. With the west the center of the RUA, what will happen to the Native Americans? Will they have it even worse than OTL?:eek: Either that or it may be worse in the RUA and slightly better in other places. The again, this is a dystopia so I may have to scratch that last statement.

Yeah that's a good way of putting it. A know a xenophobic and overlay nationalistic culture when I see it. ;) Speaking of the eastern seaborad, no NYC-Boston rivalry in this. In fact there probably won't be any such regional rivalries in the RUA, at least none that major. Even though IITL Americans have more regional pride, as it as OTL in early American history, with the North South rivalry, in the RUA regionalism will most likely be a very taboo thing. It'll maybe be seen as the thing that "tore the old US apart".

The French propping up William? So Britain becomes occupied by the French and their European allies? This reminds me of a prediction I forgot. There will be a "Day of Misery" ITTL now wont there. Even so, the French are going to have fun occupying Britain, what with the Northern Ireland-esque Guerrilla war, involving all those predictions I made before.

Speaking of the Day of Misery, TTL has allot of similarities to American King, some more coincidental than others. Lets see....

Dictatorial Chancellor Andrew Jackson
Archibald Bulloch surviving the evolution and leading the Republic of Georgia
More profound differences in Southern and Northern cultures
Britain getting its ass kicked by France
Invasion of the British isles
Monarchist Ireland
Independent Georgia, Carolinas and Vermont
France and Russia allies
Earlier death of both George III and IV
American and French allies

Thats all I got right now. :) Anyway, Napo, I'm making a USC map of the world in 1812. I'll hopefully finish it by the time the Napoleonic Wars are over. :cool:
 
I for one am very interested in whats going to happen to Quebec, and the rest of Canada for that matter. Obviously the Brits will lose it, its only a matter of time.

Smaller NYC and Boston, and for that matter, Eastern seaboard, will change everything. With OTL's metropolis as a second rate quasi-backwater, things will be very interesting both politically and economically down the road. The seaboard will probaly take a long time to recover, and it will be almost impossible for it to compete with the Southron cities, what with the North and South "switched" IITL. With the west the center of the RUA, what will happen to the Native Americans? Will they have it even worse than OTL?:eek: Either that or it may be worse in the RUA and slightly better in other places. The again, this is a dystopia so I may have to scratch that last statement.

Yeah that's a good way of putting it. A know a xenophobic and overlay nationalistic culture when I see it. ;) Speaking of the eastern seaborad, no NYC-Boston rivalry in this. In fact there probably won't be any such regional rivalries in the RUA, at least none that major. Even though IITL Americans have more regional pride, as it as OTL in early American history, with the North South rivalry, in the RUA regionalism will most likely be a very taboo thing. It'll maybe be seen as the thing that "tore the old US apart".

The French propping up William? So Britain becomes occupied by the French and their European allies? This reminds me of a prediction I forgot. There will be a "Day of Misery" ITTL now wont there. Even so, the French are going to have fun occupying Britain, what with the Northern Ireland-esque Guerrilla war, involving all those predictions I made before.

Speaking of the Day of Misery, TTL has allot of similarities to American King, some more coincidental than others. Lets see....

Dictatorial Chancellor Andrew Jackson
Archibald Bulloch surviving the evolution and leading the Republic of Georgia
More profound differences in Southern and Northern cultures
Britain getting its ass kicked by France
Invasion of the British isles
Monarchist Ireland
Independent Georgia, Carolinas and Vermont
France and Russia allies
Earlier death of both George III and IV
American and French allies

Thats all I got right now. :) Anyway, Napo, I'm making a USC map of the world in 1812. I'll hopefully finish it by the time the Napoleonic Wars are over. :cool:

Definitely, Canada will be very interesting.

Right on! This completes my North-South industry switch. And I did it plausibly. :D Regionalism will likely not be a favorite of the RU. :rolleyes: They overthrew the tyrannical federal government of Hamilton/Adams, but in there fanaticism are doing many of the same Federalist-type things, mandated by "democratic" majority of the very numerous heads of government.

Not sure about William yet. That's just me thinking out loud. ;)

Ah, you caught some of my references! :D Since both TLs had a Balkanization of North America, some are coincidental, but Chancellor Jackson is intentional, though I can assure you he will never be a monarch. :p

Awesome! I can you be my map maker, if you'd like.
 
Definitely, Canada will be very interesting.

Right on! This completes my North-South industry switch. And I did it plausibly. :D Regionalism will likely not be a favorite of the RU. :rolleyes: They overthrew the tyrannical federal government of Hamilton/Adams, but in there fanaticism are doing many of the same Federalist-type things, mandated by "democratic" majority of the very numerous heads of government.

Not sure about William yet. That's just me thinking out loud. ;)

Ah, you caught some of my references! :D Since both TLs had a Balkanization of North America, some are coincidental, but Chancellor Jackson is intentional, though I can assure you he will never be a monarch. :p

Awesome! I can you be my map maker, if you'd like.

I agree, can't wait to see what eventually goes down. :D:eek::cool:

I pretty much got that from the start. As for the whole "their no different than the evil government they overthrew" thing, I image many such governments will exist ITTL. This is a dystopia, plus I can't even tell you how many times its happened IOTL. :rolleyes:

Ah, I see. We'll just have to see what happens to Silly Billy. ;)

Oh, forgot some more American King similarities;

Russia gains more of Alaska/Canada
North and South hating each other
John Adams a failed figure
John Adams dying a painful death
Napoleon Bonaparte creating his own empire, of course
America allied with not only France, but Russia, Austria, and Prussia as well
Aaron Burr leading a quasi-dictatorship
America invading Canada, expect here it fails
Georgian Florida
American Caribbean, or Southron in this case

Thats all I got, but of course there could be more.

It would be an honor if I could be your map maker. :D I'm in!
 
Guess what I'm workin' on?

That's right.

The chapter I was working on when the banhammer fell is safely stowed away in OpenOffice. :D
 
I hope this is good quality, guys! I worked pretty hard on this. I'm a little rusty, but I think is an acceptable plot I have going.



PAX NAPOLEONICA
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"It has become increasingly clear to this journalist, that the French caesar thinks he has achieved supreme victory. He has met the enemy, and they are his, at least for now. What may lay down the road is unknown, but the stability of the empire will be difficult to maintain."

-Harold Jenkins Abernathy, Chief Editor of the Maryland Gazette, January 1, 1815



Napoleon declared the war over on Christmas Day, 1814, as he had promised several months before. In Canada, the British had been annihilated at last. McDonald had been captured in northern Quebec and was executed by the R.U. for war crimes, which was a startling event in a time when countries almost always respected rival military leaders and usually let them go or exchanged them if captured. Drummond escaped to an unknown fate, likely in the Great Canadian Frontier, leaving many Union citizens thirsting for revenge and wanting to take it out on Canadian citizens and POWs, which were sometimes executed for "war crimes" in batches of 100 or more.

EUROPE:

Back in Europe, Wellesley had been captured in May, 1814. After that, the war in Britain was effectively over. Ireland declared independence on the same day as Wales: May 16th. Joseph Bonaparte was installed by Napoleon as King of Ireland. Naples and Sicily, of which Joseph was formerly monarch of, went to his 15 year old daughter Zénaïde. His younger daughter, Charlotte, had died in an horrific carriage accident in 1813. Joseph took his only son, 16 year-old Dominique-Antoine Napoleon Bonaparte, with him to be Crown Prince Dominic of Ireland.

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King Joseph I, wearing Irish Green

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Flag of the Kingdom of Ireland

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Crown Prince Dominic I, age 16

Wales went for an aristocratic republican system. It was heavily inspired by the government of Virginia, and Braith Nash became the first Prince-President of Wales. Nash had acted as an emergency leader since the Welsh independence movement really took off, and was very popular. He desired maximum freedom for his people, and (though he was technically a prince), wanted the government to be very out of the people's way. Sadly, directly following the official declaration of Welsh independence, Nash was shot through the neck by a rifle-toting rooftop assassin. He died instantly. A new leader was elected, and the new fellow was the first leader in Wales to belong to a political party, the radical Plaid Cymru group. His name was Thomas Picton, and his history is fairly mysterious. He supposedly had served in French Revolution on the French side, as an expatriate. He was a quite typical democrat and moderate everyman at that point, allegedly. But then he met Robespierre and he drastically changed his viewpoints, becoming increasingly radical. He had Napoleon's approval when he was elected Prince-President, but afterward he quickly descended into a totalitarian state of mind.

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His Excellency, Braith Nash

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His Princely Majesty, Thomas Picton, Order of the Red Dragon


Wales and Ireland inspired Scotland to finally proclaim freedom from England in a surprise move. They proclaimed a constitutional republic and elected the 81 year-old Ralph Abercromby, a former general in the British Army of Scotland. He was considered a fervent Scottish nationalist, anti-English, and was by far the most appropriate choice for leader. He was an intimidating figure; he had lost an arm in 1802, and a large sword gash ran along the right side of his head. He actually became known as the "Highland Bear" throughout Europe, because of his stature and his ruthless habit of getting things done, and getting them done quickly.

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Ralph Abercromby

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Flag of the Republic of Scotland

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Scottish troops in their uniforms (old surplus British red uniforms they had dyed gray-blue)

The Republic of Scotland became a fairly happy country, but the area bordering Catholic Ireland was so volatile it had to be permanently staffed with French troops, chiefly at Fort Scotia, a massive seaside castle on the coast of Scotland completed in 1820 that was the definition of intimidation and martial law. Scotland tolerated the French troops there for now, but it would later become problematic.

The Isle of Man was ripped from William, and Napoleon made the island a part of the French Empire and himself Lord of Man. It made an excellent stronghold to keep an eye on Wales, Ireland, Scotland, and England. Shortly after, the French Caesar added Guernsey, Jersey, and all parts of the Channel Islands to his domains. He then proclaimed Cornwall to be a military occupation zone and a French dependency. He set up Marquis Laurent de Gouvion Saint-Cyr, of Truro Invasion fame, as Governor of Cornwall.

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Governor Laurent de Gouvion Saint-Cyr of Cornwall

Meanwhile, England was in chaos. Several attempts to overthrow the government had been attempted, chiefly by Arthur Wellesley, who plotted a peaceful overthrow of William during an event known as "The 100 Days," which took place after Wellesley escaped from an Irish prison camp with a few loyal officers. At the last moment, Wellington was defeated in a small skirmish with Williamite troops at a place called Waterley, on the west coast. He was handed over to the French and Irish by obedient William and was then exiled to the Falklands, where he died of arsenic poisoning and stomach cancer five years later.

William was desperately clinging to power as his kingdom had literally fallen apart around him and his inherited mental problems became more and more apparent. He would have to kowtow to France from this point on or be invaded, and if he did kowtow, the people would overthrow him eventually. So, finally, he announced he was abdicating the throne, which would go to his younger brother, Edward, who then became King Edward VII. In 1818, Edward married Marie Louise Viktoria, ex-wife of the late German nobleman Emich Carl, Prince of Leiningen. On May 24th, 1819, Princess Victoria of England was born.



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King Edward VII

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Queen Consort Viktoria

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Princess Victoria

Edward was a moderate man of moderate temperament, rather weak in fact, but he at least seemed to be solid in the brain, and hopes were high Princess Victoria would not turn out to be a screaming banshee of a madwoman later. The Queen Consort was known for worrying for her daughter's health, but publicly stated again and again that Victoria was perfectly sound of mind. The only thing she expressed concern about was who would marry the princess later; with a huge family history of insanity, megalomania, and homicidal psychosis, not many princes and dukes would be wanting to meet Victoria at the altar.


THE AMERICAS:

The French were quick to wrest Francophone Quebec from American influence, and they were also quick to warn the Union to only take areas of Canada approved by Napoleon. Threats of retaliation were issued to the American Consuls, saying that any attempt by American soldiers to occupy Canadian soil would be considered an act of war against France and her associates. This shocking warning worked, and the French government hunkered down to work out the new borders.

In the Republican Union, anti-French demagoguery sounded through the cities and was plastered on newspapers everywhere, as well as coverage of the ongoing hunt for "Drummond the Ogre." They had no clue that Drummond had escaped to British holdings in India (the last remnant of British colonialism) by early 1815. The R.U. proclaimed Christmas Eve to be "Remembrance Day," with festivities such as dressing in nothing but black, eating a minimal amount, going to church, and burning effigies of Drummond at the town squares. Boston proclaimed a city "holiday," officially called "Siege Day," when Canadian forces barraged and burnt 70% of the famous city down.

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Burning Drummond's Effigy in Chapelton, Pennsylvania, by Edward Staten (1821, Maryland Gazette)

Boston's growth was forever stunted, as was New York City's and Philadelphia's. After the war in Europe had wrapped up, the workforce, no longer producing guns, bullets, swords, and bayonets, started leaving for the New World. New Spain was largely ignored, as it was too unstable and Spain itself, though on the winning side of the Great Wars, was not considered likely to avoid going bankrupt soon.

France had taken over New Portugal, including all of Brazil, following the 1808 formation of the Portuguese Confederation. It then declared volatile Brazil to be an "independent Brazilian Republic." A new identity was forming in the decade after, a strange mix of Spanish, French, Indian, and Negro culture. It received quite a bit of immigration from France itself by wealthy businessmen seeking to create new plantations (and sometime unfairly rip farms out of middle-class Spanish growers). The Hispanics suddenly found themselves second-class citizens, and much of their wealth was what many would call "redistributed" to Frenchman by Napoleon's government. Tensions finally boiled over in 1819, when a mob of Spaniards stormed the Brazil government headquarters with torches and farming tools. Swiss mercenaries opened fire with their expensive rifled muskets, massacring the rioters. Napoleon declared martial law, and by 1820, the French were firmly the undisputed masters of New Portugal.

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Flag of the Brazilian Republic


Meanwhile, immigrants to the southern North American countries found themselves much of the time in a much fairer position. Georgia, CoCaro, Virginia, and the rest all highly-valued hard work, and let most any white man (and much of the time Hispanics) to rise wherever the sweat of their brow would take them. The Caribbean islands were a hotspot of new citizenry. Many of the ships coming from southern Europe would stop to resupply in the Caribbean, and many of the Europeans favored the warm climate and style of living and thought it reminiscent of places like Naples and the Mediterranean coast. Thomas Bragg's Virgin Islands Confederacy experienced a massive population boom. The quasi-independent and very peaceful and agricultural Jamaica also doubled in size at this point, becoming largely Germanic in its heritage.

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Germans board a ship in Hamburg to head to Jamaica, the Bahamas, and the Confederation of the Carolinas

In Georgia, though it was still considered a Protestant country, Catholic presence was increasing dramatically, largely due to the romance between the country and Catholic France. Spaniards were coming in even from New Spain, and shiploads of Irish and Catholic Scots were arriving daily. Savannah soon had its very own Little Ireland, and the metropolis grew and grew after that point, soon adding Eastern European neighborhoods, German speaking ones, and more than a few Italian areas. Savannah became "rife with Papal vermin infestations" according to R.U. newspapers, and deserved to be "exterminated like Sodom and the Whore of Rome itself." By 1840, Georgia would in fact be a predominantly Catholic country.

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Scots and Irish Sailing to New Orleans, by James Clyde (1821)

Despite the fairly decent treatment in other American countries, many immigrants recognized the most liberal republics were Virginia and Maryland. Virginia, as a largely agricultural country, needed as many immigrants as it could to bolster industry. French scientists and experts had been in Virginia for decades, trying to help their good ally move beyond cotton and tobacco. When mass waves of English, Eastern European, and Austrian families arrived, Newport News became Virginia's economic capital, along with Madisonville, on the Mississippi River.

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The Industrial Powerhouse of Newport News, Republic of Virginia, circa 1825

Maryland had an almost purely maritime tradition. Whaling, and the general whale oil industry, was predominate, with Maryland having gone so far as having beaten the R.U. to the valuable rights to fish off the coast of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, something which incensed the Consuls. It was only fitting that, after several brutal winters and poor harvests in the homelands (1814-18), the famously seafaring Scandinavians began pouring in with their fishing know-how and many of their own boats, forming a staunch far-right, ultra-Lutheran block of population, which severely outnumbered the formerly predominate Catholic population (though the Papists were never a true majority).

By 1825, the R.U. was lagging behind terribly, but in the coming decades it would form its own metropolis out west, along the Great Lakes, its main source of income. Shicagwa, already in 1825 the capital of the newly declared State of Iowai (formerly the Midwest Territory), would begin that same year, through shifty R.U. policies to develop into a large city. Iowai's government had proposed the idea to the Chief Consuls in 1823, right before statehood, that Shicagwa was in a perfect place to cause maximum profit; iron mines nearby and fishing on Lake Michigan were available, as well as the possibility of textile mills and such. The Consuls then sent agents to Eastern Europe to lure people to Shicagwa with the promises of fame and fortune and certain jobs. Families would save up for years to pull together the money to cross the Atlantic, only to find Shicagwa an impoverished shanty town, where the port bosses built up a reputation for cruelty and the factories were complete sweatshops. The cheap Slavic labor would soon spiral out of hand, with the immigrants becoming slaves in everything but name. And while the slave population in the south was decreasing and "enlightened" plantation masters were supposedly blacks with more dignity, the Slavs were treated with utter contempt. In Philadelphia, faced with civil unrest, the R.U. deployed its military to crack down. Huge prison castles were built in the Ohio wilderness, where any nonconformists were sent. The children of the immigrants were slowly drained of Orthodoxy by state-funded Sunday Schools at the factories, and they were taught that the other American countries, Britain, and France were all "fagots fit for the fire." While working in wretched conditions, abusive "Sunday School ministers" would lead the children in cadences. A Georgian traveler named Barnabas P. Jekyll wrote in his diary that "the state of the foreign little ones in the Union sickens me. It is an abomination. This damnable 'Republic' should be burned down."




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Three Serbian orphans roam the streets of Philadelphia

As the year 1826 approached, it looked as if another year of the Pax Napoleonica would come and go. But something triggered on the Gulf of Mexico was about to plunge New Spain into a Revolution, and back in Asia, decisions would have to be made about the all-important Partition of India, only now possible after a decade of stomping out insurrection. And last but not least, the fate of the Mysterious Orient.
 
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(Three days of dances and wild partying to be proclaimed. :D)

Exactly what I told Rooster: the mods are human beings just like us!

And interesting concept of pax napoleonica... Even though it seems one of those two words is out of context, and it isn't the adjective.:p

Maryland as a Scandinavia of the West... Well, it looks like an oversized fjord after all, but it's kind of weird to think of a nation full of Swedes and Danes as "hosting a staunch far-right, ultra-conservative" faction, seeing how secular those countries are now (but weren't in the 1810's, so points for you, Napo!)
 
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Wow, only one reply so far? Come on, guys! :D

YOU'RE BACK!!!!!! YOU'RE BAAAAACKKKK!!!!!!
(Three days of dances and wild partying to be proclaimed. :D)

Exactly what I told Rooster: the mods are human beings just like us!

And interesting concept of pax napoleonica... Even though it seems one of those two words is out of context, and it isn't the adjective.:p

Maryland as a Scandinavia of the West... Well, it looks like an oversized fjord after all, but it's kind of weird to think of a nation full of Swedes and Danes as "hosting a staunch far-right, ultra-conservative" faction, seeing how secular those countries are now (but weren't in the 1810's, so points for you, Napo!)

Yes, the Forum Gods are with me! :D

Definitely; it's largely a scam to placate people. The French will likely try to "quiet" its military actions. People will die, but state-run papers won't report on it.

Exactly, Scandinavia was staunchly Lutheran back then, so it works. I love messing with the cultural aspects in this TL. Because of the PODs, I'm free to do pretty much anything I want in the immigration areas. :D
 
A damn good update. :D Well worth the wait IMO.

So I assume Canada is now a French Colony? That wasn't made all to clear in the update, but I assume that is the case.

I love what you did with Wellington. You're great with hilariously ironic plot twists like that. :D You know, Wellington taking over his country after losing the war and ending up dying on a deserted island prison. In case it wasn't obvious enough. :p

Interesting balkanization of Britain. You said Scotland would stay with Britain earlier, but to be fair I kinda knew this may not happen. After all you do lie about the future of your timelines quite allot, so by this point, I know what to expect. ;):p

Cool and creative alternate immigration trends as well. The Southern nations thrive while the R.U. (is it also known as the R.U.A. btw?) becomes more dictatorial by the day. :( Not only is it ironic that the South and North switched places in terms of industrialization, but also in terms of culture. ITTL, the North will be seen as the place of backwards, racist bumpkins, while the Southerners will be seen as the enlightened ones. :eek:

Keep up the good work. That map I promised before you were banned should be up soon. :)
 
A damn good update. :D Well worth the wait IMO.

So I assume Canada is now a French Colony? That wasn't made all to clear in the update, but I assume that is the case.

I love what you did with Wellington. You're great with hilariously ironic plot twists like that. :D You know, Wellington taking over his country after losing the war and ending up dying on a deserted island prison. In case it wasn't obvious enough. :p

Interesting balkanization of Britain. You said Scotland would stay with Britain earlier, but to be fair I kinda knew this may not happen. After all you do lie about the future of your timelines quite allot, so by this point, I know what to expect. ;):p

Cool and creative alternate immigration trends as well. The Southern nations thrive while the R.U. (is it also known as the R.U.A. btw?) becomes more dictatorial by the day. :( Not only is it ironic that the South and North switched places in terms of industrialization, but also in terms of culture. ITTL, the North will be seen as the place of backwards, racist bumpkins, while the Southerners will be seen as the enlightened ones. :eek:

Keep up the good work. That map I promised before you were banned should be up soon. :)

Thanks a lot! :D

The final dividing of the British Empire will be the focus of the next chapter, so that will answer all Canadian questions. :cool:

In Britain, thanks to Cornwall, Man, and the Chnl. Is., the French have an effective bridge all the way up to Fort Scotia. If anything happens between Scotland and Ireland, France has a way to get in troops.

I thought about R.U.A., as well. I need to check in on the other chapters to see. I kind of like the simplicity of R.U.. EDIT: I looked. Just R.U.
 
Thanks a lot! :D

The final dividing of the British Empire will be the focus of the next chapter, so that will answer all Canadian questions. :cool:

In Britain, thanks to Cornwall, Man, and the Chnl. Is., the French have an effective bridge all the way up to Fort Scotia. If anything happens between Scotland and Ireland, France has a way to get in troops.

I thought about R.U.A., as well. I need to check in on the other chapters to see. I kind of like the simplicity of R.U..

I see. Also cool thing you did with Brazil.

Britain definatly is France's biotch for the time being. With those goings on in Asia though, things will be very interesting. You know Napo, I have a feeling you'll be in a lot of trouble when that bit of business goes down. You thought you had it all when you conquered Europe IITL now didn't you? You were friendly with Russia, got back Louisiana and defeated Britain, what could go wrong for you. So much could go wrong for you apparently. :p

R.U.A. does stress that the Republican Union (of America) is an American nation. I imagine both would be common place.
 
Britain definatly is France's biotch for the time being. With those goings on in Asia though, things will be very interesting. You know Napo, I have a feeling you'll be in a lot of trouble when that bit of business goes down. You thought you had it all when you conquered Europe IITL now didn't you? You were friendly with Russia, got back Louisiana and defeated Britain, what could go wrong for you. So much could go wrong for you apparently. :p

R.U.A. does stress that the Republican Union (of America) is an American nation. I imagine both would be common place.

Haha, yeah, I imagine Austria isn't going to want to let France take all of India and move into China. Most likely, Austria might call for a Congress of Vienna to decide what to do. :D

Actually, you just gave me a neat idea! I can have them change the name officially to R.U.A to reflect how they are the "True Americans and Vanguards of Liberty." :eek::D
 
Haha, yeah, I imagine Austria isn't going to want to let France take all of India and move into China. Most likely, Austria might call for a Congress of Vienna to decide what to do. :D

Actually, you just gave me a neat idea! I can have them change the name officially to R.U.A to reflect how they are the "True Americans and Vanguards of Liberty." :eek::D

Another great irony. :p

That's actually a great idea. :D
 
Welsh independence is very hard to believe. It was for all intents and purposes part of England. Had no devolved government and hand not been independent for centuries. There was simply no one in Wales in a position to declare independence. I know you wanted to be different and go for a historical irony (which I'm all for btw) but I'm just not buying an independent Wales.
 
Welsh independence is very hard to believe. It was for all intents and purposes part of England. Had no devolved government and hand not been independent for centuries. There was simply no one in Wales in a position to declare independence. I know you wanted to be different and go for a historical irony (which I'm all for btw) but I'm just not buying an independent Wales.

It may surprise you, but I agree. It was really a bit of fanservice for a couple Welsh friends of mine who have asked me many times to have an independent Wales. :p;) Other than that, I'm trying to follow strict plausibility when it comes to geographical-political affairs.

You may have just given me another idea... Picton gets out of control and the French move in and give Wales over to England again after Edward promises to be a good little underling. That would solve the plausibility issue, while still providing that bit of fanservice. :D
 
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