Map Thread XII
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One of the very few worlds were I'd consider moving to Katanga...
Just be sure to watch out for the Belgian desperados trying to take their lands back
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In ten years the Silent War has taken on new levels of complexity. In 1957, the African Red Army was founded in Ouagadougou, giving a headache to the ruling British, especially with the French and Americans funneling weapons to them, so that in 1960 the Federation of West Africa was founded. The ARA quickly took control of the Federation, and the Federation’s interim President, Leopold Senghor, was elected by the new Assembly of the Communes as Premier of the Union des Communes Afrique de l'Ouest.
In East Asia, a shaky alliance between the Japanese and the Russians formed, partially in response to rebellions against Japanese rule that would only grow more widespread as time went on. In the Caribbean, rump US President Curtis LeMay would ally with Russia, which was determined that the Panama Canal remain in their hands. To counter this, the AFSR began construction of the Nicaragua Canal. The nuclear arms race continued apace, with the four powers in possession of a thousand each by 1960. France was not far behind, with 587 in 1961.
The British colonies largely became independent over the course of the decade, as the southern African colonies gained dominion status. The British Commonwealth was founded in 1958, with a common Navy, Air Force, and Army. The Commonwealth Navy, along with their nuclear arsenal was seen as the guarantor of the Commonwealth’s independence from the two power blocs, as Canadian Prime Minister and Commonwealth General Secretary Lester B. Pearson maintained the Commonwealth’s policy of “armed isolation.”
The one chink in this was India, which began to drift into the American camp over this time, hosting Red Navy bases as a counter to Japanese-occupied Burma across the border. This in turn led the presence of the Commonwealth Navy in the Dominion of Sundaland to increase, as Singapore became the greatest Commonwealth Navy base in the world.
Allied with the UCAO, and with several former colonies and with the Congolese People’s Federation, the People’s Republic of France began to punch above its own weight. the French Navy became a fifth contender in an already-crowded world, and while their alliance with the Americans seemed secure, tensions would occasionally flare up, for example in 1963 with the Status of Forces crisis, when France refused to place its forces in the Germanies under American command, and nearly withdrew from the Comintern altogether. Another crisis happened in 1965, when Jugoslav Premier Petar Stambolic invited French troops- specifically French troops- to base in Jugoslavia, maintaining his nations alignment, and not membership, with the Comintern.
Russia tightened its grip on Eastern Europe, putting down rebellions with brutal efficiency. In 1964, 30-year-old Tsar Alexander IV died under mysterious circumstances, as did Marshal Tukhachevsky not long after that.His 24-year-old brother, Peter took the throne after that, and intelligence reports of a massive purge of Alexandrites in the Russian political apparatus was reported.
Meanwhile rebellions across east Asia grew in intensity and violence, as an entire generation of Japanese was being ground into hamburger meat by the endless revolts.
In East Asia, a shaky alliance between the Japanese and the Russians formed, partially in response to rebellions against Japanese rule that would only grow more widespread as time went on. In the Caribbean, rump US President Curtis LeMay would ally with Russia, which was determined that the Panama Canal remain in their hands. To counter this, the AFSR began construction of the Nicaragua Canal. The nuclear arms race continued apace, with the four powers in possession of a thousand each by 1960. France was not far behind, with 587 in 1961.
The British colonies largely became independent over the course of the decade, as the southern African colonies gained dominion status. The British Commonwealth was founded in 1958, with a common Navy, Air Force, and Army. The Commonwealth Navy, along with their nuclear arsenal was seen as the guarantor of the Commonwealth’s independence from the two power blocs, as Canadian Prime Minister and Commonwealth General Secretary Lester B. Pearson maintained the Commonwealth’s policy of “armed isolation.”
The one chink in this was India, which began to drift into the American camp over this time, hosting Red Navy bases as a counter to Japanese-occupied Burma across the border. This in turn led the presence of the Commonwealth Navy in the Dominion of Sundaland to increase, as Singapore became the greatest Commonwealth Navy base in the world.
Allied with the UCAO, and with several former colonies and with the Congolese People’s Federation, the People’s Republic of France began to punch above its own weight. the French Navy became a fifth contender in an already-crowded world, and while their alliance with the Americans seemed secure, tensions would occasionally flare up, for example in 1963 with the Status of Forces crisis, when France refused to place its forces in the Germanies under American command, and nearly withdrew from the Comintern altogether. Another crisis happened in 1965, when Jugoslav Premier Petar Stambolic invited French troops- specifically French troops- to base in Jugoslavia, maintaining his nations alignment, and not membership, with the Comintern.
Russia tightened its grip on Eastern Europe, putting down rebellions with brutal efficiency. In 1964, 30-year-old Tsar Alexander IV died under mysterious circumstances, as did Marshal Tukhachevsky not long after that.His 24-year-old brother, Peter took the throne after that, and intelligence reports of a massive purge of Alexandrites in the Russian political apparatus was reported.
Meanwhile rebellions across east Asia grew in intensity and violence, as an entire generation of Japanese was being ground into hamburger meat by the endless revolts.
Nick Griffalco
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My latest map. Set in an alternate 16th/17th century and among other things:
Atenism managed to last a few Pharaohs longer than it did in our world. Despite this Egypt still returned to the worship of the traditional Egyptian gods. However, Atenist are still a notable minority within Egypt and have managed to spread their religion to other nations. Speaking of Egypt, they've continued to expand southwards. The wealth of goods and minerals acquired by this conquest meant that even after Egypt's gold mines ran dry the empire was just as powerful as ever. Egypt now controls an empire stretching from the Cape to the Nile Delta; as well as a canal connecting the Meditadtianian and Red Sea.
The empire of Carthage, always a popular destination for Atenist escaping persecution in Egypt, was the first nation to convert to Atenism. Without competition from Rome, and with the Greek Empire occupied in Asia, Carthage has thrived as a trading empire. Despite some recent colonial loses to Ghana in South America, Carthage is remains fairly well respect in the international community.
The scattered Celtic tribes were united under a great warrior chieftain, known as Brennus, who formed them into a mighty empire. The Celtic Empire has adapted many new technologies from its neighbors. Most significantly, the Celts have developed a system of writing based largely off of the Greek alphabet. Missionaries from Carthage ensured that it wasn't long before the Celtic Empire converted to Atenism. Carthaginian shipbuilding expertise has allowed the Celts to establish colony along the eastern coast of North America.
The Republic of Novgorod has benefited greatly from its alliance with the Celtic Empire. As the Celts expanded eastward they were able to keep potential threats to Novgorod at a minimum, and trade between the two nations helps to supplement the republic's food supply during its harsh winters. Novgorod is renowned as a center of culture and scholarship as well as being a regional trading hub. Celtic merchants have also brought the word of Aten to the snowy republic.
Alexander the Great managed to live longer than he did in our world. He not only sired plenty of heirs to his empire, but focused on centralizing and maintaining the empire itself. The Greek Empire has gone on to expand into Central Asia and Italy, and is a major conduit in the exchange of ideas and goods between East and West. Alexander's goal of reconciling the many faiths and cultures of the empire resulted in the creation of a new religion: the Diamond Path.
The Diamond Path teaches that there is a universal divine essence which permeates all all things knows as The Truth. The Truth is unknowable in its pure form, but it makes itself more understandable via four paragons known as the Father, Mother, Son and Daughter. The four paragons were originally identified as Zeus, Cybele Mithras and Isis; however they have since been identified with all the gods and goddesses. The Diamond Path teaches that the various gods are merely mask that the four paragons wear to make themselves better understood by humanity. The Diamond Path is followed by Greece, Egypt and the Norse.
The Norse control Scandinavia and the British Isles as part of their Empire of the North. They've long since given up raiding to become the dominant trading power of the northern seas. The Norse began colonizing the New World in the 10th century, but they didn't start arriving en mass until the mid 14th century. Their largest colony is Markland, located along the St. Lawrence river valley.
Buddhism has found its way west thanks to merchants and missionaries from Bharat and Vijayanagara. Buddhist have found moderate success in Diamond Path nations due to their willingness to incorporate local deities; and are treated with suspicion by Atenist nations because of this. However, it was in the Empire of Arabia that Buddhist found the greatest success. A merchant turned conqueror, in time known as Mohammad the Great, united the tribes of Arabia around a new religion combining traditional Arabian beliefs and deities with Buddhist teachings. This new faith, known as Zensunni, has proven somewhat controversial among other Buddhist do to its somewhat violent origins.
Gwanggaeto the Great managed to live longer than he did in our world and united the Korean Peninsula. Taking advantage oft he chaos of China's Six Dynasties era, Gwanggaeto ceased the Mandate of Heaven and established the Goguryeo Dynasty. Gwanggaeto expanded into Manchuria and Japan to eliminate any potential threats to the Korean Empire. Recently, Korea has established colonies on the western coast of North America.
The Khmer and Srivijayan empires have developed into minor trading powers. Both nations are closely allied with fellow Hindu nations Bharat and Vijayanagara, and are the primary Pacific trading partners of the Mayan and Incan empires. Though both Khmer and Srivijaya currently lack colonies in the New World they have sent expeditions to scout for possible locations.
The Mayan city-stated were united into a single empire by charismatic warrior king. The Mayan Empire stretches from the Yucatan Peninsula to the central valley of Mexico. In many ways the Mayan Empire can be seen as a more peaceful version of the Aztec Empire. The Mayan religion places more emphasis on personal offerings of blood rather than mass sacrifice. Overall, the traditions of the conquered tribes are tolerated as long as they pay tribute to the emperor. The Mayans have developed an immunity to Old World diseases following an expedition of very lost Vikings landing on their shores in the 12th century.
Though Egypt remains the dominate power of Eastern Africa, there are several notable empires in Western Africa. Ghana has grown rich from the gold and salt trade; they also stand of as the center of learning and scholarship in West Africa. Ghana has recently asserted its power on the world stage by capturing Carthage's former colonies in Brazil. Meanwhile, the Ashanti Empire remains an economic power house despite its small size. A more centralized Kingdom of the Kongo is a regional power further to the south. Though all three are technically Atenist, they're willing to work with the Diamond Path nations if it benefits them.
The international situation is complex to say the least. Traditionally, Atenist and Diamond Path haven't gotten along with each other, and over the years there have been more than a few wars of religion. Having said that, many of these wars were just as much, if not more so, due to secular concerns. For example, several of the Atenist nations mounted a war to "liberate" Egypt from the followers of the Diamond Path. However, this war was just as much due to Egypt having recently bared Atenist nations from using its canal. Eventually, the war ended with the Atenist being expelled from Egypt. In more recent times the number of wars of religion has decreased dramatically, and both Atenist and Diamond Path are beginning to grow more tolerant of religious differences.
Atenist are currently experiencing a schism between those who follow the traditional strictly monotheist version and those who want reform. The reformers claim that just as rays emanate from the sun, so to do less divine beings emanate from Aten. Praying to these beings is still forbidden, but praying through them, and having them intercede to Aten, is acceptable. Critics say this is nothing more than polytheism in disguise; and polytheism is considered the worst of all crimes in Atenism. Propionates, however, say that it is a great way to reach out to polytheist for conversion.
That's everything off the top of my head. Feel free to ask questions.
My latest map. Set in an alternate 16th/17th century and among other things:
Atenism managed to last a few Pharaohs longer than it did in our world. Despite this Egypt still returned to the worship of the traditional Egyptian gods. However, Atenist are still a notable minority within Egypt and have managed to spread their religion to other nations. Speaking of Egypt, they've continued to expand southwards. The wealth of goods and minerals acquired by this conquest meant that even after Egypt's gold mines ran dry the empire was just as powerful as ever. Egypt now controls an empire stretching from the Cape to the Nile Delta; as well as a canal connecting the Meditadtianian and Red Sea.
The empire of Carthage, always a popular destination for Atenist escaping persecution in Egypt, was the first nation to convert to Atenism. Without competition from Rome, and with the Greek Empire occupied in Asia, Carthage has thrived as a trading empire. Despite some recent colonial loses to Ghana in South America, Carthage is remains fairly well respect in the international community.
The scattered Celtic tribes were united under a great warrior chieftain, known as Brennus, who formed them into a mighty empire. The Celtic Empire has adapted many new technologies from its neighbors. Most significantly, the Celts have developed a system of writing based largely off of the Greek alphabet. Missionaries from Carthage ensured that it wasn't long before the Celtic Empire converted to Atenism. Carthaginian shipbuilding expertise has allowed the Celts to establish colony along the eastern coast of North America.
The Republic of Novgorod has benefited greatly from its alliance with the Celtic Empire. As the Celts expanded eastward they were able to keep potential threats to Novgorod at a minimum, and trade between the two nations helps to supplement the republic's food supply during its harsh winters. Novgorod is renowned as a center of culture and scholarship as well as being a regional trading hub. Celtic merchants have also brought the word of Aten to the snowy republic.
Alexander the Great managed to live longer than he did in our world. He not only sired plenty of heirs to his empire, but focused on centralizing and maintaining the empire itself. The Greek Empire has gone on to expand into Central Asia and Italy, and is a major conduit in the exchange of ideas and goods between East and West. Alexander's goal of reconciling the many faiths and cultures of the empire resulted in the creation of a new religion: the Diamond Path.
The Diamond Path teaches that there is a universal divine essence which permeates all all things knows as The Truth. The Truth is unknowable in its pure form, but it makes itself more understandable via four paragons known as the Father, Mother, Son and Daughter. The four paragons were originally identified as Zeus, Cybele Mithras and Isis; however they have since been identified with all the gods and goddesses. The Diamond Path teaches that the various gods are merely mask that the four paragons wear to make themselves better understood by humanity. The Diamond Path is followed by Greece, Egypt and the Norse.
The Norse control Scandinavia and the British Isles as part of their Empire of the North. They've long since given up raiding to become the dominant trading power of the northern seas. The Norse began colonizing the New World in the 10th century, but they didn't start arriving en mass until the mid 14th century. Their largest colony is Markland, located along the St. Lawrence river valley.
Buddhism has found its way west thanks to merchants and missionaries from Bharat and Vijayanagara. Buddhist have found moderate success in Diamond Path nations due to their willingness to incorporate local deities; and are treated with suspicion by Atenist nations because of this. However, it was in the Empire of Arabia that Buddhist found the greatest success. A merchant turned conqueror, in time known as Mohammad the Great, united the tribes of Arabia around a new religion combining traditional Arabian beliefs and deities with Buddhist teachings. This new faith, known as Zensunni, has proven somewhat controversial among other Buddhist do to its somewhat violent origins.
Gwanggaeto the Great managed to live longer than he did in our world and united the Korean Peninsula. Taking advantage oft he chaos of China's Six Dynasties era, Gwanggaeto ceased the Mandate of Heaven and established the Goguryeo Dynasty. Gwanggaeto expanded into Manchuria and Japan to eliminate any potential threats to the Korean Empire. Recently, Korea has established colonies on the western coast of North America.
The Khmer and Srivijayan empires have developed into minor trading powers. Both nations are closely allied with fellow Hindu nations Bharat and Vijayanagara, and are the primary Pacific trading partners of the Mayan and Incan empires. Though both Khmer and Srivijaya currently lack colonies in the New World they have sent expeditions to scout for possible locations.
The Mayan city-stated were united into a single empire by charismatic warrior king. The Mayan Empire stretches from the Yucatan Peninsula to the central valley of Mexico. In many ways the Mayan Empire can be seen as a more peaceful version of the Aztec Empire. The Mayan religion places more emphasis on personal offerings of blood rather than mass sacrifice. Overall, the traditions of the conquered tribes are tolerated as long as they pay tribute to the emperor. The Mayans have developed an immunity to Old World diseases following an expedition of very lost Vikings landing on their shores in the 12th century.
Though Egypt remains the dominate power of Eastern Africa, there are several notable empires in Western Africa. Ghana has grown rich from the gold and salt trade; they also stand of as the center of learning and scholarship in West Africa. Ghana has recently asserted its power on the world stage by capturing Carthage's former colonies in Brazil. Meanwhile, the Ashanti Empire remains an economic power house despite its small size. A more centralized Kingdom of the Kongo is a regional power further to the south. Though all three are technically Atenist, they're willing to work with the Diamond Path nations if it benefits them.
The international situation is complex to say the least. Traditionally, Atenist and Diamond Path haven't gotten along with each other, and over the years there have been more than a few wars of religion. Having said that, many of these wars were just as much, if not more so, due to secular concerns. For example, several of the Atenist nations mounted a war to "liberate" Egypt from the followers of the Diamond Path. However, this war was just as much due to Egypt having recently bared Atenist nations from using its canal. Eventually, the war ended with the Atenist being expelled from Egypt. In more recent times the number of wars of religion has decreased dramatically, and both Atenist and Diamond Path are beginning to grow more tolerant of religious differences.
Atenist are currently experiencing a schism between those who follow the traditional strictly monotheist version and those who want reform. The reformers claim that just as rays emanate from the sun, so to do less divine beings emanate from Aten. Praying to these beings is still forbidden, but praying through them, and having them intercede to Aten, is acceptable. Critics say this is nothing more than polytheism in disguise; and polytheism is considered the worst of all crimes in Atenism. Propionates, however, say that it is a great way to reach out to polytheist for conversion.
That's everything off the top of my head. Feel free to ask questions.
Gian
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So here's a little map project on Inkscape I'm doing for a parliamentary United States that covers Canada and the Baja California peninsula (minus the Gadsden Purchase) showing all seats as of 2014.
So far, I've done the seats for Utah and Delaware and are finishing up California, Maryland, and starting North Carolina. I'm showing of course the progress for UT and CA though.
Oh yeah, and here's the maps of the states and territories of the US for reference.
So far, I've done the seats for Utah and Delaware and are finishing up California, Maryland, and starting North Carolina. I'm showing of course the progress for UT and CA though.
Oh yeah, and here's the maps of the states and territories of the US for reference.
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My guess is that the black areas of South America are some alien or eldritch forces that will soon drive the Argentians from the mainland. At which point they will be damned glad they took the Falk- Malvinas. Hope it can sustain the tens of millions of refugees.
"In other news, China and other parts of East Asia have suffered a brutal Jackson Pollock attack."
Map I did for Suleiman's "Red Sun" scenario ( https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=335169 ). The year is 2014,
there was no WWII although a brutal Japanese-Chinese struggle led to a Red China
and later a Chinese-Soviet war where the Soviets shall we say overreacted?
Are all the red dots in East Asia communists or rebels in general? For something like this it might be best to crack out those things Like Tacos and chuck in a bunch of regional colors for small scale revolts which will soon be crushed. Not that anyone would realize unless they zoomed in to examine each pixel.
Man, if the other map had Jackson Pollock, this one's south America has something downright psychedelic going on. Look at those crawling blotches of color in the darkness!
Mormons lead the world!"In other news, China and other parts of East Asia have suffered a brutal Jackson Pollock attack."
Map I did for Suleiman's "Red Sun" scenario ( https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=335169 ). The year is 2014,
there was no WWII although a brutal Japanese-Chinese struggle led to a Red China
and later a Chinese-Soviet war where the Soviets shall we say overreacted?
. . . Wait, no, different LDS...
Dunno, but it looks a tad ASB to me. How did Germany get away with annexing so much of Italy, when the POD is apparently after 1900?
Nick Griffalco
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Excellenttt.
Thank you, I'd have had it sooner, but I accidently deleted the first draft of the write up so I had to rewrite from scratch
CannedTech
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I've been eagerly waiting for this update. I already like the inclusion of Panem and what appears to be a Texan remnant. Also, what's the red in India and the rebellion-patches in Europe?
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