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  1. Franco-Prussian War: Stricter Terms for France's Capitulation?

    The Reparations demanded by Bismarck were not arbitrary figures .... they were exactly the same (per capita) as that imposed on Prussia by Napoleon after its loss at Jena-Auerstadt in October 1806. It was a case of "payback is a bitch". Following the Austrian loss in 1866 at Koenigratz King...

  2. What would be a good peace after WWI?

    Some other points of ToV Sorry, coming into this a bit late but I'd like to raise a few other points about the ToV that really shaped the feelings about it ... at least in Germany. The key item (I believe) is the contrast between 1814-5 Congress of Vienna and the ToV -- 1. Following the...

  3. What If: Franco-German reconciliation in 1871?

    As Friederich III noted ... Bismarck built a system that only he could keep in motion and on course ... The German Empire (And Weimar after 1918) never had a political system in place that rewarded rational decision making .... after the Machtergreifung (sp) in 1933, there were only ennobled...

  4. What If: Franco-German reconciliation in 1871?

    Pot calling the Kettle Black .... Ummmm lemme think .... because it reminds them so much of themselves ?!?!! Berniep2

  5. What If: Franco-German reconciliation in 1871?

    Couldn't agree more .... As "Historyfool" said ... I couldn't agree more!!... And to Kelenas' ...

  6. What If: Franco-German reconciliation in 1871?

    Deutsches Elsass The French always thought they were masters of Europe (and for a long time they were) and Nappy III was simply acting like "everyone" expected a French monarch to act. Over the centuries the Germans were castigated for their "Drang nach Osten" but the French were 'excused'...

  7. Century of Fire: The Legacy of Kaiser Heinrich (reboot)

    Franz Joseph's Bayern You mean to tell me that they aren't their own country??? Franz Joseph Strauss (CSU) always thought that was the case!!...:D Seriously, in terms of Prussia, the problem was recognized as early as January 1871 when William I mussed about losing something (of Prussia's...

  8. Century of Fire: The Legacy of Kaiser Heinrich (reboot)

    An Army with its Own Country Or... One of the carry overs from the Prussian state to the Second Reich was the "separateness" of the military (Heer). I understand the implications, especially for Bayern (even today they still think of themselves as a Land apart!) ... nevertheless, integration...

  9. Century of Fire: The Legacy of Kaiser Heinrich (reboot)

    Some Ideas I had posted this in another thread ... but its just as applicable here ... You may have already thought about and/or used some of the same ideas ..in your earlier versions. Bernie P2 Nice Thread, Some ideas Having Henry as Kaiser rather than the OTL...

  10. Groß-Deutschland v2.0

    Nice Thread, Some ideas Having Henry as Kaiser rather than the OTL egotistic, bombastic, erratic and unstable WmII, will definitely change History .... Most likely .. he would hew to Bismarck's warning to never give Russia a reason not to ally with Germany. The Re-insurance Treaty would have...

  11. What Should Be the Ideal Size of Germany?

    Yeah but give me a Euro Loan from a German Bank... I forgot to add ... everybody likes to hate the Germans but they all want a Euro Loan to tide them over ... make up your minds ... B

  12. What Should Be the Ideal Size of Germany?

    Before or after the genocide of Spring 1945?? Is this supposed to be before or after the Russians killed everybody in OstPreussen , Schlesien, and Brandenburg east of the Neisse?? Lets get real folks ... Germany to day is what is left after everyone took their piece of a prostrate nation...

  13. A Gentler Germany and a Royalist France

    Bismarck was only the Chancellor ... While Bismarck's imprint on history, especially the latter part of the 19th century, is writ large, he was only the Kaiser's Chancellor .... a 'hired hand" who served at the pleasure of his monarch ... as "Minister President" to King William of Prussia...

  14. Napoleon lll victory in the Franco-Prussian War

    Another chapter of French Agression... Well, if the French had "won" (however that might be defined) ... it would simply be another chapter of French aggression on the continent ... with or without the Corsican Dictator, or Cardinal Richelieu, the French under Nappy III seemed to continue to...

  15. WI: French press Saar Offensive

    Wanks come in all flavors ... Quite simply this is ASB..... This thread is a simple French - Polish wank based on opinions and attitudes that resulted from the Nazi criminal's actions from '39-'45. The prevailing attitudes in 1939 were different... and for good reason. Austria Voted to be...

  16. Austrian-Prussian War- different outcome

    Who was the real hero ? All of the preceding discussions do nothing more (in my mind) except serve to illustrate what a giant figure and statesman (doer of the possible, with the most gain for the least pain) the Iron Chancellor really was. Reviled for being a conservative (in a...

  17. A More Diplomatic end to the Great War...

    Google translation of the Iron Chancellor's letter In a letter (August 1870) to his ambassador in London, founded by Otto Bismarck, the German acquisition of Alsace-Lorraine intentions during the German-Prussian War. Bismarck stood still under the impression that of Napoleon III. wanted to...

  18. A More Diplomatic end to the Great War...

    Why a War in 1914 I couldn't agree more with Rast ... The reason there was a war at all has a lot to do with the ADHD red headed step child of the Hohenzollerns reigning (and unfortunately ruling) under the title of Wilhelm II. An impetuous and probably bi-polar personality who let Germany...

  19. A More Diplomatic end to the Great War...

    Elsas und Lothringen were not French - ever I must protest the constant drumbeat that the "return" of A-L (to use the English names) was some sort of foregone conclusion. The reason the French occupied and "owned" this German speaking province was that it was Richelieu's piece of flesh from...

  20. How large can Germany get?

    Bulls Run ... For info -- The actual text reads- "Von der Maas bis an die Memel, von der Etsch bis an den Belt" The Maas (Meuse in French) was a historical boundary of the HRE before the French Cardinal Richelieu took much of Elsas and Lothrigen as his pound of flesh for help in the 30 Years...
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