Slightly better but not by much. I don't think voters care much for the VP pick as they do nowadays. Quayle might've been the exception back in the day given his gaffes like his debate with Bentsen in '88 and the time he misspelled "potatoe" in '91. I don't think too many people had their minds changed by Bush's pick of Quayle but any who did IOTL would vote for Bush. Again, it'd probably be a miniscule increase for Bush but an increase nonetheless.
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Makes perfect sense to me. I wonder how the ticket would have done in New York State though. With Jack Kemp being from New York and being a US Representative and with George H. W. Bush only losing the state by a narrow margin of 4.10%, could it be possible for the Empire State to vote for the GOP one final time?
Probably, plus, Kemp was relatively smart and beloved by conservatives, so that might give Bush better credentials come '92 (perhaps even using Kemp to keep people like Gingrich on his side)
Potentially but 4.1% of the vote in New York in 1988 was 266 thousand votes. Now Washington State OTOH was decided by 1.59%, just under 30 thousand votes, so I could see that state flipping and maybe Wisconsin too (3.61% or 79 thousand votes). 266 thousand is pushing it but I'd put it in maybe territory.
Wait! Newt Gingrich was against George H. W. Bush? I didn't know that. You learn something new everyday I guess.
With what I think your saying is that Jack Kemp was smarter than Dan Quayle, especially with the whole "potatoe" thing. I will agree with you that a Bush-Kemp ticket would probably do better in 1992, but the thicket would probably still lose to Bill Clinton.
Also, given that Kemp in OTL was Bob Dole's running mate in the 1996 election, I assume that Dole would probably have a different running mate.
True, Washington and Wisconsin were closer than New York. However, I assume with different running mates and depending on the region, it could affect votes.
The two had bad blood after a negotiation on tax hikes in 1990 (IIRC) went awry, while he supported him for reelection, the two never got along together, apparently not even Bush Jr. met with him, at least that's how he put it in his book "March to Majority," and I haven't bothered to read more into it
He'd probably go with Connie Mack III or John McCain. If he went with the latter then that could better or worsen McCain's chances in 2000. Either McCain would become the heir apparent for the GOP instead of Dubya or it'd be a situation similar to the recurring theme in AH wherein JFK gets the VP nomination in 1956 only to lose in a landslide ending his political career.
There's also a decent chance former Vice President Kemp could be a legitimate presidential candidate in 1996 in a way that Quayle simply couldn't have been. You might butterfly Dole ever getting the nomination entirely.
somewhere on wikipedia but i cant find where now
If it weren't for the red Dakotas, I'd have assumed this was a color-flipped 2000s map.
Wow, Bush must've really hated McCain and Richardson that he returned Arizona and New Mexico into territories
Yeah... and the territories.
This would be an interesting alt-history scenario, come to think of it.
My new series that I've spent a month on spans from 1980 to the present day, and unfortunately there isn't a chance I could censor it as the main character is a current political figure and it's just... too much.
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(Would it be too cheeky of me to suggest that if you like the series that you however like this post instead?)
As such my new series can be found here, and if you have a comment please direct it there.
(Would it be too cheeky of me to suggest that if you like the series that you however like this post instead?)
Kemp did seem more presidential than Quayle IMHO.
Thanks for the answers.
Is there an index of any other posts from this TL?
How did Bush end up in the Confederacy ITTL when he was born in New Haven?
there's none on ah.com, but its sorted in my slp graphics thread;
He moved to Texas in order to take advantage of a loophole in their laws, rose up the ranks of the Whigs to take over as governor, and the rest is history