Why would France be purple? It must always be the Blue Blob.
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Why would France be purple? It must always be the Blue Blob.
I fail to see why that's an argument, that maps uses a 6 colour scheme so I'm pretty sure the selection of purple for France and blue for Germany was basically random so to make sure no country bordered another of the same colour.
You're right, Nanwe. But some clichés got fulfilled anyway. Green Russia, Pink Britain, Purple France, Blue Germany and Orange Netherlands. And that yellow denoting Italy could well come from the Papal States. The "unfitting" colors come from Putzger, a beacon of German school atlases ever since. Though I retained "our" blue for France in my MotF entry. Here I just took the purple as an example.
Italy is an interesting case. If I didn't see it in brown in atlases (which I did on occasion) it's either green or light yellow.
Italy is an interesting case. If I didn't see it in brown in atlases (which I did on occasion) it's either green or light yellow.
This is ANOTHER work in progress map set in an early 1st century AD where Rome was shattered in the Samnite/Pyrrhic War and majority of the regions that Rome would of conquered started to form developed nation states. I used the TACOs colour scheme also but I may convert it to custom colouring.
(Also I added the key for own convience!)
(Also I added the key for own convience!)
What about South and North Netherlands? Or will "South netherlands" be Belgium, maybe?
However, I do predict Reds on the Rhine anyway. If not further west...
However, I do predict Reds on the Rhine anyway. If not further west...
The aftermath of the German Napoleon:
The world of 1st of January 1946
It has been over 18 months since the Axis capitulated in Europe, and millions of bodies have been laid in that foundation. The map of Europe has been changed forever, as parts of the meetings in Stockholm and Madrid. A bizarre situation has arisen in that the zones of occupation have not been perfectly represented in this case, leading to what Churchill has deemed ‘the Red Pincer’ around Europe. Countries that only recently unified are once again divided, both Germany and Italy are once again split across northern and southern lines. Yet even nations that have lasted much longer, such as Spain and the Netherlands have faced this fate as well. In Spain, a socialist government rules, but one which is open to the west, leading to it becoming part of a neutral group, retreating into isolationism after over 8 years of conflict, though one day hoping to reclaim its lost territories. The rest of Western Europe, consisting of the United Kingdom, France, the Benelux Union (Belgium, Luxembourg and what remained of the Netherlands), Bavaria, Portugal, Galicia, Euskadi, Catalonia and South Italy have formed the European Defence Force, formed to combat the threat of communism on a global scale. To this, they with the assistance of the USA have formed powerful anti-Communist nations such as Greater Indonesia, Abyssinia and the Indochinese Federation as buffers between themselves and the Red Pincer. Europe suffered the brisk of the fighting during the war, and so it is the one who once again must stave off another kind of enemy.
On the other side of the Red Pincer lies the organisation known as the People’s Pact. The USSR came on top of the Germans during the war due to a combination of factors. The invasion of Spain provoked Stalin into thinking that Hitler could not be trusted-if Hitler had attacked another socialist nation, why couldn’t he attack another? Also, the intensified mobilisation allowed his troops to be more effectively governed once war broke out, along with more industrialisation. The delays even allowed more factories to be built and even allowed them to annex Tanu Tuva and Xinjiang. While they lost over 11 million lives in the war, they have gained vast amounts of territory in Eastern Europe, though maintaining this territory could be stressful. They are also disappointed in not obtaining all of Germany, including Luxembourg and Alsace Lorraine, though this was due to negotiations during the conference at Madrid, to which Stalin grudgingly accepted. With the EDF to the west and the Balkan League to the South, their position is precarious, and Stalin is aware that war could come to him if he makes the wrong move.
In Asia, things didn’t go as smoothly for either side. With Germany and Italy out of the way, it allowed the allies to continue their work in Japan, which has cost them dearly as they were never able to capture scientists necessary for the Manhattan project, which still hasn’t been completed yet. Thus, the Americans and British were forced to launch an invasion of Japan, while the Soviet Union in August 1944 launched a rapid attack on Manchuria, Korea and Haikou, to try and gain what it could out of the conflict. Japan took a long time to pacify, but it has succeeded now, as the Fanatic coup failed and the Emperor entered an issue of surrender for the Japanese people. Even so, some fanatical warlords rose up to try and convince him otherwise, though these were crushed by the occupation. Japan is now divided across the velvet curtain between a north and South. The South remains a monarchy, though with a more active role of the emperor as compromise. The North on the other hand has fallen under the hands of a ruthless dictatorship that even Stalin is unsure of at the moment. How this will fair in future is debatable.
These regions are not the only places where conflict could arise though. In the Iberian Peninsula, no-one is sure when Spain will make its way at unifying Iberia, or how a collapse of Indonesia would be. Rumours have even arisen of Far Right forces amassing in Brazil, preparing to change the country by liberating it from American imperialism and from the dangers of communism.
The world of 1st of January 1946
It has been over 18 months since the Axis capitulated in Europe, and millions of bodies have been laid in that foundation. The map of Europe has been changed forever, as parts of the meetings in Stockholm and Madrid. A bizarre situation has arisen in that the zones of occupation have not been perfectly represented in this case, leading to what Churchill has deemed ‘the Red Pincer’ around Europe. Countries that only recently unified are once again divided, both Germany and Italy are once again split across northern and southern lines. Yet even nations that have lasted much longer, such as Spain and the Netherlands have faced this fate as well. In Spain, a socialist government rules, but one which is open to the west, leading to it becoming part of a neutral group, retreating into isolationism after over 8 years of conflict, though one day hoping to reclaim its lost territories. The rest of Western Europe, consisting of the United Kingdom, France, the Benelux Union (Belgium, Luxembourg and what remained of the Netherlands), Bavaria, Portugal, Galicia, Euskadi, Catalonia and South Italy have formed the European Defence Force, formed to combat the threat of communism on a global scale. To this, they with the assistance of the USA have formed powerful anti-Communist nations such as Greater Indonesia, Abyssinia and the Indochinese Federation as buffers between themselves and the Red Pincer. Europe suffered the brisk of the fighting during the war, and so it is the one who once again must stave off another kind of enemy.
On the other side of the Red Pincer lies the organisation known as the People’s Pact. The USSR came on top of the Germans during the war due to a combination of factors. The invasion of Spain provoked Stalin into thinking that Hitler could not be trusted-if Hitler had attacked another socialist nation, why couldn’t he attack another? Also, the intensified mobilisation allowed his troops to be more effectively governed once war broke out, along with more industrialisation. The delays even allowed more factories to be built and even allowed them to annex Tanu Tuva and Xinjiang. While they lost over 11 million lives in the war, they have gained vast amounts of territory in Eastern Europe, though maintaining this territory could be stressful. They are also disappointed in not obtaining all of Germany, including Luxembourg and Alsace Lorraine, though this was due to negotiations during the conference at Madrid, to which Stalin grudgingly accepted. With the EDF to the west and the Balkan League to the South, their position is precarious, and Stalin is aware that war could come to him if he makes the wrong move.
In Asia, things didn’t go as smoothly for either side. With Germany and Italy out of the way, it allowed the allies to continue their work in Japan, which has cost them dearly as they were never able to capture scientists necessary for the Manhattan project, which still hasn’t been completed yet. Thus, the Americans and British were forced to launch an invasion of Japan, while the Soviet Union in August 1944 launched a rapid attack on Manchuria, Korea and Haikou, to try and gain what it could out of the conflict. Japan took a long time to pacify, but it has succeeded now, as the Fanatic coup failed and the Emperor entered an issue of surrender for the Japanese people. Even so, some fanatical warlords rose up to try and convince him otherwise, though these were crushed by the occupation. Japan is now divided across the velvet curtain between a north and South. The South remains a monarchy, though with a more active role of the emperor as compromise. The North on the other hand has fallen under the hands of a ruthless dictatorship that even Stalin is unsure of at the moment. How this will fair in future is debatable.
These regions are not the only places where conflict could arise though. In the Iberian Peninsula, no-one is sure when Spain will make its way at unifying Iberia, or how a collapse of Indonesia would be. Rumours have even arisen of Far Right forces amassing in Brazil, preparing to change the country by liberating it from American imperialism and from the dangers of communism.
The aftermath of the German Napoleon:
The world of 1st of January 1946
It has been over 18 months since the Axis capitulated in Europe, and millions of bodies have been laid in that foundation. The map of Europe has been changed forever, as parts of the meetings in Stockholm and Madrid. A bizarre situation has arisen in that the zones of occupation have not been perfectly represented in this case, leading to what Churchill has deemed ‘the Red Pincer’ around Europe. Countries that only recently unified are once again divided, both Germany and Italy are once again split across northern and southern lines. Yet even nations that have lasted much longer, such as Spain and the Netherlands have faced this fate as well. In Spain, a socialist government rules, but one which is open to the west, leading to it becoming part of a neutral group, retreating into isolationism after over 8 years of conflict, though one day hoping to reclaim its lost territories. The rest of Western Europe, consisting of the United Kingdom, France, the Benelux Union (Belgium, Luxembourg and what remained of the Netherlands), Bavaria, Portugal, Galicia, Euskadi, Catalonia and South Italy have formed the European Defence Force, formed to combat the threat of communism on a global scale. To this, they with the assistance of the USA have formed powerful anti-Communist nations such as Greater Indonesia, Abyssinia and the Indochinese Federation as buffers between themselves and the Red Pincer. Europe suffered the brisk of the fighting during the war, and so it is the one who once again must stave off another kind of enemy.
On the other side of the Red Pincer lies the organisation known as the People’s Pact. The USSR came on top of the Germans during the war due to a combination of factors. The invasion of Spain provoked Stalin into thinking that Hitler could not be trusted-if Hitler had attacked another socialist nation, why couldn’t he attack another? Also, the intensified mobilisation allowed his troops to be more effectively governed once war broke out, along with more industrialisation. The delays even allowed more factories to be built and even allowed them to annex Tanu Tuva and Xinjiang. While they lost over 11 million lives in the war, they have gained vast amounts of territory in Eastern Europe, though maintaining this territory could be stressful. They are also disappointed in not obtaining all of Germany, including Luxembourg and Alsace Lorraine, though this was due to negotiations during the conference at Madrid, to which Stalin grudgingly accepted. With the EDF to the west and the Balkan League to the South, their position is precarious, and Stalin is aware that war could come to him if he makes the wrong move.
In Asia, things didn’t go as smoothly for either side. With Germany and Italy out of the way, it allowed the allies to continue their work in Japan, which has cost them dearly as they were never able to capture scientists necessary for the Manhattan project, which still hasn’t been completed yet. Thus, the Americans and British were forced to launch an invasion of Japan, while the Soviet Union in August 1944 launched a rapid attack on Manchuria, Korea and Haikou, to try and gain what it could out of the conflict. Japan took a long time to pacify, but it has succeeded now, as the Fanatic coup failed and the Emperor entered an issue of surrender for the Japanese people. Even so, some fanatical warlords rose up to try and convince him otherwise, though these were crushed by the occupation. Japan is now divided across the velvet curtain between a north and South. The South remains a monarchy, though with a more active role of the emperor as compromise. The North on the other hand has fallen under the hands of a ruthless dictatorship that even Stalin is unsure of at the moment. How this will fair in future is debatable.
These regions are not the only places where conflict could arise though. In the Iberian Peninsula, no-one is sure when Spain will make its way at unifying Iberia, or how a collapse of Indonesia would be. Rumours have even arisen of Far Right forces amassing in Brazil, preparing to change the country by liberating it from American imperialism and from the dangers of communism.
Any Soviet invasion of Japan is unfeasible - they lack the realistic minimum naval power in the pacific to do it, no matter how much they industrialize - barring ASB.
Otherwise, the map and story are pretty good.
Here's a map I'm working on. The Unholy Roman Mess is not going down without a fight.
The completed map of Britain's provincial governments in True North.
2014: Present Day
Prime Minister: Yvette Cooper (Social Democratic majority)
Northern Ireland: Mike Nesbitt (Unionist-Progressive coalition)
Scotland: Gordon Brown (Social Democratic majority)
Malta: Joseph Muscat (Labour majority)
Gibraltar: Latifa Akherbach (Socialist Labour-Liberal coalition)
Wales: Carwyn Jones (Social Democratic minority)
Lancashire: Graham Jones (Social Democratic-Green coalition)
Northumbria: Stephen Hepburn (Social Democratic-Northumbria First Grand Coalition)
Wessex: Nick Harvey (Liberal-Social Democratic coalition)
Yorkshire: David Blunkett (Social Democratic majority)
Channel Islands: Ian Gorst (Conservative-Independent Conservative coalition)
Singapore: Low Thia Khiang (Labour Front majority)
Seychelles: Ralph Volcere (New Democratic majority)
Anglia: Chloe Smith (National Liberal majority)
Essex: Bernard Jenkin (National Conservative-Citizens' Movement coalition)
Kent: Gordon Henderson (National Liberal minority with s&c from Citizens' Movement and English Democrats)
Sussex: Mike Weatherley (Conservative-Liberal-Citizen's Movement coalition)
Hong Kong: Lee Cheuk-yan (Social Democratic-Democratic-People's-Socialist coalition)
Vannin: Bernard Moffatt (Mec Vannin-Independent Nationalist coalition)
Mercia: David Wright (Social Democratic-Green coalition with s&c from Health Concern)
Cornwall: Dick Cole (Mebyon Kernow majority)
London: Sadiq Khan (London Alliance-Labour coalition)
21 Provinces
10 SDP/Other Left
07 NLP/Other Right
03 Regionalist
01 Liberal
2014: Present Day
Prime Minister: Yvette Cooper (Social Democratic majority)
Northern Ireland: Mike Nesbitt (Unionist-Progressive coalition)
Scotland: Gordon Brown (Social Democratic majority)
Malta: Joseph Muscat (Labour majority)
Gibraltar: Latifa Akherbach (Socialist Labour-Liberal coalition)
Wales: Carwyn Jones (Social Democratic minority)
Lancashire: Graham Jones (Social Democratic-Green coalition)
Northumbria: Stephen Hepburn (Social Democratic-Northumbria First Grand Coalition)
Wessex: Nick Harvey (Liberal-Social Democratic coalition)
Yorkshire: David Blunkett (Social Democratic majority)
Channel Islands: Ian Gorst (Conservative-Independent Conservative coalition)
Singapore: Low Thia Khiang (Labour Front majority)
Seychelles: Ralph Volcere (New Democratic majority)
Anglia: Chloe Smith (National Liberal majority)
Essex: Bernard Jenkin (National Conservative-Citizens' Movement coalition)
Kent: Gordon Henderson (National Liberal minority with s&c from Citizens' Movement and English Democrats)
Sussex: Mike Weatherley (Conservative-Liberal-Citizen's Movement coalition)
Hong Kong: Lee Cheuk-yan (Social Democratic-Democratic-People's-Socialist coalition)
Vannin: Bernard Moffatt (Mec Vannin-Independent Nationalist coalition)
Mercia: David Wright (Social Democratic-Green coalition with s&c from Health Concern)
Cornwall: Dick Cole (Mebyon Kernow majority)
London: Sadiq Khan (London Alliance-Labour coalition)
21 Provinces
10 SDP/Other Left
07 NLP/Other Right
03 Regionalist
01 Liberal
They could likely nab Hokkaido if they're willing to expend the resources but beyond that the allies would just about have to invite them to occupy the north for any lasting "North Japan" to be possible. Though I do enjoy the prospect of a "Japanese War" replacing the OTL Korean one.
Apparently there were plans in place for a division of Japan in occupation zones along similar lines to Austria and Germany, with the addition of Nationalist China as an occupying power, but they were never put into place. If Roosevelt had survived to the end of the war, or someone similarly interesting in getting along with the Soviets had replaced him, then it may still have gone into effect.
I call it the smaller nations wank. EG bigger Canada, Ottoman Empire, Bavaria, Portugal, República de California, and China 
I reality it's the semi-conceptual map of another TL idea of mine called '1812 Overture' revolving around a decisive British victory in the war of 1812 and then spiraling out from there.
This is a mock up of the world come 1911 or so just before the TL would end. I figured it would be a fitting place to stop. Some of it is serious speculation, other bits some mild fancy which theoretically could take place.
I reality it's the semi-conceptual map of another TL idea of mine called '1812 Overture' revolving around a decisive British victory in the war of 1812 and then spiraling out from there.
This is a mock up of the world come 1911 or so just before the TL would end. I figured it would be a fitting place to stop. Some of it is serious speculation, other bits some mild fancy which theoretically could take place.
OTL the proposed Soviet Occupation Zone consisted of territory north of a straight line between (and including) the cities of Kushiro and Rumoi. This was barring any continued Japanese resistance which would entail a continued Soviet advance further south.
References:
http://books.google.com/books?id=iP...8#v=onepage&q=hokkaido soviet kushiro&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Xj...#v=onepage&q=soviet northern hokkaido&f=false
Interesting that those books also discuss zones of occupation in the Japanese-held territories of China, implying that the decision to return those areas to Chinese rule hadn't been made yet. They also note that even in the pursuit of a zone of occupation in Japan, Stalin was not at all bothered by the division of Korea, so there's the potential for a scenario which has the DPRK and ROK as well as a divided Japan.
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