Windsor is the most obvious it's the premier Royal Palace and the one most able to be turned into a name. Stuart has too many bad connotations and they can't claim descent from any of the previous Royal families.
Aracnid
Why would they use Stuart? The new consort is Scottish but I don't see any link to the Stuart dynasty in the wiki link.
If their feeling particularly nationalistic someone might suggest Lyon, possibly even Anglicised to Lion. Alternatively Windsor might be an option as you suggest.
Steve
I'm not sure why the dynastic name isn't going to be "Lyon-Bowes" here. That's the way it has always worked - the renaming to "Windsor" OTL was a fluke of politics, not an indicator of a trend.
I was having a brainfart, forgot who she had married and was thinking Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
So Lyon-Bowes is a definite dynastic likelihood if the union results in an inheritor of the crown.
Interesting population number, what is your thought there?
Actually, a large number of small farmers in the DSA are black, whether in the old South or in the West. Most whites in the DSA are not hardscrabble farmers, instead going into other trades or ranching (and guess who most of the ranch hands are). I think what you are underestimating is the fact of how many blacks have gone into small farming. And also the fact that the DSA no matter what else is and will remain as having a large black population, but with less cultural barriers to work they are showing up in all sorts of roles.
Yes and no - whites in the DSA like owning land, but not working the land (except for the lower classes). So you will see more of the freeholds in the West in black hands. The ranches, the large spreads, on the other hand, will be in the hands of whites.
Now now, let's be nice! Again, you took a highly romanticized novel about one plantation and extrapolated that to an entire nation, with all the numbers in fact derived by you. You are right in claiming the numbers as you show are ASB - but you, my friend, provided those numbers, not I.
On the other hand, I am very flattered that you put all that time and effort into thinking about the logistics of this timeline. Based on the responses I have given you in return, what do you think are more realistic numbers to represent these trends in demographics in the DSA?
Actually, this number is a bit high. About 10% will remain simple field hands, lacking the initiative to even share-crop. There's probably also about 10% who will stay on plantations but take up a variety of roles, such as overseers, blacksmithing, drivers for the wagons and/or barges for cotton, and of course servants for the big house. These will stay on the plantation but for room, board, and a wage rather than a crop.
Now then, you've got split those who are renting land to farm as opposed to those who are sharecropping. I would lump them together - so I would say overall you still have 60%, maybe more, working land owned by whites, but with differinig relations.
At the end of the day Cairo is closer to the border and is at the nexus of bigger an important rivers.
Well in OTL Cairo had some pretty horrific race riots and a very bad Civil Rights era which pretty much killed it. Butterflying that away would be pretty easy.
The Western World, from British Patagonia to Gitchigumee, from Avalon to Germany, had enjoyed a generation of essentially unbroken period of growth, prosperity, and advancement from after the end of the Liberal War around 1855, to the beginning of the 1880s. The great liberal nations of the world; the Americans, the Mexicans, the Grenadans, the South Americans, the British, the French, the Germans, even the nations of the Hispanic and Italic peninsulas, had enjoyed unrestricted growth. The more eastern and oriental powers had done nearly as well. Many of these nations had embarked on ambitious building projects, creating the great canals, bridges, railroads, and artworks of the second half of the 19th century. This time would later be called the Era of Grand Design.
The Grand Design came crashing down in the Panic of 1881. It started in the banking houses of Germany, but quickly spread to Paris, London, New York, all the great centers of trade. Bank runs were rife, and many businesses collapsed in the puncturing of the massive speculative bubble that had formed over the past 25 years. Whole governments were brought to the verge of bankruptcy by the financial crisis. Particularly hard hit was Mexico, which had already struggled with the burden of overbuilding of canals across the nation. The nations of the east, Prussia-Poland, Austria-Hungary, Russia, were less impacted, perhaps because they had not risen so high, or some suggested that it was their embrasure of Korsgaardianism which allowed them to weather the economic typhoon better than their western counterparts. However, it would be a long, long time for all the Americas and European nations before they reached the same level of affluence that they had enjoyed in the 1870s.
The Grand Design came crashing down in the Panic of 1881. It started in the banking houses of Germany, but quickly spread to Paris, London, New York, all the great centers of trade. Bank runs were rife, and many businesses collapsed in the puncturing of the massive speculative bubble that had formed over the past 25 years. Whole governments were brought to the verge of bankruptcy by the financial crisis. Particularly hard hit was Mexico, which had already struggled with the burden of overbuilding of canals across the nation. The nations of the east, Prussia-Poland, Austria-Hungary, Russia, were less impacted, perhaps because they had not risen so high, or some suggested that it was their embrasure of Korsgaardianism which allowed them to weather the economic typhoon better than their western counterparts. However, it would be a long, long time for all the Americas and European nations before they reached the same level of affluence that they had enjoyed in the 1870s.
Interesting.
Admittedly, though, the pelican looks...odd...on this flag. I cannot place my finger on it. I like it, but it looks a bit off, for some reason.
Honestly, if you want to try and break it into traditional politics, liberal and conservative may not be the best way to describe it.
White Gold made me think - what are the possibilities of some sort of anthology of DSA related stories once this TL comes to a close? I's certainly buy/support/contribute to one if there was plans for one
Me Like.
BTW, what's going on in Mexico and South America ITTL?
I love your continued use of rivers to create states with incredibly complex-but-logical borders. What would the population of those states be in 1880? I'd think they both barely met the requirement and won't grow much over the next century...
OTL South plus Anglo-Canadians plus rounding.
That is odd, a while ago I read this book on Anglo pioneers in the USA, Canada, Australia, SA and NZ and the Protestant work ethic of settling the land and "earning through labour" earthly and divine bounty was very much a common thread.
While the white Plantocracy of the Old South might prefer to have their land worked by Blacks
(and what about the hardscrabble, white Scots-Irish of the Appalachians?)
many of the British settlers especially in the West would want single family farms.
More importantly its a theme given weight by a variety of laws and land acts in all of the British settlers colonies.
A key purposes of the Australian Land Acts was to switch from large scale ranches owned by whites but employing large numbers of Aboriginal stockmen to self sufficient family farms, and it was driven both by local pressure from recent immigrants and Australian born, but also but pressure from London to make the colony more attractive to Britons thinking about emigrating so they stayed within the Empire and didn't go to the USA. I strongly suspect that in those areas where the quality of land is good enough there will be similar successful pressure for provision of 240 acre freehold land plots to be given/sold and bargain rates to appropriate (i.e. primarily White British descent) families.
I'm sorry if I can over as overly antagonistic,
this is one of the best TL's on the board
and as work is kicking my arse at the moment my writing has stopped leaving my creative juices nowhere else to flow.
Anyway having recently been doing demographic modelling it was on my mind. As for my numbers I'm the first to admit they were mine not yours and to be honest I was hoping I would spur you to say something along the lines of "this plantation is atypical and the actual numbers are much lower."
No argument, my use of language was sloppy, by "share-cropping" I meant exactly the range you describe here.