I'll have to disagree on one thing; less TV & PC gaming won't stop the literacy decline. In fact, if anything, it may actually speed it up just a little. Also, I don't see regular schooling returning for many years in G.B. Some of the more enlightened parts of the U.S., perhaps within a decade. But not in Britain, or anywhere else in Europe, for that matter.
On literacy, I should have marked the comment with a "tongue-in-cheek" smiley. However, in this timeline, if you have a little leisure and seek for distraction, books will be your primary source for quite some time.
My impression of this timeline so far is that the US and the UK are similarly hard hit, if the US has not been hit harder.
Again, this timeline doesn’t allow you to
not differentiate between the different parts of Europe. Apparently, the UK is significantly better off than most parts of Europe, except maybe Sweden, Switzerland and some regions in France and Spain.
I am also not sure what you mean with "more enlightened parts of the US". If there is such a division, those urban parts will be the more heavily nuked parts. But, I agree that lightly hit US states might (autonomously) fare “rather well”, similar to the UK in this timeline.
If you regard regular schooling as 12 years of all-day-schooling followed by a master-degree in the arts, you are of course right. If you regard it as a few years of elementary school, maybe in the evenings, to prohibit a lack of basic understanding of the world.
There will be (elderly?) people who provide this schooling once the immediate “survival phase” is over, and there will be parents who kick their kids’ backsides (and their own) to get them there. Also, again, if a nation/region/tribe will try not to fall back several centuries, but rather less than one (I agree with another poster that mid-term recovery in the UK will something like a 1910s-30s standard of living), it will have to provide schooling still. I am quite sure that already in the 1980s it was known that children learn easier than adults. If you miss to learn reading and writing when young, it will prove rather hard to learn it later on when times are easier.
I'd say that a lot of people would think that the war was divine punishment for human arrogance and/or a test, and thus become more devout and form strong spiritual communities. These communities, since they work on a more emotional level than bureaucracies, would probably go a long way to support a wounded population and help them recover psychologically. Atheism can't really do that, although depending on the beliefs of the local leaders you could have regions of low religiousness that might look quite Soviet in the way they try to pull themselves together and rebuild society. Of course, after some time as the religious communities get larger and more powerful they will evolve into something that isn't about spiritual solidarity so much as plain and simple power over the masses.
I think that ruling via religion is passé. Maybe it can occur in some isolated areas which were really thrown back. That does
not mean that there will not be a religious revival. Christian charity will be very important and the churches will have the opportunity to prove their worth to a lot of people, I absolutely agree in that part. This will gain them respect. But it will not turn
everybody into a regular churchgoer nor into a firm believer of God. Again, there is not such an easy turning back into the Early Middle Ages, at least not in places where mid-term-recovery is possible.
Earlier on, someone mentioned football. I had been thinking about that myself. Sports are a distraction and part of British identity, and, to a certain degree, healthy. I am sure that authorities will not suppress, but rather (after the initial survival phase) encourage its recovery. It will be amateur sports, though. And there won’t be a “league” for some time. But my guess is, still, that the government will encourage county cups whose winners will fight each other in a few regional tournaments until the last four teams do the semi-final and finals in Portsmouth. Even in decades, everybody will remember how they gathered around the radios to listen to the commentary on the 1986 cup final.
Generally, concerning the often quoted toil of agricultural work and reconstruction: there is less to do in agriculture during the (long?) winter – with its different problems. And concerning reconstruction: the survivors don’t have to rebuild Britain for 55 million inhabitants but for – I am not sure, has a number been given so far? – 30? 25? 15million? And where people survived long-term, structures are mostly intact.
Which brings me to London. In the longer run, London will be re-constructed. Like Dresden, like Warszaw, like Gdansk….like Münster, Würzburg, Tokyo. It will be the capital again one day. Like Berlin. But- it won’t be stretch much further than what you find on the map on the backside when you buy a London tourist guide. London at least has the potential to become a city of a million again someday in the 21st century due to its “charisma”.
I doubt that all destroyed cities will survive in name. In some cases, surviving suburbs might pick up the name and a new city centre relocated there (the 95%-destroyed city of Münster seriously considered a similar concept after 1945), but the new cities will be far smaller than the pre-war ones, simply because too many inhabitants have died. And those who survived in smaller cities will have little inclination to fill up, e.g., New Birmingham. The exception might be some cities which are built directly on coal which will create jobs in the post-war era while commuting would still be hard to afford.
Regarding Germany while not every place would end up targeted,the numbers would have been so high that it would make little to no importance.Alongside nuking the troops at the front there would be nuking of any troops away from the front lines,and once things really get out of hand any other targets with vague military importance:civilian airfields,administrative centers,industrial targets,main bridges canals.[...] So while a few german cities of less than 100000 would still be around they would end up devastated in the long term due to famine,disease or fallout.
Yes, a field day for archaeologists. Ghost cities whose inhabitants fled or died after the exchange. Someone mentioned Landhut? I checked…regional seat of government and a BMW-factory? Street- and railway hub behind the front? Garrison of Bundeswehr Panzerbrigade 24? Looks not so good, I am afraid.
Münster, where I lived in ’83, would be so multi-targeted (just as during WW2) due to its administrative function PLUS a multitude of British and German garrisons that it is rather boring to speculate about it. Dorsten, where I live now, might be more interesting. While not by itself an interesting target, the MUNA ammunition dump (I am not sure whether British, German or shared at this point of time) to the North, the CWH chemical industries complex in Marl to the East, the refineries in the North of Gelsenkirchen and one of the largest power-plants in Germany, Scholven, both to the South, all make interesting targets each about 3-8 miles away from the city centre. That should do it.
Democracy, I am talking here about the United Kingdom, will probably be reinstated in the mid-term. Although, it probably shall look a lot different from before. A few thoughts: I am not sure if Macragge has told us about it, but there should be someone who can act as King or Queen. Whoever tries to control Britain will have to try doing that, if only as figurehead for a few banal semantical, but maybe not that unimportant reasons called ROYAL Army, ROYAL Navy, ROYAL Air Force…HER MAJESTY’S Government etc. pp. The monarch has no power, but still a great value as a figurehead AND can turn the head of administration into the Prime Minister! Second, I think that neither the Royal inheriting the crown nor a majority of the military resp. administrative staff running surviving Britain are intent to stick to emergency rule longer than necessary. Years maybe…but decades? Suggesting that emergency rule would be upheld infinitely, implies that this is the secret wish of 1980s British military and bureaucracy.
Besides, to add legitimacy to any sort of administration, I see a high probability that a rump parliament will be established as soon as possible, even if only to nod at decisions taken elsewhere (à la “Jericho”’s ASA-Congress…or, actually, most Western Parliaments ;-)?). For the foreseeable future, there will be a “National Coalition” anyways. The longer I think of it, the way I know British sentiment, anybody trying to rule post-war Britain will do well to make it as much as possible a re-enactment of 1940-45. Though the actual situation is of course far worse, there will be plenty of propaganda alluding to exactly the myth of that historical situation “and how all turned out well in the end”. Final side-thought, and I hope to hear a little from our Brits on this; I completely forgot the House of Lords. I have no clue how much influence they had left by that time, but may it be that its role might be a bit more pronounced afterwards, or rather of the hereditary seats? And another idea… might we see a return of rotten boroughs? In the form of nuked boroughs? ;-) Loads of possibilities to manipulate…
But I have to thank to whoever pointed out that war brings out not only the worst, but sometimes also the best in people. It is nuclear war, yes, but not a zombie virus which turns every survivor into a Nazi-asshole.
Concerning the survival of knowledge. I think that there cannot be a comparison to the Dark Ages. In the 1980s, every small town in the Western world should bring up enough books in libraries, offices, businesses and private households to keep things running. And academics and engineers live and work everywhere. But I agree that there will be little high-end-research. If there is research, it will rather go into the direction of making things easier to maintain and more economic. So, the world will be stuck on 1980s tech level for quite some time.
By the way, Dunois. I cannot be thankful enough for your analysis. Even though it goes a bit to the “least-bad”-side, there are a lot of interesting information and good thoughts on it. I also started to think about the North-Sea-oil and the probability to link it to a refinery again. I also wonder if it would be an apt strategy to assess whether it is possible anywhere (generally, Britain is rather benefitted with coal and oil compared to other places in Europe) to establish a hub where coal, petrol, food and energy is available on a rather good level. From this relative island of stability, efforts can more easily spread out to more and more regions?
Concerning currency. I suggest, that the black market will come up with a replacement quickly. Post-war Germany was famous for the cigarette currency.
BTW, someone mentioned a “re-introduction of private ownership” earlier on. So Great Britain turns Khmer Rouge? Come on. Even if the military or other authorities force you to hand over possessions, they are still yours. They were just taken away from you. You may bet that you even get handed a worthless piece of paper in most cases.