Battlefield Iraq was Battlefield 2 IOTL.In Iwanh TL
There's a Battlefield game called:
Battlefield: Iraq
A sequel of OTL Battlefield: Vietnam
Battlefield Iraq was Battlefield 2 IOTL.In Iwanh TL
There's a Battlefield game called:
Battlefield: Iraq
A sequel of OTL Battlefield: Vietnam
so sonic heroes would be more sonic adventure 2.5 and tails adventure is essentially sonic adventure 3 meets naruto with the meterex plot (HELL YES! this is my dream sonic game! that and a dreamcast era sonic xtreme reboot in the style of adventure 1 with the plot and characters of the archie comics are what i want to see in a sonic game),In Iwanh's no 9/11 timeline a standalone sequel to Tails Adventure was released for all 3 sixth gen consoles in 2005 but he didn't go to deep into it. But I can fill in the gaps in this one. ITTL dark and edgy stories and anti hero characters didn't really catch on leading to Shadow The Hedgehog being a one and done character which would change the Sonic franchise during the Six Gen era significantly. Sonic Heroes would be a much different game. The initial plan for the playable teams didn't even have Shadow and Rouge would of ended up with Team Rose.
Sonic X however wouldn't really change much but it would end with Sonic and friends leaving earth but the 3rd season where they meet an alien girl named Cosmo and go into space never aired instead the concepts from the unaired third season of Sonic X were instead reused like Cosmo being a close ally of Tails and the space adventure story for the Tails Adventure game. The gameplay would be something like an action adventure RPG with Tails using his gadgets to take on enemies and bosses.
it would be pretty cool to see the sonic the fighters characters come back in the adventure art style,They were actually planned to be in Heroes IOTL but got cut. ITTL they were still likely cut leaving Team Sonic, Team Rose (Amy, Cream Rouge) and Team Chaotix as 3 playable teams but without Shadow they would either get introduced later or in the GBA title Sonic Battle.
If Shadow's game and 06 gets butterflied away then the franchise's reputation would be much better. However, it would never really dethrone the Genesis/Mega Drive trilogy but still a somewhat respected franchise that while good gets overshadowed by other games on the market like GTA which I think it would still be big ITTL.
i think billy and mandy arent as popular in the 2000s amongst TTLs zillenials as say codename kids next door, but like with earthbound and invader zim, once those kids grow up into teens in the 2010s it might have a cult followingBilly and Mandy probably still comes around. It originally was part of Grim & Evil, which premiered on August24, 2001, which was just a couple of weeks before 9/11. Both The Grim Adventures of Billy and Many and Evil Con Carne will probably still be around.
EDIT: I should note that while the regular run of the show began on August 24, 2001, the pilot premiered on Cartoon Cartoon Fridays on June 9, 2000 as part of the Big Pick event.
sounds pretty coolIn Iwanh TL
There's a Battlefield game called:
Battlefield: Iraq
A sequel of OTL Battlefield: Vietnam
hopefullyITTL will Mascot Platformers make a comeback?
One thing I'm curious, how would pop-culture be like if the scene involves wreckage, trash and papers everywhere and missing posters?
We had several movies with those scenes such as Resident Evil, 28 Days Later (both being filmed pre-9/11 and coming out in 2002), and then later, Dawn of the Dead and The War of the Worlds?
Oh yes disaster films will still be there. But hits people hard in these zombie and alien films is that scenes showing papers and trash flying or strawn in the street will remind people of the Towers. That ending scene in Resident Evil wherein Alice is seen outside an empty Raccoon City with abandoned emergency vehicles everywhere while papers fly in the distance and the road eerily reminds people of how Lower Manhattan was like during and after the towers collapsed. Same for the Missing People Posters scene in 28 Days Later when Jim was exploring London. The War of the Worlds also had those missing posters in the New England ferry scene.I think the great impact of 9/11 was shattering the sense of invulnerability Americans had after the end of the Cold War. A lot of these movies had that sort of theme.
Then again, disaster movies like Volcano were also fairly common around the turn of the century, so I think you might still see disaster films, but ones that more an excuse to dump CGI onto movie audiences.
I highly doubt the Dreamcast would of continued since it ended months before 9/11 so even ITTL Sega still becomes third party.so sonic heroes would be more sonic adventure 2.5 and tails adventure is essentially sonic adventure 3 meets naruto with the meterex plot (HELL YES! this is my dream sonic game! that and a dreamcast era sonic xtreme reboot in the style of adventure 1 with the plot and characters of the archie comics are what i want to see in a sonic game),
the only thing that would make these games better is if it were on the dreamcast
also i wonder if cream the rabbit is still in sonic heroes
maybe shes like what toriel in undertale is as a character that only appears in the tutorial/easy mode (kinda like in sonic advanced)
it would be pretty cool to see the sonic the fighters characters come back in the adventure art style,
after all honey is what got amy rose into lolita fashion after all (which is how i also discovered lolita when i was 14,
because the petticoats looked fluffy like a fox or raccoon tail which added to my furry floof overload aesthetic)
I imagine that Sonic '06 ITTL being more in spirit of the tone as the Adventure Games.Since Shadow is a one-off character and other classic characters reappearing ITTL this would lead to characters like Blaze and Silver being butterflied away along with the Sonic Boom subseries in the 2010s since the franchise’s tone remains consistent since Sonic 3&K being an action adventure series but it never went into grim dark territory leading to a different 06 which might fare better then OTL.
But it would be a bit more lighthearted then OTL. Heck with no 9/11 its visuals might be more cell shaded rather then focusing on realism.I imagine that Sonic '06 ITTL being more in spirit of the tone as the Adventure Games.
Tbh I think that 9/11 made a lot of entertainment more lighthearted, not less, as there was a perception that people wanted simple escapism. So if anything no 9/11 may have seen sonic go full 90s anti-hero with everything that entails.But it would be a bit more lighthearted then OTL. Heck with no 9/11 its visuals might be more cell shaded rather then focusing on realism.
Could we have seen a darker Justice League cartoon along similar lines?Tbh I think that 9/11 made a lot of entertainment more lighthearted, not less, as there was a perception that people wanted simple escapism. So if anything no 9/11 may have seen sonic go full 90s anti-hero with everything that entails.
It is possibleCould we have seen a darker Justice League cartoon along similar lines?
It is possible
2000s already were a decade of doom and gloom in a lot of ways, so it would probably just be a different flavor of it. I have no idea what this 9/11 in 2009 scenario is though so I'm not sure.So the 2000s could've been known as the decade of doom and gloom, and in a world where 9/11 happened in 2009, people in the 2010s would be like "2000s cartoons were so much more mature."
Unlikely, the war on terror which by that point had been dragging on for a decade has a pretty notable impact on pop culture.Let's say Bush against all odds still get reelected in 2004 and everything remains the same as OTL with the 2008 Great Recession and Obama getting elected would the 2010s in terms of pop culture remain the same as OTL?
But what about the Great Recession and the polarizing politics under Obama if 9/11 never happened?Unlikely, the war on terror which by that point had been dragging on for a decade has a pretty notable impact on pop culture.
Eh, it probably depends on what parts of pop culture you're talking about. Some things remain the same and other things are changed or butterflied away completely.Let's say Bush against all odds still get reelected in 2004 and everything remains the same as OTL with the 2008 Great Recession and Obama getting elected would the 2010s in terms of pop culture remain the same as OTL?
Indeed, without September 11th, no War on Terror (at least not one starting in 2001 anyways).Unlikely, the war on terror which by that point had been dragging on for a decade has a pretty notable impact on pop culture.
Well yes that would happen, but all culture builds upon what came previously, and with a different 2000s pop culture would also change.But what about the Great Recession and the polarizing politics under Obama if 9/11 never happened?