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I'd rather be incinerated in a flash, than slowly die of radiation poisoning, and living either 40 km from the centre of London, or in Frankfurt, surrounded by tens of thousands US soldiers, the first option seems likelier.
Care to elaborate? Were books by Sir John Hackett and Shelford Bidwell.
You said you could have started WWIII...He taught me why pepper is put in pepper vodka, and I taught him about winter beer.
The big question is what sets it off. I assume it’s NATO vs Warsaw Pact with China in the Soviet corner, but what triggers a war no one wants?
Horrific. There were a lot of nuclear weapons around and NATO was otherwise very weak.
Hundreds of millions die, massive climate change kills more.
Pretty much. Posters in threads like these scoffing their country will be completely untouched because it's unaligned forget that everything's connected, and at a certain point things will fail or suffer..Well, it doesn't matter who has the better fighters and pilot training if both fighter and pilots have been vaporized into a mushroom cloud.
Large parts of the Southern Hemisphere will survive the exchange, but with as many nukes as there were at that time, even neutrals in the south could have ended up hit. Throw in nuclear winter and the disruption of the supply chains and the resulting famines will be horrible
Well, it doesn't matter who has the better fighters and pilot training if both fighter and pilots have been vaporized into a mushroom cloud.
Large parts of the Southern Hemisphere will survive the exchange, but with as many nukes as there were at that time, even neutrals in the south could have ended up hit. Throw in nuclear winter and the disruption of the supply chains and the resulting famines will be horrible
Well, I never exist. Being born in 1985, my parents either haven't even met or are only just dating, so... not a lot of worry on my end. Their survival is possible, though, as they lived in suburban Vermont at the time - the Soviets probably didn't think Barre worth nuking.
As I said, if our POD is It Goes Hot in the 1970s, I clearly never exist being born in 1985.You'd be just another mutant (not the super-powered type) roaming the wastelands.
I didn't really specify thought it could be ether early 70's or for a more fun experience the late 70s with good old Jimmy Carter as PresidentWhat exact period in the 1970s and do you mean a war with or without nuclear weapons?
What about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Would that be a good POD?Presumably Yom Kippur War goes hot?
I've always found that weird that WW3 usually takes place in the 60s or the 80s and not some other time like the 70s or the 40s with the Berlin Blockade.Me not being born most likely.
I always found the 1960s ore 1980s to be the best period to have World War III for some reason i cannot explain.
True. Dublin, Cork and Shannon (for example) were targeted.Pretty much. Posters in threads like these scoffing their country will be completely untouched because it's unaligned forget that everything's connected, and at a certain point things will fail or suffer..
To say nothing of the fallout from Northern Ireland and Great Britain.True. Dublin, Cork and Shannon (for example) were targeted.
True. Belfast and Derry at least, several weapons.To say nothing of the fallout from Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
It's worth repeating.I've described it before, so apologies to those who have heard the tale before.
1972. Arctic Norway. A Royal Marine learning to ski with the Norwegians. We were trundling along. They were rather better at it than I was - but then, a lot of them could literally ski before they could walk and I was an East End Boy and unused to snow. We trundled through desolate winter forest, and believe me, Arctic Norway is desolate in winter.
In due course, we saw some soldiers also skiing.
"This is where we go back," said the Norwegians.
"Why?"
"Because those are Soviet soldiers."
"What are they doing in Norway?" asked the aggressive Royal Marine.
"Oh, this is the Soviet Union. We're ten, fifteen miles across the border. We always see how far we can get before someone sees us. It's not a problem. We ski much better than they can."
It took me a moment to work out the logical flaw in this point of view. It was cold, OK?
"You can ski better than them. I'm just learning."
"Now is a good time to learn," they said, without a great deal of sympathy.
And that, gentle reader, is how I came to invade the Soviet Union more or less all by myself.
Curiously, the Soviets skied away from us. Apart from one young officer who was struggling as much as I was. He turned out to have been posted here from that well-known ski resort of Sevastapol and he didn't ski very well. He spoke English, which was good. Unfortunately, he had learned his English in Newcastle and spoke with a thick Geordie accent and I couldn't understand a word he said. We ended up having a chat in French, the closest we had to a common language.
He taught me why pepper is put in pepper vodka, and I taught him about winter beer.
Sure, if they accepted significant casualties. The question is why they would do that. The seat of decision is on land: how does this help effect a decision on the ground? Frankly, the answer is "it doesn't", so they wouldn't try.Can NATO use their navy to force through Baltic and Black Sea assuming strategic nukes are not used first